Is it illegal to kill yourself?

dillo2k10

Is it illegal to kill yourself? How could you be punished?

Should it be illegal?
Suicide is not funny. Don't make jokes!

Sheeps

suicide is funny if you do it in a clown costume

stupidusername

oh dear.

i'd imagine technically it is, and maybe that's why if you attempt it and survive you've no choice but to be placed in psychiatric care.

wolf moon

Sheeps wrote: »

suicide is funny if you do it in a clown costume

Yeah. Very fukin funny.

Sticjones

Is it illegal to kill yourself?

Only one way to find out !

Chuck Stone

I think it was considered a sin by the RCC. Thus the word 'committing' suicide. No?

LETHAL LADY

I would imagine it would be hard to prosecute the deceased.

Bonavox

Sheeps wrote: »

suicide is funny if you do it in a clown costume

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Sky King

AFAIK it was but no longer is

(illegal)

Pretty hard to punish someone for it

DEFTLEFTHAND

Up to 1993 it was considered an illegal act in Ireland.

Killer Pigeon

Why should it? If someone wishes to voluntarily end their own life I don't understand why it should be illegal. A person should have full control of their own lives.

locked_out

Why would it be illegal? Apart from depriving the state of your taxes. Ultimately it's your life, your choice.

RachaelVO

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Why should it? If someone wishes to voluntarily end their own life I don't understand why it should be illegal. A person should have full control of their own lives.

Well yes and no! If someone is terminally ill yes, they should control how they die.

If someone is mentally ill and want to commit suicide that's a whole other ball game.

Chuck Stone

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Why should it? If someone wishes to voluntarily end their own life I don't understand why it should be illegal. A person should have full control of their own lives.

Would you apply that freedom to a 17 year old who just broke up with his/her BF/GF of 3 weeks?

It's not so simple imo.

Sticjones

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Would you apply that freedom to a 17 year old who just broke up with his/her BF/GF of 3 weeks?

It's not so simple imo.

I highly doubt the legality of suicide would stop someone in that state of mind.

milehip1

locked_out wrote: »

Ultimately it's your life

Ultimately being the operative word

Mickjg

If someone survived a suicide attempt I believe they could be charged for attempted murder. Regardless of the fact that the person was trying to kill themselves they still tried to take a human life which is unlawful.

Laws have since been changed. You can't be charged for attempted suicide but you can be charged for assisting suicide.

leggo

It can't be.

Because if you commit suicide...you are dead.

I wonder if attempting suicide is illegal though?

wolf moon

Sticjones wrote: »

I highly doubt the legality of suicide would stop someone in that state of mind.

And thats the key, they need help not a fukin rope.
A sane person wouldn't do it.

locked_out

stupidusername wrote: »

oh dear.

if you attempt it and survive you've no choice but to be placed in psychiatric care.

I would imagine anyone who does not carry the act out properly does not actually wish to die. Taking a load of pills or whatever is NOT the way to do it. Someone who is terminally ill should have the right to end their lives. The Psychiatric Witchdoctors should have no right to deprive you of your fundamental rights.

rorymcgrory

RachaelVO wrote: »

Well yes and no! If someone is terminally ill yes, they should control how they die.

If someone is mentally ill and want to commit suicide that's a whole other ball game.

So if someone has cancer they can blow their face off, yet if someone has depression they have to play sports?

locked_out

Sticjones wrote: »

I highly doubt the legality of suicide would stop someone in that state of mind.

Suicide can be a rational choice.

Asphyxia

Not sure if it's illegal but it is a sin!

hatrickpatrick

Attempted suicide: Punishable by death penalty.

leggo

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Attempted suicide: Punishable by death penalty.

Had to massively resist the urge to post that one. I'm glad somebody equally soulless did, though.

I mean...eh...it's not funny dude! Grow up!

mikemac

On your own in your bedroom, no

Driving your car onto a train track and you die while derailing a train, well that's seriously wrong
Happened in England a few years ago

stevenmu

I believe the primary reason for suicide being illegal was to allow police to arrest and detain someone who was attempting/attempted suicide for their own protection.

Pherekydes

Asphyxia wrote: »

Not sure if it's illegal but it is a sin!

Can you define 'sin'?

previous user

Suicide by Cop, thats the way for me. :pac:

Killer Pigeon

RachaelVO wrote: »

Well yes and no! If someone is terminally ill yes, they should control how they die.

If someone is mentally ill and want to commit suicide that's a whole other ball game.

