3DS Rumors!!!! But god damn it Nintendo!!!

readyletsgo

Prob most likely not true but if it is....

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/27572

'Is Nintendo drastically changing the 3DS?



Nintendo is rumored to be working an attachment for the 3DS that will add a second Slide Pad, as well as a radical hardware revision for the 3DS, according to a report by 01net.
The report cites an anonymous source within Nintendo, and claims that Nintendo is not only working on an analog control attachment for the 3DS, but that they have third party developers working on titles that make use of it. Their source claims that prevailing thought in Nintendo has concluded that dual analog is far more important for gaming than originally perceived. According to their sources, 01net says the attachment would retail for about $10 and be required for some games. How it would attach to the right side of the 3DS hardware is currently unknown.
In addition, the report states that the disappointing performance of the 3DS may be forcing Nintendo to rethink its strategy. The report states that Nintendo may introduce a new 3DS redesign in 2012. The rumored model will address some of the concerns players had with the original 3DS and the marketing will put less emphasis the 3D element of the system. Nintendo may even give the unit a different name in order to differentiate it from the current 3DS. 01net speculates that 3DS price drop, as well as the Ambassador program, may be a strategy to liquidate the current 3DS inventory in order to make way for the new design.
In the past, 01net has been accurate with their reports. They were the first to let out details about the Wii U, and they claim to have trustworthy sources from within Nintendo. Until the evidence is clear, however, this is a rumor.'

They are thinking of changing the name of the 3DS too, think what you will of that rumor....


What you think?

megaten

Funny just got my 3DS yesterday.

I only got my 3ds to replace my broken dslite so I was never to pushed about what the future holds for 3DS. That said I would be pretty annoyed about any drastic revisions as this seems to suggest. It seems a very segaish ethos for releasing consoles which is a sure fire way of burning your customers. I'd say these rumours are more indicative of a 3DS Lite personally.

I'm more worried about the rumours of massive dev kit shortages. With the console a such an early stage in it's life they need to get dev kits out to every dev that's interested.

ShadowHearth

I bought my one Saturday...

This does not make me happy camper.

I got 3ds as I newer had a ds. I have a huge backlog of ds games so lack of 3ds games does not bother me ATM.

I really love 3d effect in zelda game, it really works nice in game and it's not just a gimmick. So I am looking forward to ather 3d titles.

If nintendo will drop ball and make virtual boy mk2 from 3ds, then it will be the las nintendo product I ever bought in my life.

pdbhp

If they add another slide pad it will make the console much better and open it up to cross platform games making it much more competitive with Vita and also make it easier for devs to make monies.

However after buying the 3DS in it's current guise, if Nintendo change the design and don't offer me big prizes for the inconvienance I'll be very unhappy and probably boycott Nintendo even though I've been a sorry ass fanboy for 25 years

Fysh

I'm surprised they're doing this so quickly, but let's have a reality check here - this exactly what Nintendo have always done with their handhelds. The fact that it's happening so fast is a reflection of how poorly the 3DS has done compared to Nintendo's expectations/projections, but multiple iterations were always going to be a given.

Yes, it's a bit of a bitch for early adopters, but I'm pretty sure that's also always been the case with Nintendo.

ShadowHearth

Fysh wrote: »

I'm surprised they're doing this so quickly, but let's have a reality check here - this exactly what Nintendo have always done with their handhelds. The fact that it's happening so fast is a reflection of how poorly the 3DS has done compared to Nintendo's expectations/projections, but multiple iterations were always going to be a given.

Yes, it's a bit of a bitch for early adopters, but I'm pretty sure that's also always been the case with Nintendo.

well DS version came fast allright, but it was more cosmetic upgrade. you could still play all games with DS you bought on day one.

we are talking about new hardware and new control scheme.

TeddyTedson

I really doubt it's going to happen.

Fysh

ShadowHearth wrote: »

well DS version came fast allright, but it was more cosmetic upgrade. you could still play all games with DS you bought on day one.

we are talking about new hardware and new control scheme.

The Gameboy Micro removed the GBA backwards compatibility with GB/GBC games; one of the DS revisions knackered the ability to play Rock Band; the recently announced Wii revision removes the Gamecube backwards compatibility. And that's just off the top of my head.

I wouldn't go taking the word of an unnamed employee as gospel when they're claiming serious hardware modifications like totally changing the system input scheme, but in terms of piddling about with new iterations within the same device family (sometimes adding new functionality, sometimes removing it) this is pretty much par for the course.

mayordenis

Fysh wrote: »

The Gameboy Micro removed the GBA backwards compatibility with GB/GBC games; one of the DS revisions knackered the ability to play Rock Band; the recently announced Wii revision removes the Gamecube backwards compatibility. And that's just off the top of my head.

