Is there a staircase inside the Wellington Monument in the Phoenix Park?

BeerNut · 15-09-2011 08:45PM

Stripey Cat wrote: »

Right.

Right. The completion consisted of adding the bronze reliefs to the outside. The obelisk, and any stairs which may have been inside it, was finished in 1820.

Christine Casey wrote:

The contract was awarded to Cockburn & Williams in 1817 and construction of the stepped base, pedestal, obelisk and statue pedestals was completed

Sorry, what was that Christine?

Christine Casey wrote:

completed

Pardon?

Christine Casey wrote:

completed

Thanks, go on

Christine Casey wrote:

in 1820,

When, sorry?

Christine Casey wrote:

1820,

Mmm hmm

Christine Casey wrote:

albeit some 16ft (4.9 metres) shorter than intended. The sheer size of the monument (220ft (67 metres) from base to apex and 120ft (27.4 metres) square at base) ensured that most of the £20,000 rasied was spent on the masonary core and granite ashlar facing, leaving little or nothing for the proposed statues and bronze bas-reliefs on three sides of the pedestal. The names of Wellington's previous victories are fixed to each face of the obelisk, the letters reportedly cast from two captured cannon. In 1829, when Catholic Emancipation was carried during Wellington's term as Prime Minister, the testimonial fund was revived, but it was not until after his death that work resumed (1857), and in 1861 the pedestal bas reliefs by J.R. Kirk, Thomas Farrell and John Hogan (executed by John Valentine Hogan) were finally unveiled.

Right. And then they carved the staircase out with a big bendy corkscrew?

Christine Casey wrote:

...

(quotes from Casey, Dublin: the city within the Grand and Royal Canals and the Circular Road, 2005, p.308)

Esel · 17-09-2011 07:08AM

BeerNut wrote: »

Right.

Christine Casey wrote:

albeit some 16ft (4.9 metres) shorter than intended. The sheer size of the monument (220ft (67 metres) from base to apex and 120ft (27.4 metres) square at base) ensured that most of the £20,000 rasied was spent on the masonary core and granite ashlar facing, leaving little or nothing for the proposed statues and bronze bas-reliefs on three sides of the pedestal. The names of Wellington's previous victories are fixed to each face of the obelisk, the letters reportedly cast from two captured cannon. In 1829, when Catholic Emancipation was carried during Wellington's term as Prime Minister, the testimonial fund was revived, but it was not until after his death that work resumed (1857), and in 1861 the pedestal bas reliefs by J.R. Kirk, Thomas Farrell and John Hogan (executed by John Valentine Hogan) were finally unveiled.

(quotes from Casey, Dublin: the city within the Grand and Royal Canals and the Circular Road, 2005, p.308)

Who edited this publication?

120ft (27.4 metres) [actually 36.6 metres]

rasied

masonary

Such sloppiness in a single paragraph (if the above quote was in fact from a single paragraph) does not inspire confidence.

Mellor · 17-09-2011 08:26AM

Esel wrote: »

Who edited this publication?

120ft (27.4 metres) [actually 36.6 metres]

rasied

masonary

Such sloppiness in a single paragraph (if the above quote was in fact from a single paragraph) does not inspire confidence.

27.4 is obviously a typo. Hardly uncommon.

The other two spelling mistakes don't exist. Maybe you should read the source before you comment.

Esel · 17-09-2011 08:32AM

Mellor wrote: »

27.4 is obviously a typo. Hardly uncommon..

Typo by Beernut or the author quoted? And 'obviously' a typo?

Mellor wrote: »

The other two spelling mistakes don't exist. Maybe you should read the source before you comment.

A quote is a quote. For all I knew, the text quoted was copied and pasted from an online source.

Maybe you should take the rebar out of your arse.

Mellor · 17-09-2011 09:34AM

Esel wrote: »

Typo by Beernut or the author quoted? And 'obviously' a typo?

by the author/editor.
It's a pretty well regarded book on irish historically.

A quote is a quote. For all I knew, the text quoted was copied and pasted from an online source.

Maybe you should take the rebar out of your arse.

The link to the book was provided two or three times. It's on online scan from the book. if you read it you'll see it the words were spelled correctly.

As for you last comment. Don't think there's any need for that.
Would expect better from a mod.

BeerNut · 18-09-2011 08:37PM

Esel wrote: »

Who edited this publication?

I transcribed it. Quite poorly, as it turns out -- both typos are mine and do not appear in the book. I apologise for not meeting the normally high standards of spelling and grammar found throughout Boards.ie.

It will not happen agian.

Stripey Cat · 18-09-2011 11:19PM

It is perfectly understandable that you transcribed it poorly. It must be quite exciting being so sarcastic to someone asking a reasonable question about the wisdom of using books published before the completion of a structure (one of which describes a fictional statue as if it was there) as a source of information about it. You were probably jiggling up and down on your chair while you were writing.

I accept your apology.

Mellor · 20-09-2011 05:30AM

Stripey Cat wrote: »

It is perfectly understandable that you transcribed it poorly. It must be quite exciting being so sarcastic to someone asking a reasonable question about the wisdom of using books published before the completion of a structure (one of which describes a fictional statue as if it was there) as a source of information about it. You were probably jiggling up and down on your chair while you were writing.

I accept your apology.

The book was publish in the last 10 years?

The other a source was describing the design. I think discussing this subject is a bit beyond you capabilities if you struggle so much to follow the previous posts.