Sexual anarchy: The Kinsey legacy

gimmebroadband

When you legalise sodomy, whats' the next step - paedophelia!

"On August 17, 2011, more than 50 activists attended a conference for “minor-attracted adults,” i.e., pedophiles, which sought to eliminate the “stigma” attached to pedophilia and to redefine pedophilia as a normal “sexual orientation.” The United States Department of Justice has determined that 64 percent of forcible sodomy victims are boys under the age of 12 and that 58,200 children were kidnapped by non-family members in 1999."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-anarchy-the-kinsey-legacy

smokingman

Just so you know, there is a difference between rape and sex between consenting adults...

gimmebroadband

Just so you know this is about kids, not consenting adults!

smokingman

You are no doubt going to try to connect homosexuality with child rape so thought I'd get in there first.

Catholicism is, I suppose, an authority on child rape though so go ahead.

5uspect

How old or consenting was the Virgin Mary...

gimmebroadband

smokingman wrote: »

You are no doubt going to try to connect homosexuality with child rape so thought I'd get in there first.
Catholicism is, I suppose, an authority on child rape though so go ahead.

I'm not trying to do anything of the sort! I'm suggesting that when laws legalise sodomy, the next thing is that they're trying to legalise paedophilia, which is despicable - where does society draw the line?

This thread is not about priests, so do us a favour and stay on topic!

gimmebroadband

5uspect wrote: »

How old or consenting was the Virgin Mary...

She conceived by the Holy Spirit, not man, and there was no sex involved!

fontanalis

God had to invent the clitoris for Kinsey to find it.

Insect Overlord

gimmebroadband wrote: »

I'm not trying to do anything of the sort! I'm suggesting that when laws legalise sodomy, the next thing is that they're trying to legalise paedophilia, which is despicable - where does society draw the line?

And that's exactly why your thread is doomed to fail. The idea is nonsense.

Laisurg

gimmebroadband wrote: »

When you legalise sodomy, whats' the next step - paedophelia!

"On August 17, 2011, more than 50 activists attended a conference for “minor-attracted adults,” i.e., pedophiles, which sought to eliminate the “stigma” attached to pedophilia and to redefine pedophilia as a normal “sexual orientation.” The United States Department of Justice has determined that 64 percent of forcible sodomy victims are boys under the age of 12 and that 58,200 children were kidnapped by non-family members in 1999."

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-anarchy-the-kinsey-legacy

This is absolutely ridiculous, so you think homosexuality should be illegal again then?

kisaragi

gimmebroadband wrote: »

I'm not trying to do anything of the sort! I'm suggesting that when laws legalise sodomy, the next thing is that they're trying to legalise paedophilia, which is despicable - where does society draw the line?

This thread is not about priests, so do us a favour and stay on topic!

Homosexuality is legal in plenty of societies all around the world, can you name one where it has ever "led" to the subsequent legalisation of paedophilia.

Age of consent in the Vatican is 14 by the way - which while not technically paedophilia seems very low.

5uspect

gimmebroadband wrote: »

She conceived by the Holy Spirit, not man, and there was no sex involved!

But you agree that she was what we would consider a child?

28064212

gimmebroadband wrote: »

I'm not trying to do anything of the sort! I'm suggesting that when laws legalise sodomy, the next thing is that they're trying to legalise paedophilia, which is despicable - where does society draw the line?

This thread is not about priests, so do us a favour and stay on topic!

You're totally right, it's a disgrace. But you don't go back far enough. Sodomy was the next thing after oral, oral was the next thing after missionary, missionary was the next thing after 'heavy petting', petting was the next thing after kissing. So you heard it here first folks, if you support legalised kissing, you're supporting paedophilia

Zombrex

gimmebroadband wrote: »

I'm suggesting that when laws legalise sodomy, the next thing is that they're trying to legalise paedophilia, which is despicable - where does society draw the line?

Oh don't be so silly.

The line is where it always was. A heterosexual can't have sex with a child so why would society legalize a homosexual having sex with a child? Sexual consent laws have always been based on the notion of knowing consent. Legalization of homosexuality has nothing to do with changing that.

Moronic :rolleyes:

PDN

gimmebroadband wrote: »

This thread is not about priests, so do us a favour and stay on topic!

To be honest, you set yourself up for it by posting nonsense linking homosexuality and paedophilia.

JimiTime

PDN wrote: »

To be honest, you set yourself up for it by posting nonsense linking homosexuality and paedophilia.

He did nothing of the sort. You may consider what he posted to be nonsense, but in fairness, he should not have to face, 'yeah but priests are pedos' jibes anytime he posts about sexual matters.

gimmebroadband

PDN wrote: »

To be honest, you set yourself up for it by posting nonsense linking homosexuality and paedophilia.

How did I link up both of them???? I was suggesting that once sodomy was legalised, then anything goes after that - I was not suggesting that they were interlinked, I metioned sodomy as an example! From a Christian perspective both are WRONG!!!

28064212

gimmebroadband wrote: »

How did I link up both of them???? I was suggesting that once sodomy was legalised, then anything goes after that - I was not suggesting that they were interlinked!

