Rebels Are Entering Tripoli - Is Gadaffi done finally?

Biggins

Latest news is that Libyan rebels are now driving up and entering into Tripoli.
Gadaffi's soldiers are running away a great deal it appears.

Sky is reporting live and state "they have encountered (so far) no resistance" and is showing lots of Gadaffi soldier uniforms being dumped by the road sides.

Is Gadaffi's time finally up?

http://news.sky.com/home/liveplus

MitchKoobski

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some good footage from Al Jazeera.

the keen edge

Yeah he's going to have to leave Tripoli for Dublin soon.

Gadaffi's Gaff niteclub to open soon.

aaronjumper

Well best not get your hopes up until
he is officially stopped. Or caught depending
on peoples opinion of him.

Biggins

the keen edge wrote: »

Yeah he's going to have to leave Tripoli for Dublin soon.

Gadaffi's Gaff niteclub to open soon.

Should be a blast!

Dionysus

Biggins wrote: »

Is Gadaffi's time finally up?

Tá súil agam go mbeidh sé fíor.

joshrogan

Dionysus wrote: »

Tá súil agam go mbeidh sé fíor.

SHUDDUP YA BLEEDIN 4NER

7sr2z3fely84g5

the oil suppliers are hoping he keep up a good fight.

Chuck Stone

I wonder will the Chinese oil companies be allowed back in.

Biggins

Dionysus wrote: »

Tá súil agam go mbeidh sé fíor.

Mar sin, is féidir liom a bheith macánta.

hmmm

Sky News coverage has been brilliant. Alex Crawford is nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OItnz76-88M

WonderWoman!

Thousands of civilians dying needlessly and all yis can talk about is oil

Eric Cartman

WonderWoman! wrote: »

Thousands of civilians dying needlessly and all yis can talk about is oil

were just pretending its the oval office

Biggins

The harder part after they take over maybe, is what comes next?
With a power vacume too prolonging, the once united rebels, might break up into their differing smaller factions.
So some sort of unity governing system needs to be established as soon as possible and get up and running.

prinz

Hopefully they finally secure victory over Gadaffi as soon as possible and that things improve for the people.

aligator_am

WonderWoman! wrote: »

Thousands of civilians dying needlessly and all yis can talk about is oil

Well oil is all the Western powers are thinking of to be honest, sweetest crude on the planet by all accounts.

How much oil do Syria have?

Gadaffi apparently threatens to kill rebels and NATO bomb the holy hell out of him, Assad wantonly riddles folk left right and centre and Turkey gives them about 10 final warnings.

Seems just a tad suspicious to me.

mike65

Twiiter is agog with Gaddafi dead and the inner core arrested chatter

Bonne nouvelle ou intox CONFIRMED: Mu'amar Gaddafi, leader of Libya for 42 years, has been shot DEAD in vicinity of Rixos Hotel in Tripoli.”

Al Jazeera: sources confirm arrest of Gaddafi's two sons: Saif Gadafi and Sady in #Tripoli #Libya & Im guessing whos next

prinz

aligator_am wrote: »

Seems just a tad suspicious to me.

That's because your taking a seriously simplistic view.

mike65

aligator_am wrote: »

Well oil is all the Western powers are thinking of to be honest, sweetest crude on the planet by all accounts.

How much oil do Syria have?

Gadaffi apparently threatens to kill rebels and NATO bomb the holy hell out of him, Assad wantonly riddles folk left right and centre and Turkey gives them about 10 final warnings.

Seems just a tad suspicious to me.

Libya is a winnable war (everything that matters is within 30 miles of the coast), Syria is a much tougher nut to crack due to its location, its size and its neighbours.

Richard Hillman

I think the game is up for him. The chap is mental though he probably will fight to the death.

aligator_am

prinz wrote: »

That's because your taking a seriously simplistic view.

OK, what am I failing to understand? that's a genuine question by the way, not being snide.

mike65

Ah The Spirit of Comical Ali is alive and well

2157:

Libyan government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim has appeared on state TV, telling viewers: "Our country will be safe, in peace and in tranquillity soon.. These are the moments of the last battle in which we will be victorious God willing and the remnants of these gangs which are acting under Nato's orders will be destroyed."

Don't these people know how silly they sound at times like these?

Biggins

Confirmation from Sky - One of Gadaffi's sons has been captured.

hmmm

Reports that Gadaffi's son Saif has been captured.

7sr2z3fely84g5

WonderWoman! wrote: »

Thousands of civilians dying needlessly and all yis can talk about is oil

Well lets see,take zimbabwe,does have any oil fields,no,it does business with china,china does business with Europe/usa,so as far as the usa and rest of them concern,china/Zimbabwe can torture/kill who they like because they have a lot of business with the usa.

if you look back at any conflicts over the years,it was all political gain,nothing to do with watching the little people suffer.

hmmm

bbcHIGNFY HaveIGotNewsForYou
Gaddafi's authority has wilted due to a critically weak defence, heaping pressure on other mad dictators to spend in the transfer window.

Amhran Nua

mike65 wrote: »

Twiiter is agog with Gaddafi dead and the inner core arrested chatter

Bonne nouvelle ou intox CONFIRMED: Mu'amar Gaddafi, leader of Libya for 42 years, has been shot DEAD in vicinity of Rixos Hotel in Tripoli.”

Al Jazeera: sources confirm arrest of Gaddafi's two sons: Saif Gadafi and Sady in #Tripoli #Libya & Im guessing whos next

Semper sic tyrannis.

hmmm

Terrence Big Zeppelin wrote: »

if you look back at any conflicts over the years,it was all political gain,nothing to do with watching the little people suffer.

