Different brand same product

TheMilkyPirate

On Kellogs boxes it says we don't make our product for anyone else. This got me thinking, Who does?

My mothers friend told her the other day that she knows that the Kiltealy gold butter in Aldi is made by Dairygold and is exactly the same, Haven't tried it myself yet but my mother said there is no difference at all, Apart from the fact that it's €1.50 or so cheaper.

Does anybody know any others?

mackg

I think Nestle make the generic supermarket brand cereals , hence the slogan on the Kelloggs.

Aodan83

Ya, that goes on a lot. A load of the supermarkets "own brand" items are made by other large producers, like with your butter example, and sold for far less. Can't think of any myself now though.

AgileMyth

Low fat milk is just full fat milk with a drop of water. Semi-skimmed is just low fat.

Its the worlds largest conspiracy. All the dairy farmers are in on it.

SEPT 23 1989

You wont find a job reading cereal boxes young man

biko

Factories that make OEM parts for the motor industry also make no-name aftermarket parts that are sold for a fraction of the price*



*this is what I've heard. If you replace OEM parts with after market I won't be held responsible

Karona

The Killeen factory make brand name brillo pads, they also make the cheap ones.

Paarse Krokodil

happens all the time with consumer electronics products.

A somewhat recognised brand in Europe will get some Chinese manufacturer to stick their own brand on the Chinese stuff. Its just a service the chinese manufacturer offers to sell more stuff.

Some company might buy a bunch of Chinese battery chargers and negotiate a deal to sell with Argos while a small importer will buy the same things to sell at lesser known shops and open air markets for a fraction of the price.

Brands like 'Power Devil', 'Challenge' and own-brand electronics like Maplin are notorious for it. Its not like Maplin owns a little factory in China somewhere making power supplies and batteries its all the same crap sold under lots of different names

Alter-Ego

Pretty much every name brand made by the Kerry Group has a supermarket own band equivalent, also made by the Kerry Group.

redfacedbear

I reckon that nearly all the frozen pizzas in the shops come from the same factory.

I've heard some pre-sliced cheese brands are the same too.

Degag

I think Jacobs make alot of the own brand biscuits.

Mongarra

Not sure if OP means food only but a friend went to a tyre/batteries agent for a tractor battery and agent asked him which brand stickers he wanted on the unmarked battery.

phasers

dunnes have the same clothes supplier as New Look and I think Dorothy Perkins, you'll often find the exact same dresses in the 3 shops with different labels and prices.

Cormac2791

That premium milk you buy in dublin is really avonmore!

--Kaiser--

AgileMyth wrote: »

Low fat milk is just full fat milk with a drop of water. Semi-skimmed is just low fat.

Its the worlds largest conspiracy. All the dairy farmers are in on it.

Dairy farmers have no control over milk once it's sold to the creamery

--Kaiser--

I know for a fact that the own-brand cheese that Dunnes (for example) sell is identical to the fancier branded stuff (Kilmeaden, Charleville) etc...

I imagine it's the same for many other products

sbsquarepants

Degag wrote: »

I think Jacobs make alot of the own brand biscuits.

They make the dunnes brand biscuits anyway, or at least they used to 2 or 3 years ago, not sure if they still do.

tallaghtmick

Dunnes and tesco brand butter is made by Dairygold.....how do I know this?I worked as a manager and found a creepy hybrid carton of butter with a Dunnes and tesco cover on it:pac:

Paarse Krokodil

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Dunnes and tesco brand butter is made by Dairygold.....how do I know this?I worked as a manager and found a creepy hybrid carton of butter with a Dunnes and tesco cover on it:pac:

Could it not just be that all the cartons come from the same supplier?

Alter-Ego

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Dunnes and tesco brand butter is made by Dairygold.....how do I know this?I worked as a manager and found a creepy hybrid carton of butter with a Dunnes and tesco cover on it:pac:

The thing that should not be!

Largo foods who make Tayto/King/Hunky Dorys also make a lot of own brand stuff.

crotalus667

Avenmore and Premier milk come from the same dairy/factory

Pace2008

AgileMyth wrote: »

Low fat milk is just full fat milk with a drop of water. Semi-skimmed is just low fat.

Its the worlds largest conspiracy. All the dairy farmers are in on it.

Doubt that's right. I have both low-fat and whole milk here in my fridge - the low-fat has a higher protein and sugar content, so it wouldn't make sense that it's just a watered-down version.

Paarse Krokodil

Pace2008 wrote: »

Doubt that's right. I have both low-fat and whole milk here in my fridge - the low-fat has a higher protein and sugar content, so it wouldn't make sense that it's just a watered-down version.