Which is as valid as saying "once cars were legalised, sodomy (and by extension, paedophilia) was inevitable"

gimmebroadband

28064212 wrote: »

Which is as valid as saying "once cars were legalised, sodomy (and by extension, paedophilia) was inevitable"

What a load of drivel! What has this to do with CHRISTIANITY!!!

Mr. Incognito

How did I link up both of them???? I was suggesting that once sodomy was legalised, then anything goes after that - I was not suggesting that they were interlinked!

That is the worst attempt at logic I have ever seen.

To put that in context you are saying that once A Happens. B Will Happen but A and B are not interlinked.

Even though your whole thread is that because A Happened B is going to Happen.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with Paedophilia.

They are not linked.

Now your argument that both are sexual orientations is ridiculous.

One is a sexual orientation. The other is a sexual deviency triggered, usually by abuse or another factor.

There is a thing in society- you might have heard of it- It's called the Law. It is guided by the moral majority.

The moral majority think there is nothing wrong with what consentual adults do in their own home.

They DO NOT think that it is acceptible to have sex with children, consentual (if it can even be called that :rolleyes:) or not.

That is never going to change. So I would advise you to go back to the start of chicken licken and go sit under a tree and stop telling us the Sky is falling down.

The reason the Catholic Church is in decline is that it lost all moral authority when it covered up abuse of children and the moral majority choose not to support such an institution regardless of the strength of their faith in the message. The Institutions have failed.

Dear God - It's like explaining something to a child. Which is ironic.

gimmebroadband

The fact is that those people in the article I linked to are even contemplating such a thing, which is reprehensible, and I thought it worth posting here!

BTW, If I remember correctly David Norris wants the age of consent lowered!

gimmebroadband

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

That is the worst attempt at logic I have ever seen.

To put that in context you are saying that once A Happens. B Will Happen but A and B are not interlinked.

Even though your whole thread is that because A Happened B is going to Happen.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with Paedophilia.

They are not linked.

Now your argument that both are sexual orientations is ridiculous.

One is a sexual orientation. The other is a sexual deviency triggered, usually by abuse or another factor.

There is a thing in society- you might have heard of it- It's called the Law. It is guided by the moral majority.

The moral majority think there is nothing wrong with what consentual adults do in their own home.

They DO NOT think that it is acceptible to have sex with children, consentual (if it can even be called that :rolleyes:) or not.

That is never going to change. So I would advise you to go back to the start of chicken licken and go sit under a tree and stop telling us the Sky is falling down.

Dear God - It's like explaining something to a child. Which is ironic.

I mentioned sodomy not Homosexuality, being homosexual isn't wicked, sodomy is! Christian forum and all that!!!

Links234

gimmebroadband wrote: »

How did I link up both of them???? I was suggesting that once sodomy was legalised, then anything goes after that - I was not suggesting that they were interlinked, I metioned sodomy as an example! From a Christian perspective both are WRONG!!!

Sodomy is defined as oral or anal copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex. are you saying that these sex acts should be illegal between two consenting adults? and in what way does the legality of them have anything to do with the possibility of legalizing pedophilia?

Mr. Incognito

gimmebroadband wrote: »

I mentioned sodomy not Homosexuality, being homosexual isn't wicked, sodomy is! Christian forum and all that!!!

LOL!!!

Okay then....................why don't you forgive them?

Christian Forum and all that.

Wicked my Hole. (Pun- NICE!) Rigeous bull****.

You keep moving the goalposts and not even adressing the points raised by many posters here.

gimmebroadband

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

LOL!!!

Okay then....................why don't you forgive them?

Christian Forum and all that.

Wicked my Hole. Rigeous bull****.

You keep moving the goalposts and not even adressing the points raised by many posters here.

If it bothers you then why are you posting in a Christian Forum, only God forgives sins!

28064212

gimmebroadband wrote: »

28064212 wrote: »

Which is as valid as saying "once cars were legalised, sodomy (and by extension, paedophilia) was inevitable"

What a load of drivel! What has this to do with CHRISTIANITY!!!

Ehhh.......

gimmebroadband wrote: »

When you legalise sodomy, whats' the next step - paedophelia!

What a load of drivel! What has this to do with CHRISTIANITY!!!

Make your mind up, are you saying sodomy is linked to paedophilia or not? If you're saying it's not, then the legal status of cars have as much to do paedophilia as the legal status of sodomy. If you're saying it is, you're talking drivel.

Mr. Incognito

gimmebroadband wrote: »

If it bothers you then why are you posting in a Christian Forum, only God forgives sins!

Only God forgives Sins?

wow- that is possibly the most unchristian thing I have ever heard. So the rest of the "christians" can go around tut tuting and judging because that's okay?

Says who? Maybe God is a 9 foot lizard who spends his day riding go karts.

There's one thing to having faith and another thing to use it as a stick to beat people with.

Basically you are being a bigot and hiding behind religion to justify it.