I wouldn't go taking the word of an unnamed employee as gospel when they're claiming serious hardware modifications like totally changing the system input scheme, but in terms of piddling about with new iterations within the same device family (sometimes adding new functionality, sometimes removing it) this is pretty much par for the course.

I don't think you're comparing like with like,

First the Gameboy Micro still played all GBA games and came out 4 years after the GBA - it also didn't mean all GBA games made from then on would have a different control scheme.

Yes after the DSi was released it was no longer possible to play Guitar Hero but again this didn't affect anyone who had the previous versions of the console, it still didn't mean that new games coming out would not be playable on the original DS or DS lite.

The issue at hand here is that about 6 months into the consoles life that a new control scheme could potentially be announced meaning that games released in the future would not be compatible with the current console.

This was not the case with any of the ones you put forward.

Fysh

mayordenis wrote: »

The issue at hand here is that about 6 months into the consoles life that a new control scheme could potentially be announced meaning that games released in the future would not be compatible with the current console.

This was not the case with any of the ones you put forward.

Referring to the bit in bold above, the comments come from an unnamed Nintendo employee. By that logic, unicorns could be discovered soon, and frankly based on the current evidence I think both developments have approximately equal chances of becoming reality

I'd compare this to the Apple rumour mill that goes into high gear every six months or so - and where for every time they get it right, there are plenty of examples of when they get it wrong that are quickly forgotten because "rumour turns out to be bull****" isn't a particularly surprising or interesting news item.

It's possible that Nintendo are dropping the price on the 3DS to sell existing stock, abandon version 1 of the console as a bad lot and then release version 2 which alters the platform and leaves those on version 1 in the lurch. It'd be a pretty stupid move though, and frustrating though they often are, Nintendo rarely make that kind of stupid move (I'd say the last instance of it was choosing to make the N64 a cartridge-based console with a horrible mutant monstrosity of a controller, myself).

mayordenis

Fysh wrote: »

Referring to the bit in bold above, the comments come from an unnamed Nintendo employee. By that logic, unicorns could be discovered soon, and frankly based on the current evidence I think both developments have approximately equal chances of becoming reality

I'd compare this to the Apple rumour mill that goes into high gear every six months or so - and where for every time they get it right, there are plenty of examples of when they get it wrong that are quickly forgotten because "rumour turns out to be bull****" isn't a particularly surprising or interesting news item.

It's possible that Nintendo are dropping the price on the 3DS to sell existing stock, abandon version 1 of the console as a bad lot and then release version 2 which alters the platform and leaves those on version 1 in the lurch. It'd be a pretty stupid move though, and frustrating though they often are, Nintendo rarely make that kind of stupid move (I'd say the last instance of it was choosing to make the N64 a cartridge-based console with a horrible mutant monstrosity of a controller, myself).

Oh don't get me wrong for a second I don't think this is going to happen right now, but if people are going to discuss the possibility then it should be done correctly.
I was just disagreeing with your idea that it was in anyway similar to the Game Boy Micro or the DSi - that's all.

ShadowHearth

mayordenis wrote: »

I don't think you're comparing like with like,

First the Gameboy Micro still played all GBA games and came out 4 years after the GBA - it also didn't mean all GBA games made from then on would have a different control scheme.

Yes after the DSi was released it was no longer possible to play Guitar Hero but again this didn't affect anyone who had the previous versions of the console, it still didn't mean that new games coming out would not be playable on the original DS or DS lite.

The issue at hand here is that about 6 months into the consoles life that a new control scheme could potentially be announced meaning that games released in the future would not be compatible with the current console.

This was not the case with any of the ones you put forward.

this.

you explained it way better then i could. 4 years is a long lifespam, 1 year? not so much.

tbahh

There was an interview I read a while back with Reggie Fils-Aime and he was asked a question about the possibility of a '3ds lite' and he said they have no plans as of yet. Will try and find the link

I think that a wireless sliding clip could be a good thing. So in some games you can cover tha ABXY buttons with the new clip. I think it would be awkward if it only fits below the ABXY buttons.

If this becomes a required part of the game, Nintendo should provide it free of charge to the Ambassadors and send them out like the way they did it with WiiMote Jackets

Dman001

If true, it's ridiculous that Nintendo didn't add this to start with. The 3DS obviously isn't doing as well as they hoped, evident from the recent price drop. But I can't see either how this will improve sales. They should put their effort into releasing more games for the system.

Mark Hamill

ShadowHearth wrote: »

we are talking about new hardware and new control scheme.