Fat free milk is just milk with a very large drop of water. Even if its not, it fecking tastes like it is.

Magic Beans

baraca wrote: »

On Kellogs boxes it says we don't make our product for anyone else.

When did you read that? AFAIK Kelloggs admitted to manufacturing LIDL cereal a couple of years ago. The cheap flakes market was just to big to ignore.

Lady Chatterton

Check out this thread for a list of companies who make supermarket own brands

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70930797

Cormac2791

crotalus667 wrote: »

Avenmore and Premier milk come from the same dairy/factory

I said that! :P

kwestfan08

Every large supermarket chicken comes from the same factory just with a different label. Same goes for the stuff like wings, legs etc

andala

Sometimes, due to increased demand, a famous lighting company whose name starts with P buys bulbs from China and repacks them to sell as their own brand

Also, the Dutch Cow and Gate equivalent is not a Dutch product as it's stated on the box, it's made in Poland and boxed in the Netherlands

wild_cat

Did you see this in the Irish Times OP?

Also a holla out to that poster that said food sold in Aldi is sub standard.

The company which supplies Aldi’s steaks and its fresh burgers is AIBP Meats. The same company supplies meat to Londis, Tesco and Superquinn.
Premium fillet steaks in Superquinn cost €9.99, or €49.95 a kilo. In Aldi, the same fillets from the same animals cost €13.99 for 400g, or €34.97 per kg.


Aldi’s Snackrite Okey Dokeys Crinkle Cut Crisps cost €1.99 for twelve 25g packets. The crisps are made by Largo Foods, better known as the makers of Hunky Dorys crisps. A six-pack of identically-sized Hunky Dorys was selling last week in another major supermarket for €2.15 – or over 100 per cent more expensive.


Well-known relish and jam makers from Cork, and artisan producers of yoghurts and bread also make products for Aldi which sell for less than their own branded products. This begs the question why more Irish people are not hunting out these supermarket-branded products.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/pricewatch/2011/0822/1224302803354.html

Paarse Krokodil

andala wrote: »

Sometimes, due to increased demand, a famous lighting company whose name starts with P buys bulbs from China and repacks them to sell as their own brand

I thought all LED bulbs made by the said company come from China

Mickeroo

Aldi flour (or maybe Lidl, not sure) is just odlums in a different pack afaik.

x_Ellie_x

I've heard that Jacobs make Tesco's own brand biscuits.

jeddie20

That own brand meat you're looking at? Yeah, good chance it came from the exact same farm as the more expensive one beside it.. Different sticker, only difference.

TheZohanS

Bord na Mona make all the B&Q own brand peat moss.

sean1141

biko wrote: »

Factories that make OEM parts for the motor industry also make no-name aftermarket parts that are sold for a fraction of the price*

noooooooo!!

OE = original equipment which is the branded stuff like vw branded mintex brake pads

OEM =original equipment material which would be the same mintex pads without the vw branding

:P

Naomi00

phasers wrote: »

dunnes have the same clothes supplier as New Look and I think Dorothy Perkins, you'll often find the exact same dresses in the 3 shops with different labels and prices.

That's not really true. New Look make their own clothes, saw it on a documentary on Channel 4 that they make their clothes in sweat shops in England but write on the labels that they're made in Asia.

Dunnes also make their own clothes, they've been brought to court for copying designs.

There are loads of cheap 'brands' that sell the exact same generic item with a different name on it. They're ones you've never heard of and they sell them in small clothes shops (and some shops like New Look and Swamp stock these too). Basically the 'brand' doesn't actually design or make anything, they buy items in bulk from factories in China and stick their name on them. That's why sometimes you'll see exactly the same item in several shops.

Naomi00

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I know for a fact that the own-brand cheese that Dunnes (for example) sell is identical to the fancier branded stuff (Kilmeaden, Charleville) etc...

I imagine it's the same for many other products

Well Tesco cheese tastes like plastic, no doubt they make it themselves

the groutch

not every own brand product will be made with the exact same raw materials as the brand name one

Naomi00

the groutch wrote: »

not every own brand product will be made with the exact same raw materials as the brand name one

Yeah, I think mostly they use the factory.