Pretty much the problem I have with all organised religions summed up right there

gimmebroadband

Links234 wrote: »

Sodomy is defined as oral or anal copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex. are you saying that these sex acts should be illegal between two consenting adults? and in what way does the legality of them have anything to do with the possibility of legalizing pedophilia?[/QUOTE

Still doesn't make it morally right! It's illegal to kill a human being, but they got around that one by allowing them to be legally killed in the womb before it's born!

gimmebroadband

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Only God forgives Sins?

wow- that is possibly the most unchristian thing I have ever heard. So the rest of the "christians" can go around tut tuting and judging because that's okay?

Says who? Maybe God is a 9 foot lizard who spends his day riding go karts.

There's one thing to having faith and another thing to use it as a stick to beat people with.

Basically you are being a bigot and hiding behind religion to justify it.

Pretty much the problem I have with all organised religions summed up right there

Then why post here then if it bothers you that much - pretty much why I don't post in the atheist forum because I don't agree with them!!

The bible spoke of this age, when people accepts evil as good!

Mr. Incognito

So in other words you never engage in discussion with anyone that challenges your faith or opinions?

How did you even know you have any?

Instead of debating the points you have sought to derail this thread with buzzwords like only god forgives and now you are bringing in abortion?

I think I shall leave you to it. No point discussing things with anyone whose idea of a debate is to put their fingers in their ears and go na na na

ApeXaviour

Obvious troll is obvious.

http://www.team9000.net/attachments/do-not-feed-the-trolls-png.51728/

Links234

gimmebroadband wrote: »

Still doesn't make it morally right! It's illegal to kill a human being, but they got around that one by allowing them to be legally killed in the womb before it's born!

so anal or oral sex is morally wrong?

there's plenty of legal ways to kill human beings, in war, in some countries execution is a means of punishment... none of this baloney has anything to do with what links sodomy to pedophilia, which is a point you're dancing around faster than if you were under hot coals.

antiskeptic

gimmebroadband wrote: »

How did I link up both of them???? I was suggesting that once sodomy was legalised, then anything goes after that - I was not suggesting that they were interlinked, I metioned sodomy as an example! From a Christian perspective both are WRONG!!!

Why did you draw the point of no return at sodomy? Didn't they legalise sex between unmarried woman/en and man/men long before they legalised sodomy?

What else do you expect "them" to do anyway? Haven't you heard that the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one? You sound like you're surprised that the world slides into depravity. Or that you would expect the world to do much different than it does.

JimiTime

If I'm not mistaken, the correlation being drawn in the OP is that once one sexual perversion is legitimised and considered acceptable, then theres probably more on the way.

The guy who's attracted to objects, the guy who likes getting whipped and spat on, the guy who's attracted to kids, the guy who wants to marry his horse etc.

If there is no Normal sexual practice, then there is no abnormal sexual practice. All that there are are legal and illegal sexual practice. So it becomes about 'Well is there any harm'. So the only hurdle in the way of sexual perversion, is the issue of consent. Now when I see the sophistry involved in people being convinced that there is nothing wrong with killing our unborn children (No consent required there neither btw), then I don't hold out that this issue of consent of minors wont be 'overcome' unfortunately.

Monty.

antiskeptic wrote: »

Why did you draw the point of no return at sodomy? Didn't they legalise sex between unmarried woman/en and man/men long before they legalised sodomy?

What else do you expect "them" to do anyway? Haven't you heard that the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one? You sound like you're surprised that the world slides into depravity. Or that you would expect the world to do much different than it does.

This is the crux of the matter, modern Sodom and Gomorrah, but I think what he is getting at, is that Christians should never cease to refuse to condone sodomy and the tricks of trying to normalise it, i.e. trying to "build" marriage and child adoption around sodomy.

We've also recently seen some well known political sodomites in Ireland very publically try to condone the lowering of the age of consent, and sophistry is used to try and disguise it and dress up their lust of sodomy at every opportunity.

CerebralCortex

JimiTime wrote: »

If I'm not mistaken, the correlation being drawn in the OP is that once one sexual perversion is legitimised and considered acceptable, then theres probably more on the way.

The guy who's attracted to objects, the guy who likes getting whipped and spat on, the guy who's attracted to kids, the guy who wants to marry his horse etc.

If there is no Normal sexual practice, then there is no abnormal sexual practice. All that there are are legal and illegal sexual practice. So it becomes about 'Well is there any harm'. So the only hurdle in the way of sexual perversion, is the issue of consent. Now when I see the sophistry involved in people being convinced that there is nothing wrong with killing our unborn children (No consent required there neither btw), then I don't hold out that this issue of consent of minors wont be 'overcome' unfortunately.

Wow!

mikom

gimmebroadband wrote: »

The United States Department of Justice has determined that 64 percent of forcible sodomy victims are boys under the age of 12 and that 58,200 children were kidnapped by non-family members in 1999."

That's a lotta priests...

Question for the OP.
Should a man get aroused whilst looking at his wifes rear end?

Monty.

mikom wrote: »

That's a lotta priests...

Who said they were priests ?

mikom wrote: »

Should a man get aroused whilst looking at his wifes rear end?

Of course, but not her sh1thole.

mikom

Monty. wrote: »

Who said they were priests ?



Of course, but not her sh1thole.

The muscles around her sh1thole are ok so...... but.... but.... whats next after that step?