Would it be that different though? I understand what you are saying, that the new 3ds could have games made for it that aren't compatible with the old 3ds (assuming the new one has two analogue sticks), but if wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to release the extra analogue stick peripheral if it wasn't going to be compatible with future games. I fact, it would be pretty much useless.

I think that this could work for Nintendo if the new stick peripheral sits tight to the right hand side of the 3ds and whose based is a replacement (much improved) battery. The system would be bulkier, but a second stick and a better battery would be a major selling point of both the peripheral and redesigned system.

Dman001

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Would it be that different though? I understand what you are saying, that the new 3ds could have games made for it that aren't compatible with the old 3ds (assuming the new one has two analogue sticks), but if wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to release the extra analogue stick peripheral if it wasn't going to be compatible with future games. I fact, it would be pretty much useless.

I think that this could work for Nintendo if the new stick peripheral sits tight to the right hand side of the 3ds and whose based is a replacement (much improved) battery. The system would be bulkier, but a second stick and a better battery would be a major selling point of both the peripheral and redesigned system.

These attachments always work out to be brutal. They always land out to be very inconvenient, bulky and in the way. I know this attachment may not even exist, never mind the fact that we haven't seen it, but the past has shown that attachments are never as convenient as made out to be.

Azure_sky

If this is true then I'll be very patient with the Wii U...

Mark Hamill

Dman001 wrote: »

These attachments always work out to be brutal. They always land out to be very inconvenient, bulky and in the way. I know this attachment may not even exist, never mind the fact that we haven't seen it, but the past has shown that attachments are never as convenient as made out to be.

On the one hand, technically the wii nunchuck is an attachment and that has done well, on the other hand, I've read a report of nintendo cheaping out on the wii U tablet controller components, so its possible that whatever attachment they come up with could be a must have or an abomination. We will have to wait and see before we can right it off.

Dman001

Mark Hamill wrote: »

On the one hand, technically the wii nunchuck is an attachment and that has done well, on the other hand, I've read a report of nintendo cheaping out on the wii U tablet controller components, so its possible that whatever attachment they come up with could be a must have or an abomination. We will have to wait and see before we can right it off.

But the Numchuck was always part of the Wii, and the system and all the games were built around the Numchuck. Having said that, the Motion Plus attachment did work out fine.

Helix

nintendo are really grasping at straws regarding the 3ds at the moment

expect to see its successor within 3 years

Helix

Mark Hamill wrote: »

On the one hand, technically the wii nunchuck is an attachment and that has done well, on the other hand, I've read a report of nintendo cheaping out on the wii U tablet controller components, so its possible that whatever attachment they come up with could be a must have or an abomination. We will have to wait and see before we can right it off.

i spoke to a developer at ea recently who said hes not even seen the Wii U controller yet in person, yet theyve had the hardware for developing for a while

jaykhunter

About this right analogue stick; that's generally for camera movement, right? But (eg) Mario games have a good dynamic camera? Couldn't other games have that too; so no need for a redesign?

TBH it shouldn't be, as was said, a SEGAish attitude with multiple new consoles/revisions; they just need to bring out heavy-hitting AAA games. i.e. what they should've been doing with the mountains of scrooge mcDuck cash they got from the Wii and DS sales.

You can just not focus as much on the 3D aspect; all that's required is great games and an ad campaign that focuses more on the game.

Anyway it's not tits up; but although it's a clever name, if u wanted to sell it as a different console and not just a new gimmick then a new name is required....

...this is a danger for the Wii U. Most people think it's just a new controller, lol.

ShadowHearth

jaykhunter wrote: »

About this right analogue stick; that's generally for camera movement, right? But (eg) Mario games have a good dynamic camera? Couldn't other games have that too; so no need for a redesign?

TBH it shouldn't be, as was said, a SEGAish attitude with multiple new consoles/revisions; they just need to bring out heavy-hitting AAA games. i.e. what they should've been doing with the mountains of scrooge mcDuck cash they got from the Wii and DS sales.

You can just not focus as much on the 3D aspect; all that's required is great games and an ad campaign that focuses more on the game.

Anyway it's not tits up; but although it's a clever name, if u wanted to sell it as a different console and not just a new gimmick then a new name is required....

...this is a danger for the Wii U. Most people think it's just a new controller, lol.

Good thinking m8. I personnally okay with 3ds controls now. In zelda camera works okay. With a single press of button you cam centre it out.

Any normal gamer knows that wii u and 3ds has better hardware, but the sea of casual gamers that nintendo is aiming at knows jack ****..

