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Vasectomy at 25

  • 29-08-2011 8:06am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭


    A friend of mine had a vasectomy recently at the age of 25. He has 4 kids. He had twins at 18 then had two more.

    Anyone know someone younger than that to have had a vasectomy?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    *<mod snip>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I think your friend has finally learned the age old tale of cause and effect. Four kids at 25? Poor f*cker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    A friend of mine had a vasectomy recently at the age of 25. He has 4 kids. He had twins at 18 then had two more.

    Anyone know someone younger than that to have had a vasectomy?


    Did he squeeze all these kids out of his Japs eye or wha?
    :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    chin_grin wrote: »
    I think your friend has finally learned the age old tale of cause and effect. Four kids at 25? Poor f*cker.

    He doesn't even like his girlfriend, they had a one night stand when they met and she got pregnant. He's basically counting down the days until they're 18 so he can get up and leave. Does his best to avoid the company of his girlfriend any chance he gets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    He doesn't even like his girlfriend, they had a one night stand when they met and she got pregnant. He's basically counting down the days until they're 18 so he can get up and leave. Does his best to avoid the company of his girlfriend any chance he gets.

    Well to say he doesnt like her, he has rode her enough times.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    He doesn't even like his girlfriend, they had a one night stand when they met and she got pregnant. He's basically counting down the days until they're 18 so he can get up and leave. Does his best to avoid the company of his girlfriend any chance he gets.

    Why doesn't he just leave?? That's no way to bring up children... better to be separated parents than parents who hate each others guts...

    Plus, he doesn't seem to have a problem riding her if he went on to have two more kids with her AND is after getting a vasectomy...


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    It's a job for Jeremy Kyle!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    dont be a fool
    wrap your tool


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    I'm 27 and have given serious consideration to getting one as I never want kids. I think the only think that's stopping me is I'm a bit squeamish about the whole thing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    I'm 27 and have given serious consideration to getting one as I never want kids. I think the only think that's stopping me is I'm a bit squeamish about the whole thing...

    I don't think they'll let you get the snip unless you have kids and are a certain age


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Bambi wrote: »
    I don't think they'll let you get the snip unless you have kids and are a certain age

    You have to have counselling sessions and stuff like that... same as tubal ligation for females.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    I'm 27 and have given serious consideration to getting one as I never want kids. I think the only think that's stopping me is I'm a bit squeamish about the whole thing...

    Im fairly sure they wont give you a vasectomy at 27, reason being you don't have any kids right now but could change your mind over the next 10 years. I'm really surprised the op's friend got one at 25, that's the youngest i've ever heard of. He must have plagued his doctor about his mental state of mind,he must have told him he was suicidal or something to that effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    Follow the advise of coco prunty and he should have just tied a knot in his dangler



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Contraception and restraint or major surgery.

    Let me think now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I don't think it should be that hard to get your tubes tied. Maybe there should be a minimum age, but I think 25 or older, you're old enough to have made a decision. I've been considering it for the past 10 years if not more, and I'm certain I don't want children. it seems stupid to have a worry like that hanging over you iwth a missed period when it could easily enough be taken care of.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    Im fairly sure they wont give you a vasectomy at 27, reason being you don't have any kids right now but could change your mind over the next 10 years. I'm really surprised the op's friend got one at 25, that's the youngest i've ever heard of. He must have plagued his doctor about his mental state of mind,he must have told him he was suicidal or something to that effect.

    They were very reluctant to do the operation on him but he got it done in the end after he agreed to counselling etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    Im fairly sure they wont give you a vasectomy at 27, reason being you don't have any kids right now but could change your mind over the next 10 years. I'm really surprised the op's friend got one at 25, that's the youngest i've ever heard of. He must have plagued his doctor about his mental state of mind,he must have told him he was suicidal or something to that effect.

    Is that not age discrimination? At what stage do I get granted the respect for my decision not to have kids. "Oh you might not want kids now at 45 but who knows what you'll want at 55."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    stovelid wrote: »
    Contraception and restraint or major surgery.

    Let me think now.
    It's hardly major surgery, I don't think you're even put to sleep for it, and it's reversible.

    Come to think of it, mandatory vasectomies after for all boys sounds like a good idea to me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭MrFrisp


    No....your not put to sleep for it...

