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'Should of' v. 'Should have': which is correct?

  • 23-08-2011 8:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    It's time for an AH poll on this as both versions appear to be widely used here.

    I've always said 'should have' - e.g. 'I should have done that' - but the more I read AH the more I realise I could, possibly, be incorrect.

    So, denizens of Afterhours: which is correct?

    'Should of' v. 'Should have': which is correct? 9 votes

    Should of - e.g. I should of done that
    0%
    Should have - e.g. I should have done that
    100%
    Duggy747stovelidKriegCelly SmuntWolf ClubTimeToShineVicxasdeepertherootsPaarse Krokodil 9 votes


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  • Subscribers Posts: 16,617 ✭✭✭✭copacetic


    Shoulda coulda woulda


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brooke Poor Sportsman


    IT'S 'SHOULD HAVE'

    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    bluewolf wrote: »
    IT'S 'SHOULD HAVE'

    :mad:

    I knew you'd be in like a flash! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon



    > Primary School Forum


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Should have.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Should have, I think people use 'should of' instead of should've because erm, it sounds like 'should of'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Should have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    Shuddup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    How is this a real question?

    "Should of" makes no grammatical sense whatsoever. "of" is not a verb.
    "Should" is the imperfect, and the imperfect can only be applied to a verb.

    "I should have done" is the past imperfect of "I do". The past tense, technically speaking, is "I have done", then you add the imperfect, "I should have done."

    Where the hell does "of" come into this? :confused:


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brooke Poor Sportsman



    Where the hell does "of" come into this? :confused:

    Lazy speech translating into confused typing

    same reason you see 'i was seen this girl' and 'she was been stupid'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Lazy speech translating into confused typing

    same reason you see 'i was seen this girl' and 'she was been stupid'

    Further grammatical errors/queries on boards.ie should be forwarded to Bluewolf via PM.

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Should have - e.g. I should have done that
    I hope lots of lower-class people erroneously plump for should of so I can sneer at them.

    The excitement of it is giving me a gargantuan erection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Aldebaran


    Getting ready to mob the first person who votes 'should of'.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brooke Poor Sportsman


    Larianne wrote: »
    Further grammatical errors/queries on boards.ie should be forwarded to Bluewolf via PM.

    :pac:
    bluewolf :cool::pac:
    stovelid wrote: »
    I hope lots of lower-class people erroneously plump for should of so I can sneer at them.

    The excitement of it is giving me a gargantuan erection.

    I'm not sneering at anyone. :rolleyes:


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Lazy speech translating into confused typing

    same reason you see 'i was seen this girl' and 'she was been stupid'

    Kind of different but my flatmate (who is awesome by the way) always says "pacific" when she means "specific" and it drives me mental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    stovelid wrote: »
    I hope lots of lower-class people erroneously plump for should of so I can sneer at them.

    The excitement of it is giving me a gargantuan erection.

    Well that's a lovely image - thanks for that. :eek: :p

    I'm also not sure that spelling and grammar is class dependent...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    bluewolf wrote: »
    bluewolf :cool::pac:

    I bloody well knew that as I was typing. Damn it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Dun


    Should have.. it's a "modal auxiliary verb", which means that it needs another verb afterwards. Should is the conditional form of "shall", much like would is the conditional form of "will".

    You could say (as archaic as it may sound) "I shall have finished this by 8 o'clock", and then at 9 o'clock "I should have finished this by 8 o'clock, but I went on AH and time flew by". But you wouldn't say "I shall of finished...." so you wouldn't say "I should of finished". It just sounds like that when we speak quickly :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Kind of different but my flatmate (who is awesome by the way) always says "pacific" when she means "specific" and it drives me mental.

    I'll be honest here and say I only copped myself saying the same thing about a year or two ago! :o Had no clue before!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Should have - e.g. I should have done that
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I'm not sneering at anyone. :rolleyes:

    That's a source of immense gratification to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Its should have... not that it really matters in the long run.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Larianne wrote: »
    I'll be honest here and say I only copped myself saying the same thing about a year or two ago! :o Had no clue before!!!

    It's an easy mistake to make in fairness, and I do enjoy talking like I'm stoned when they ask me to be more pacific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭Dun


    How is this a real question?

    "Should of" makes no grammatical sense whatsoever. "of" is not a verb.
    "Should" is the imperfect, and the imperfect can only be applied to a verb.

    "I should have done" is the past imperfect of "I do". The past tense, technically speaking, is "I have done", then you add the imperfect, "I should have done."