Icyseanfitz

nintendo would want to pull the finger out tbh, there is like one good game for the 3ds at the moment (zelda) and most people just think its a ds with a 3d screen, as for the Wii U wtf springs to mind, i dont want to be holding a tablet in my hands to play my games, enough of the gimmicks nintendo start making some good games for feck sake

o1s1n

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

nintendo would want to pull the finger out tbh, there is like one good game for the 3ds at the moment (zelda) and most people just think its a ds with a 3d screen, as for the Wii U wtf springs to mind, i dont want to be holding a tablet in my hands to play my games, enough of the gimmicks nintendo start making some good games for feck sake

I do agree that Nintendo seriously need to start releasing some great first party titles, but every time someone says the above about the only good game being OOT, my copy of Ghost Recon cries a little. It's a great game! Plays like Advance Wars.

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

I do agree that Nintendo seriously need to start releasing some great first party titles, but every time someone says the above about the only good game being OOT, my copy of Ghost Recon cries a little. It's a great game! Plays like Advance Wars.

It's hardly a must have though...or is it? I have to admit I find it amusing why the folks at Nintendo HQ are scratching their heads wondering why sales are so bad (sorry Mr. Saturn, I know that won't sit well with you).

Icyseanfitz

o1s1n wrote: »

I do agree that Nintendo seriously need to start releasing some great first party titles, but every time someone says the above about the only good game being OOT, my copy of Ghost Recon cries a little. It's a great game! Plays like Advance Wars.

i dont even have a 3ds at the moment but the only game that screams to me as a must have is zelda, i will be buying one fairly shortly though as i never had a ds so i have a massive back log of games there,

I really dont know whats wrong with nintendo though, it was clearly a mistake calling the new handheld the 3ds, and then they go and make the same mistake with the wii u, it would be alright if they where aiming at the core gamers as we would know whats what but they arnt their new gamers are the casuals and they dont know the difference between a ds and a 3ds or a wii and a wii u

Myrddin

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

i dont even have a 3ds at the moment but the only game that screams to me as a must have is zelda, i will be buying one fairly shortly though as i never had a ds so i have a massive back log of games there,

I really dont know whats wrong with nintendo though, it was clearly a mistake calling the new handheld the 3ds, and then they go and make the same mistake with the wii u, it would be alright if they where aiming at the core gamers as we would know whats what but they arnt their new gamers are the casuals and they dont know the difference between a ds and a 3ds or a wii and a wii u

Maybe the lads are right though, it could be still too soon to be complaining. It's just hard not too when you've had the system from launch...six months & counting. By this time next year the lineup could be incredible...the potential of the machine just isn't being realised, & thats a hard pill to swallow when its Nintendo we're talking about.

Dman001

I think give it a year, and it will have a great range of games. But something I noticed with Nintendo over the last few years is that they are increasingly relying on 1st Party Games, as they continue to bring out new systems. This was more so apparent with the Wii and now 3DS. If someone asked me to name a good Wii game not made by Nintendo, I'd struggle to name one. And the 3DS is looking the same, with a great amount of 1st Party titles coming out for it but little mention of any 3rd Party titles.

o1s1n

EnterNow wrote: »

It's hardly a must have though...or is it? I have to admit I find it amusing why the folks at Nintendo HQ are scratching their heads wondering why sales are so bad (sorry Mr. Saturn, I know that won't sit well with you).

It's not filler ****e, it's a really good turn based strategy game. It's made by Julian Gollop, the guy who's responsible for Laser Squad and X-COM. If you like Advance Wars you'll really enjoy it. Plus it can be hard now for about 20 euro.

I think it's flying under the radar as people groan when they see the Tom Clancy logo. It's as far from your usual Tom Clancy style shooter as you can get.

Mr.Saturn

EnterNow wrote: »

It's hardly a must have though...or is it? I have to admit I find it amusing why the folks at Nintendo HQ are scratching their heads wondering why sales are so bad (sorry Mr. Saturn, I know that won't sit well with you).

That time of the week again?


Anyways, I was going to cry 'killer app', but Fatal Frame showed up on the Wii, and folk still dismiss that system as having no games, still a fun addition either way:

http://www.1up.com/news/fatal-frame-team-reveals-shinrei

Star Lord

o1s1n wrote: »

I think it's flying under the radar as people groan when they see the Tom Clancy logo. It's as far from your usual Tom Clancy style shooter as you can get.

Shame though, as the original Rainbow Six games were awesome. (Back in the day)

smokingman

EnterNow wrote: »

It's hardly a must have though...or is it?

It most definitely is - I think it's the best game I've played on the system and that includes Zelda.

o1s1n wrote: »

It's not filler ****e, it's a really good turn based strategy game.