Samba

wild_cat wrote: »

The company which supplies Aldi’s steaks and its fresh burgers is AIBP Meats. The same company supplies meat to Londis, Tesco and Superquinn.
Premium fillet steaks in Superquinn cost €9.99, or €49.95 a kilo. In Aldi, the same fillets from the same animals cost €13.99 for 400g, or €34.97 per kg.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/pricewatch/2011/0822/1224302803354.html

I suspect that may not be entirely accurate, I've eaten fillet steaks from all three except Aldi, the fillet steaks down at my local SQ store in Blackrock are on another level compared with Tesco and Londis. Yes the same supplier but the same cut from the same animal I don't believe. Part of me hopes I'm wrong(the part that wants to save money ) but in my experience none come close to the quality of meat down at that particular store, the stuff literally melts in your mouth whereas with Tesco it doesn't taste as good and isn't half as tender.

frozenbanana

Apple, Compaq, Dell, LG, Lenovo, Sharp, Siemens, Sony, Toshiba (and more) - all these laptops are made by the same manufacturer - if you don't believe me look up 'Quanta Computer'.

Forest Master

When I worked in the provisions dept in Superquinn (1996 approx), all the Superthrift frozen products (this was before Euroshopper) arrived on the same pallet as the Green Isle stuff.

--Kaiser--

frozenbanana wrote: »

Apple, Compaq, Dell, LG, Lenovo, Sharp, Siemens, Sony, Toshiba (and more) - all these laptops are made by the same manufacturer - if you don't believe me look up 'Quanta Computer'.

There's actually a few companies that make these laptops, but basically all the above can come from the same factory

RhubarbCrumble

Barry's tea make Dunnes own teabags.

mackg

Forest Master wrote: »

When I worked in the provisions dept in Superquinn (1996 approx), all the Superthrift frozen products (this was before Euroshopper) arrived on the same pallet as the Green Isle stuff.

When I worked in Dunnes recently all the frozen food arrived in one delivery, it could just be the nature of frozen food though.

rubadub

If you pick up 2 items you can compare nutritional info, it is unlikely (except for maybe milk or sugar etc) to have exactly the same info.

e.g. protein 4.5g
fat 3.6g
carbs 55.4g
of which sugars 6.2g
fibre 4.3g

it is almost like matching passwords, but you can see it on some brands. When I was young I worked a few weeks helping load up trucks, we got branded stuff from shamrock foods for various supermarkets, like shamrock might make dunnes beans and superquinn peas (not saying they do, can't remember them).

Even still they could use poorer quality grades of the same ingredients, or bake biscuits faster etc.

frozenbanana

rubadub wrote: »

Even still they could use poorer quality grades of the same ingredients, or bake biscuits faster etc.

I was thinking that too. But then you'd wonder if cutting corners wouldn't affect nutritional values

Jimoslimos

rubadub wrote: »

If you pick up 2 items you can compare nutritional info, it is unlikely (except for maybe milk or sugar etc) to have exactly the same info.

TBH nutritional info figures are pretty fluid and can in some cases vary widely from batch to batch on the same product. So just because two products have different figures doesn't mean they're not from the same supplier.

Cantona's Collars

Samba wrote: »

I suspect that may not be entirely accurate, I've eaten fillet steaks from all three except Aldi, the fillet steaks down at my local SQ store in Blackrock are on another level compared with Tesco and Londis. Yes the same supplier but the same cut from the same animal I don't believe. Part of me hopes I'm wrong(the part that wants to save money ) but in my experience none come close to the quality of meat down at that particular store, the stuff literally melts in your mouth whereas with Tesco it doesn't taste as good and isn't half as tender.

Aldi have a Specially Selected range which is top notch,the steaks are among the best you can get.

rubadub

frozenbanana wrote: »

I was thinking that too. But then you'd wonder if cutting corners wouldn't affect nutritional values

It could but they are allowed leeway with the values. I was not saying the only way to tell they are made be the same company is the values, obviously they could change the recipes etc. But if 2 sets are the same they are probably the same company (but not neccesarily same grade/methods)

Jimoslimos wrote: »

TBH nutritional info figures are pretty fluid and can in some cases vary widely from batch to batch on the same product.

This is why they would have to allow leeway, they do not go printing up different labels everytime they make a product. They would have to change websites, brochures, notify the likes of tesco who publish info online etc. It would be easier to tweak a recipe if they went outside acceptable limits.

Jimoslimos wrote: »

So just because two products have different figures doesn't mean they're not from the same supplier.

of course

John the baptist

I worked in a food producing factory a number of years back and my job was to run the labelling machine. On some products we would label up the required amount of the first product, remove the labels and replace with the labels for the next product and just start the line up again.
A lot of the various supermarket own brand product that we made were the exact same thing.
Often i've seen two items beside each other in a supermarket with a substantial difference in price that were actually the same thing with a different label.