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What can you kill with a SAM-7 ?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    MADE in the USSR: MANPADS! (English subtitles)
    Missile weapon systems started being actively introduced into service with the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union in late-50s - early-60s period. As a result, several types of Anti-Aircraft Missile Systems were developed for anti-aircraft defense of the Ground Forces. A following principle was determined as a rule of thumb for their development: The larger is an Army Formation, the more powerful and the longer range must be the SAM system covering that Formation. And majority of systems accepted for service were self-propelled ones by the way. At the same time, a man portable anti-aircraft missile system was developed for air defense of Motor-Rifle Infantry and Armor Battalions. In short - PZRK (MANPADS). Low flying airplanes and helicopters became main type of targets for PZRK.
    Strela-2 and Igla Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    MANPADS use by jihadist confirmed in Sinai


    Egyptian militants downed helo with Igla-type MANPADS

    Jeremy Binnie, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
    28 January 2014


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    A still taken from a video released by militants show the MANPADS used in the 25 January attack has a similar BCU and dimensions to that of the Igla series. Source: Jamaat Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis
    Contrary to initial reports, the man-portable air defence system (MANPADS) used to shoot down an Egyptian military helicopter on 25 January was not a Strela-2 series (SA-7 'Grail'), but a more sophisticated missile system.

    The Sunni radical group Jamaat Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis released a video on 26 January showing an operative firing a MANPADS at an Mi-8/17 transport helicopter, which then crashes, but the front end of the system had been deliberately blurred in post-production to make it difficult to identify.

    Egyptian sources reported that a 'SAM-7' (a derivative of the SA-7 designation) was used in the attack, which happened near the border with the Gaza Strip and killed five soldiers. The New York Times cited a senior US official as saying the preliminary evidence indicated it was a 9K32 Strela-2.

    read more
    http://www.janes.com/article/33165/egyptian-militants-downed-helo-with-igla-type-manpads#.UukbqdPL_rM.twitter


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    MANPADS in South Sudan in rebel hands

    Seen at the bottom centre in the photo above is a 9K310 Igla-1 (NATO designation: SA-16 Gimlet) man-portable air defence system (MANPADS). The weapons pictured were purportedly captured by soldiers of the Uganda People’s Defence Force (UPDF) stationed in South Sudan to protect key government installations from rebel forces. The weapons were displayed in Bor, the capital of Jonglei state. The 9K310 system was produced in the Soviet Union, and then Russia, and entered service in 1981. Whilst not as capable as the later generation 9K38 (SA-18) and 9K338 (SA-24) MANPADS, the 9K310 system is notably more effective than the earlier, ubiquitous 9K32 and 9K32M (SA-7a and SA-7b, respectively) systems. These include a higher top flight speed, greater firing range, and more sophisticated fuzing (delayed impact and magnetic, as well as grazing) and guidance mechanisms.

    Also pictured above are a variety of small arms and light weapons more commonly seen in the region, including rifles, medium and heavy machine guns, and RPG-7 projectiles. Amongst the latter are pictured two TBG-7 thermobaric projectiles. These were developed in the Soviet Union sometime in the late 1980s, and are designed to disable enemy personnel in urban or mountainous terrain (including enemy combatants in buildings or fortifications) through a combination of heat and overpressure, as well as a secondary fragmentation effect.

    http://rogueadventurer.com/2014/02/01/9k310-manpads-captured-from-rebels-in-south-sudan/
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  • Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭Gott


    FN-6 MANPADS(Chinese made) are appearing in Syria in rebel hands
    Whatever the wider debate about supplying them with Arms
    This is insane given the risk of proliferation and threat to civil aviation
    There where others option for air defense for them which would have negated the risk to civil aviation.
    Qatar needs to be spoken to IMO assuming of course all this is true.

    on the plus side they appear to be pretty crap at shooting things done
    “Most of the FN-6s that we got didn’t work,” he said. He said two of them had exploded as they were fired, killing two rebels and wounding four others."


    New York Times
    By C. J. CHIVERS and ERIC SCHMITT
    Published: August 12, 2013




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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/world/africa/arms-shipments-seen-from-sudan-to-syria-rebels.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0


    Like all Middle Eastern countries, I don't think Qatar gives a f**k about the long term consequences of its actions in the Arab Spring, particularly where American aviation is concerned.

    Not that the west is faultless of course. Did I read somewhere that the US and UK were trying to chase down weapons they gave to the Libyan rebels only to find they'd magically vanished into the desert sands?


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,332 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Gott wrote: »
    Not that the west is faultless of course. Did I read somewhere that the US and UK were trying to chase down weapons they gave to the Libyan rebels only to find they'd magically vanished into the desert sands?
    The main concern seems to be with weapons taken from Libyan government stores.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭whydave


    Well what do you think ......Egypt Air !
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0519/789411-egyptair/


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    whydave wrote: »
    Well what do you think ......Egypt Air !
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0519/789411-egyptair/

    Way out of range for a modest MANPAD.


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