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Would you apply that freedom to a 17 year old who just broke up with his/her BF/GF of 3 weeks?

It's not so simple imo.

Suicide should in no way be illegal. There should be support provided to allow individual to reassess their lives which will allow the individual to think more rationally. However, at the end of the day, it should be up to the individual whether or not they wish to continue their life. After-all it's there life, not yours. So I still uphold my logic in this regard.

wolf moon

Pherekydes wrote: »

Can you define 'sin'?

Please....

RachaelVO

rorymcgrory wrote: »

So if someone has cancer they can blow their face off, yet if someone has depression they have to play sports?

So cancer is an automatic death sentence?

If you are in the final stages of dying with cancer/ms or whatever terminal disease it is you have, and want to be able die before you loose all your dignity, well yeah, if you choose to die, it SHOULD be up to you how you die!

If you're depressed, it's not a terminal illness, there is help out there. Now granted in Ireland it's can be a bit hit and miss, but at the end of the day committing suicide is the choice of someone who is physically healthy. Choosing how you die if your terminally ill is totally different!

Sheeps

homosexuality is a sin if that helps

starbelgrade

A few years ago I got arrested for killing myself.

locked_out

starbelgrade wrote: »

A few years ago I got arrested for killing myself.

You're still here?

RachaelVO

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Suicide should in no way be illegal. There should be support provided to allow individual to reassess their lives which will allow the individual to think more rationally. However, at the end of the day, it should be up to the individual whether or not they wish to continue their life. After-all it's there life, not yours. So I still uphold my logic in this regard.

I suppose there is logic in what you're saying, but it seems to me, (and I have very close family members who have tried to do it, now thankfully they are well on the road to recovery, and doing great) that if it was something that only impacted you, that's fine, but it doesn't. It can tear families apart, so although yes, I do see your logic, I think it's deeply flawed!

Arnold Layne

Probably rose after three days,

starbelgrade

RachaelVO wrote: »

Choosing how you die if your terminally ill is totally different!

No it's not.

If someone wants to take their own life - for whatever reason - they should be free to do so.

Pherekydes

Sheeps wrote: »

homosexuality is a sin if that helps

Says who?


Define 'sin'!

And no, it doesn't help.

Son Of A Vidic

Pherekydes wrote: »

Can you define 'sin'?

According to Rome, I think it's when a priest has no tendencies towards pedophilia.

RachaelVO

starbelgrade wrote: »

No it's not.

If someone wants to take their own life - for whatever reason - they should be free to do so.

NOPE!

Chuck Stone

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Suicide should in no way be illegal. There should be support provided to allow individual to reassess their lives which will allow the individual to think more rationally. However, at the end of the day, it should be up to the individual whether or not they wish to continue their life. After-all it's there life, not yours. So I still uphold my logic in this regard.

Would you advocate using force to prevent someone from taking his life? Say for example the 17 yr old who just broke up with his GF of two weeks?

Btw I'm not having a go at you I'm just teasing things out as much for my own thinking on the subject.

Buceph

locked_out wrote: »

You're still here?

He got better.

barr32

Asphyxia wrote: »

Not sure if it's illegal but it is a sin!

so what its a sin to lie

Chuck Stone

starbelgrade wrote: »

No it's not.

If someone wants to take their own life - for whatever reason - they should be free to do so.

I doubt you'd maintain that view if your 17 year old brother/sis/child came to you and said they'd had enough.

Sheeps

Pherekydes wrote: »

Says who?


Define 'sin'!

And no, it doesn't help.

an act that doesn't please god

if you have sex with a member of the same sex you will not end up in heaven

starbelgrade

Sheeps wrote: »

an act that doesn't please god

if you have sex with a member of the same sex you will not end up in heaven

That depends how good the sex is.

Buceph

Sheeps wrote: »

if you have sex with a member of the same sex you will not end up in heaven

If you live your life according to the Bible you will also not end up in heaven.

starbelgrade

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I doubt you'd maintain that view if your 17 year old brother/sis/child came to you and said they'd had enough.

If that happened, I would do everything I could to help them & persuade them not to - and more than likely they wouldn't, as most teenagers who have suicidal thoughts, never follow them through.

However, ultimately if they did take their own life, that would be entirely their choice.

Sheeps

Buceph wrote: »

If you live your life according to the Bible you will also not end up in heaven.

jesus died for our sins so everyone ends up in heaven regardless of who you are or what you've done (apart from homosexuals)

OneArt

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

I would imagine it would be hard to prosecute the deceased.

Yes. Not impossible, just hard.