    Just get the local jab for it.....You should be in and out the door in about an hour..

    I had it done 11 years ago..Best move ever......

    It was a case of Me,or the wife having to go through it,,and No way would I let her go through that.

    Peace of mind...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    It's hardly major surgery, I don't think you're even put to sleep for it, and it's reversible.

    Come to think of it, mandatory vasectomies after for all boys sounds like a good idea to me!

    It's not always reversible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭cruiser178


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Is that not age discrimination? At what stage do I get granted the respect for my decision not to have kids. "Oh you might not want kids now at 45 but who knows what you'll want at 55."

    Maybe it is age discrimination, maybe not. I think the problem is, so many people get it done when they think they are fully sure they don't want any more kids only to find a few years later, their relationship has finished and they are with someone new who they want to have kids with.

    I've got a friend of mine she's 32 years of age with only 1 child and under no circumstancess will they tie her tubes til she's 35.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 sweetiee


    I don't think it should be that hard to get your tubes tied. Maybe there should be a minimum age, but I think 25 or older, you're old enough to have made a decision. I've been considering it for the past 10 years if not more, and I'm certain I don't want children. it seems stupid to have a worry like that hanging over you iwth a missed period when it could easily enough be taken care of.

    They won't do the surgery unless you have kids already and past a certain age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    Maybe it is age discrimination, maybe not. I think the problem is, so many people get it done when they think they are fully sure they don't want any more kids only to find a few years later, their relationship has finished and they are with someone new who they want to have kids with.

    I've got a friend of mine she's 32 years of age with only 1 child and under no circumstancess will they tie her tubes til she's 35.

    I'm 24 and I've two children, they won't even entertain the idea with me for at least another ten years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Gilldog


    Bambi wrote: »
    I don't think they'll let you get the snip unless you have kids and are a certain age

    What a ridiculous double standard. this guy can decide to have children at 18 regardless of how responsible he is...but if you decide you don't want children then you have to have children in order to prove that you know you don't want them!! doesn't make sense to me...

    In any case, twins at 18, im surprised this guy didn't skip the country and change his name, never mind going back for more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I'm 26 with 2 kids and can't have anymore kids even if I wanted to.
    My womb causes me so much pain and causes me to be completely debilitated much of the time.
    They won't even consider removing it for me.

    I think it's ridiculous that anyone can bring a life into the world, nomatter what their mental state, physical state, ability, wishes, etc...
    People who just should not be parents can have as many kids as they want.
    Yet we do not have the right to remove the chances of us having kids if we so wish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    cruiser178 wrote: »
    Maybe it is age discrimination, maybe not. I think the problem is, so many people get it done when they think they are fully sure they don't want any more kids only to find a few years later, their relationship has finished and they are with someone new who they want to have kids with.

    I've got a friend of mine she's 32 years of age with only 1 child and under no circumstancess will they tie her tubes til she's 35.

    I can't see how it's not discriminating; though I won't be going through the courts anytime soon to force one through. I kind of understand if someone doesn't want anymore kids as they may change their mind if they end up in a new relationship but there are those of us out there who will never want kids and would be pretty annoyed if refused the surgery on the sole grounds that "ah sure what would you know at your age".
    It's not like I've given it a weekend's drunken thought, I've weighed up my feelings on the subject for a long time in my early twenties and made a decision that for me the cons of having a child way outweigh the pros, it's not even a close call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    The withdrawal method is your only man.












    On a serious note, wrap that bad boy up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    4 kids at 25.... uuuugh... I don't even want to be responsible for an animal at 25, nevermind kids...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    If he is a catholic then he most certainly should not get a vasectomy. He should use up all the sperm he has in him for procreation. It is God's will:



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Personally I think anyone who has a child before 25, and doesn't have the financial capability to take care it, is an idiot. You should have used contraception. We're all human (I hope), we should all have the mental capacity to plan ahead. If you want children, create an adequate financial base so that you can feed them and give them a decent education in the future. Why should society have sympathy on someone who doesn't use the head, as they say "It's your baby". Sorry if I'm offending some people by speaking so bluntly on the matter but it's just my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I know someone who recently got her tubes tied at the grand old age of 26.... after having her fifth child! It was difficult enough for them to agree to do it.