    Where the hell does "of" come into this? :confused:

    I do believe that "I was doing" or "I used to do" would be the imperfect of "I do". "I should do" would be the simple past of shall used as an auxiliary to "do". But I never studied English, except in the context of translation into it, so I'm open to correction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Elohim


    I made this mistake when I was 5. I still remember the shame!


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    One of my top 10 annoyances on boards.

    It's "should have", "would have" and "could have".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    It's an easy mistake to make in fairness, and I do enjoy talking like I'm stoned when they ask me to be more pacific.

    I don't know where I picked it up. I sometimes have trouble pronouncing certain 's' words so maybe that's it. It was only for my friend so corrected me, I'd still be going around saying it! :o


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brooke Poor Sportsman


    Zillah wrote: »
    ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES

    i would of taught it was all intensive purposes per say. i use it alot.


    ok, i need a shower now...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Those who understand English grammar and those who don't. Name and Shame.

    Poll:
    'Should of' v. 'Should have': which is correct?

    Should of - e.g. I should of done that

    stovelid

    Should have - e.g. I should have done that

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Dionysus wrote: »
    It's time for an AH poll on this as both versions appear to be widely used here.

    I've always said 'should have' - e.g. 'I should have done that' - but the more I read AH the more I realise I could, possibly, be incorrect.

    So, denizens of Afterhours: which is correct?


    Obviously the correct answer is 'Should Have'.

    We might also start a new thread regarding "I saw Vs I seen", the latter being very popular on Boards.ie :cool:


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Larianne wrote: »
    I don't know where I picked it up. I sometimes have trouble pronouncing certain 's' words so maybe that's it. It was only for my friend so corrected me, I'd still be going around saying it! :o

    say "statistics" :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    why is this a poll? It's not a matter of opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Should have - e.g. I should have done that
    it's clearly "should of", most people ITT is trolling. I can't believe people are this stupid.

    I award you all a solid 6/10 for solidarity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I fucking hate 'should of'. Arrrrgh. SHOULD HAVE!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Larianne wrote: »
    I'll be honest here and say I only copped myself saying the same thing about a year or two ago! :o Had no clue before!!!

    This brings a warm glow to my evangelical heart. Another sinner saved! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Joey.


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Kind of different but my flatmate (who is awesome by the way) always says "pacific" when she means "specific" and it drives me mental.

    I have a teacher who says that :rolleyes:
    I see "should of" a fair bit on Facebook, all rules for spelling/grammar/punctuation go out the window there, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    say "statistics" :pac:

    :( That's not funny.

    And I think I have a module on it this year in college. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 600 ✭✭✭The Orb


    Is this thread for real?, The answer is obvious to anybody who has any rudimentary grasp of the English language.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Larianne wrote: »
    :( That's not funny.

    And I think I have a module on it this year in college. :o

    Ah sorry I couldn't resist :o

    You don't really have a module on it this year do you?


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  • How is this a real question?

    "Should of" makes no grammatical sense whatsoever. "of" is not a verb.
    "Should" is the imperfect, and the imperfect can only be applied to a verb.

    "I should have done" is the past imperfect of "I do". The past tense, technically speaking, is "I have done", then you add the imperfect, "I should have done."

    Where the hell does "of" come into this? :confused:

    You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as the past imperfect. 'Should have' is a past modal. It's quite scary that quite a few people read your post and decided it was a great explanation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Sure that does be the way you do be doing it OP ;)


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as the past imperfect. 'Should have' is a past modal. It's quite scary that quite a few people read your post and decided it was a great explanation.

    But they said it with such purpose :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Can we have another poll asking "Earth flat or Earth round?"

    Because there's only one correct answer to that too!

    Those who opted for "of" need to go back to school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Obviously the correct answer is 'Should Have'.

    We might also start a new thread regarding "I saw Vs I seen", the latter being very popular on Boards.ie :cool:

    Go for it, LordSutch! And don't forget "Your" and "You're"! ;)


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Go for it, LordSutch! And don't forget "Your" and "You're"! ;)

    There, Their and They're

    To, Too and Two

    If we give each one a thread my might just change the world in our own little way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Should have - e.g. I should have done that
    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Those who opted for "of" need to go back to school.
    LordSutch wrote: »
    But we're not talking about 'Typo's here, we're talking about people who actually argue that 'Should of' is correct!

    We're just not as articulate and smart as you lot.

    No need to rub it in. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Go for it, LordSutch! And don't forget "Your" and "You're"! ;)

    But we're not talking about 'Typos' here, we're talking about people (3) who actually argue that 'Should of' is correct!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    al28283 wrote: »
    why is this a poll? It's not a matter of opinion

    Everything is a matter of opinion on a discussion forum.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,532 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Everything is a matter of opinion on a discussion forum.

    In your opinion!











































    :pac:


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