One thing to note about it as well is the replayability - I just keep going back for a blast and never get bored.

readyletsgo

Was just reading some comments re Nintys conference on the 13th of this month and what the new product might be, most likely games coming out in 2012, not a 3DS lite etc, but I just saw someone say they would like Nintendo to release a 'small plastic thing' that you could carry around with you to use for streetpass instead of carrying around the 3DS its self, then sync it up with the 3DS when you get back home.

I think this is a great idea and would be a great little add on, I never bring my 3DS with me anywhere, its just too big for my pocket and I never really use a bag.

What you think?

o1s1n

That's a great idea!

I was all over the place during the summer but it was too hot to wear a coat. No coat = no pocket for 3DS = no street pass hits.

A key fob or something like that would be great.

readyletsgo

Yeah a Key Fob type thing on your keys, right beside your tesco and apt key fob (heehee), would cost nothing to make and they could charge €10 or €15 for one, sync it to your system and bobs your unkle, suddenly LOADS of hits!

Seems so obvious, why havent they done this already!

o1s1n

They'll probably reason that a key fob promotes leaving your 3DS at home gathering dust. When they want you to be taking it with you and using it all the time. Probably won't happen for that reason unfortunately

Banjo

I don't know, O1s1n - by that logic they'd never have come up with the Pokéwalker. And they did. And what a roaring success that was!

With a keyfob/cufflink/belt clip, even when you leave the house without your 3DS, you're still thinking about your 3DS and they still own that little part of your soul.

readyletsgo

Banjo wrote: »

I don't know, O1s1n - by that logic they'd never have come up with the Pokéwalker. And they did. And what a roaring success that was!

With a keyfob/cufflink/belt clip, even when you leave the house without your 3DS, you're still thinking about your 3DS and they still own that little part of your soul.

and... AND you you have to turn on your 3DS when you get home from work/college whatever and see what you got. I can totally see this workin. Someone send this idea to NoE/J/A somehow.

Nollog

How would you know if you got a streetpass?
And streetpasses are actually pretty complex, hardware-requiring things.

I doubt there's new hardware to unveil on September 13th.
Just games. The thing they were kind of missing at e3.

readyletsgo

/\/ollog wrote: »

How would you know if you got a streetpass?
And streetpasses are actually pretty complex, hardware-requiring things.

I doubt there's new hardware to unveil on September 13th.
Just games. The thing they were kind of missing at e3.

You for real? Same way you would know on the 3ds, a little light lights up after you get a hit, and its not that complexed at all.

I doubt there is any new hardware either in the 13th, but this keyfob would be sweet.

Yeah the 3ds badly needs games! Mines gathering dust this past two months.

o1s1n

/\/ollog wrote: »

How would you know if you got a streetpass?
And streetpasses are actually pretty complex, hardware-requiring things.

I doubt there's new hardware to unveil on September 13th.
Just games. The thing they were kind of missing at e3.

Complex in what capacity? All the fob would need to do is transmit some data about a Mii.

Nollog

WPA2 and randomised keys, randomised handshakes, more encryption, etc.
It's a lot of stuff, homebrew folk reverse engineered it.

gubbie

Regarding some people speculating about a 3ds lite... Is the 3ds even that bulky? I've only had the chance to play it in Gamestop but didn't think it any bulkier then the nds lite.

pdbhp

gubbie wrote: »

Regarding some people speculating about a 3ds lite... Is the 3ds even that bulky? I've only had the chance to play it in Gamestop but didn't think it any bulkier then the nds lite.

It is only a few milemetres bigger than the DS Lite and probably won't get any smaller than it already is.

Myrddin

pdbhp wrote: »

It is only a few milemetres bigger than the DS Lite and probably won't get any smaller than it already is.

3DS XL?

Mr.Saturn

EnterNow wrote: »

3DS XL?

Mind, you'd just have a bigger screen to not have anything to play on. For the LULZ........

speedboatchase

If it is a new model then watch that stock price plummet. If Nintendo's genius plan is to drop its console by €100 and then while everyone begins to see it as worth a purchase, they announce a hardware revision weeks after the price cut, then they are idiots!

Having said that, I'm predicting a new Pokemon game announcement.

Nollog

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8519/391680324.jpg
The fabled second slide pad. :-\
Nintendoooo!!!!
From famitsu, the Japanese game magazine that always gets the scoop.

ShaneU

My god that is awful, looks like a game gear. Feel sorry for anyone who bought a 3DS, they'll inevitably bring out a new version with two sticks included now


edit: it's insanely thick as well

LookingFor

WTF is Nintendo doing?

Way to repeatedly screw over the trust of your early adopters.