    I remember my mam telling me that she had to have my dad's permission for the hospital to tie her tubes after baby number 6. They tried to talk her out of it, and it was days after my brother's birth when she actually found out it was done. They were mad secretive about it. That was only 24 yrs ago!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Personally I think anyone who has a child before 25, and doesn't have the financial capability to take care it, is an idiot. You should have used contraception. We're all human (I hope), we should all have the mental capacity to plan ahead. If you want children, create an adequate financial base so that you can feed them and give them a decent education in the future. Why should society have sympathy on someone who doesn't use the head, as they say "It's your baby". Sorry if I'm offending some people by speaking so bluntly on the matter but it's just my opinion.

    The lad I mentioned was working and had the money to look after the babies at 18.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    The lad I mentioned was working and had the money to look after the babies at 18.

    At 18? Get up out of that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    At 18? Get up out of that.

    Yea, he was working as a plumber since 15 years old. The mother works as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Gilldog


    The lad I mentioned was working and had the money to look after the babies at 18.

    Sure at 18 he's only stopped being a child himself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Yea, he was working as a plumber since 15 years old. The mother works as well.

    I've known a few people who've had children fairly early. One person I know had a child at 19 and was in a similar situation, he had been working full time for a number of year. However, he still wasn't able to cope by the time the child reached 3 y/o and started school. He got assistance from his own parents.

    Your friend had twins at 18, which would have been be double the pressure. I find he hard to believe that he wasn't or isn't at present struggling to take care of the 4 children he has. I also doubt that your friend was mature enough at age 18 to have children, or anyone at that age for that matter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I've known a few people who've had children fairly early. One person I know had a child at 19 and was in a similar situation, he had been working full time for a number of year. However, he still wasn't able to cope by the time the child reached 3 y/o and started school. He got assistance from his own parents.

    Your friend had twins at 18, which would have been be double the pressure. I find he hard to believe that he wasn't or isn't at present struggling to take care of the 4 children he has. I also doubt that your friend was mature enough at age 18 to have children, or anyone at that age for that matter.

    I don't know whether he was getting money from parents, I know money is tight but they get by. I didn't know him when he was 18 so don't know how mature he was back then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    I don't know whether he was getting money from parents, I know money is tight but they get by. I didn't know him when he was 18 so don't know how mature he was back then.

    I say we can make a fair few assumptions on how mature he was ... the fact that he didn't use contraception would be one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Fails in 1 out of every 2000 procedures. Just saying :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    My daughter was born when i was 21 and i worked two jobs to support her,having children at a young age makes you grow up very fast,well it did for me anyway


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    I say we can make a fair few assumptions on how mature he was ... the fact that he didn't use contraception would be one.


    Maybe he used contraception but it failed. I'll ask him and find out. All sorts of people don't use contracrption who otherwise you'd never say they were immature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    Would be great if it was a five minute job and easily reversible. Then every teenager could have it done and reversed when they decided they actually wanted to start a family. It would solve a hell of a lot of problems in society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Maybe he used contraception but it failed. I'll ask him and find out. All sorts of people don't use contracrption who otherwise you'd never say they were immature.

    Hmmm, he has 4 children. Must have failed a lot for him ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    I do DIY vasectomys for cheap no counciling requird. Two bricks and a sharp pain but its worth it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    Would be great if it was a five minute job and easily reversible. Then every teenager could have it done and reversed when they decided they actually wanted to start a family. It would solve a hell of a lot of problems in society.

    What about the dramatic rise in STIs and HIV as people won't use protection? The British govenment realised a decade ago the economic cost of an STI is very much greater than a child born and parents on benefits.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Hmmm, he has 4 children. Must have failed a lot for him ....

    Or maybe the girlfriend decides to trick him and not take her pill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Or maybe the girlfriend decides to trick him and not take her pill.

    Is that unmarried mother syndrome?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    It's hardly major surgery, I don't think you're even put to sleep for it, and it's reversible.

    You could be describing contraception there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    smk89 wrote: »
    What about the dramatic rise in STIs and HIV as people won't use protection? The British govenment realised a decade ago the economic cost of an STI is very much greater than a child born and parents on benefits.


    They'll soon learn to cover up after a dose of knob rot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Is that unmarried mother syndrome?

    I don't know the details of what went on in their relationship so I won't assume anything.


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