Just once, can people like you go back to a student politics forum and leave this thread alone? France and the UK had signed oil contracts with Libya before this war and they lost those contracts when they prevented the massacre of tens of thousands by protecting Benghazi.

prinz

aligator_am wrote: »

OK, what am I failing to understand? that's a genuine question by the way, not being snide.

Geopolitics in every sense of the word. Geography (i.e. Syrias ability to threaten regional security with Israel, Lebanon). The spread of the population of Syria as opposed to Libya's coastline. Diplomacy, Syria's ties with Iran and North Korea for example along with long range missiles. Militarily, Assad's ability to field up to half a million troops....

Gadaffi was isolated. Friendless. With all major population centres on the coast etc etc. Far easier for intervention.

Solnskaya

WonderWoman! wrote: »

Thousands of civilians dying needlessly and all yis can talk about is oil

dead right there- we should have a whip-around and send in a load of fresh needles. Even Libyan Junkies have rights.

Biggins

hmmm wrote: »

Reports that Gadaffi's son Saif has been captured.

If true, there are international arrest warrants out for him so if he survives the next few days/weeks, we might yet see him eventually in a European court?

aligator_am

mike65 wrote: »

Libya is a winnable war (everything that matters is within 30 miles of the coast), Syria is a much tougher nut to crack due to its location, its size and its neighbours.

Fair point, but doesn't that reflect pretty poorly on the UN / NATO if they let Assad be but whack Gadaffi as it was the easy option?

IMO I think Gadaffi ruffled plenty of feathers when he proposed a single African currency backed by gold, that likely got him to the top of the hit list.

Amhran Nua

RT @MalikAlAbdeh: CONFIRMED: Mu'amar #Gaddafi, leader of #Libya for 42 years, has been shot DEAD in vicinity of Rixos Hotel in #Tripoli. #FF

Malik Al Abdeh tweet

CONFIRMED: Mu'amar #Gaddafi, leader of #Libya for 42 years, has been shot DEAD in vicinity of Rixos Hotel in #Tripoli. #FF

Source is MalikAlAbdeh, Chief Editor of the Syrian pro-democracy satellite channel Barada TV.


From BBC quoting Al-Jazeera

Al-Jazeera TV is reporting that Col Muammar Gaddafi's personal security team have surrendered and disarmed.

If Gaddafi personal security team have surrendered, it's very possible Gaddafi is now dead...

#Libya #tripoli Libyan TV just stopped broadcasting.

efb

If the colonel is dead, where will I get my fried chicken now?

MitchKoobski

I'm calling it, next Modern Warfare game by Infinity Ward features tonight in Tripoli as a mission, possibly killing Gaddafi also.

hmmm

Biggins wrote: »

If true, there are international arrest warrants out for him so if he survives the next few days/weeks, we might yet see him eventually in a European court?

Possibly, if he has been captured I'd say he'll be lucky to be alive tomorrow.

Ibrahim the PR guy speaking now - another one who will be lucky to see the morning.

Lots of high ranking Gadaffi'ites appear to have gone to the Rixos, basically using journalists as shields.

efb

Eric Cartman wrote: »

were just pretending its the oval office

Are we ready for the photo for the world media?

Female to clasp her mouth in horror pls!

Biggins

hmmm wrote: »

...Ibrahim the PR guy speaking now - another one who will be lucky to see the morning.

Will be interesting to see how he spins this!
He better run into hiding in the next few hours.

Da Shins Kelly

Reports on Twitter that Gaddafi is dead, yo.

Peyton Manning

Riddle101 wrote: »

If I was America I'd send in the Navy Seals to take out Gadaffi now. F*ck waiting, just do it already. They know they want to.

Sounds so simple doesn't it?

Only if they fail, I'm guessing they dont get an option of "Mission Failed: Do you want to resume from last checkpoint?" which would probably be your highest level of expertise.

I reckon they know what they're doing, leave it to them eh?

prinz

aligator_am wrote: »

Fair point, but doesn't that reflect pretty poorly on the UN / NATO if they let Assad be but whack Gadaffi as it was the easy option?

It reflects even worse on the people who will take Assad's side giving him virtual immunity for any meaningful intervention.

aligator_am wrote: »

IMO I think Gadaffi ruffled plenty of feathers when he proposed a single African currency backed by gold, that likely got him to the top of the hit list.

I thought it was oil?

aligator_am

Biggins wrote: »

If true, there are international arrest warrants out for him so if he survives the next few days/weeks, we might yet see him eventually in a European court?

Just reminded, I wonder do the Swiss still have that arrest warrant for GW Bush? had forgotten all about it

Biggins

Gadaffi's news frontman is still spinning things - the poor fool.
Does he not know when to call it quits (and run)!

hmmm

Fantastic stuff from Ibrahim. Who was that guy in Baghdad who was telling reporters everything was fine as US tanks rolled past?

prinz

hmmm wrote: »

Fantastic stuff from Ibrahim. Who was that guy in Baghdad who was telling reporters everything was fine as US tanks rolled past?

Mohammed Saaed al-Sahaf wasn't it. Comical Ali. Sounds like Ibrahim was a student of his...

Biggins

aligator_am wrote: »

Just reminded, I wonder do the Swiss still have that arrest warrant for GW Bush? had forgotten all about it

As far as I know - as does another European country - which is why on one of his last trips he avoided those countries! LOL

Chuck Stone

mike65 wrote: »

Libya is a winnable war (everything that matters is within 30 miles of the coast), Syria is a much tougher nut to crack due to its location, its size and its neighbours.

I can't see how any person with a mildy critical mind would see NATO actions in Libya as having at least some dark motives.

Why isn't NATO backing the Bahrani protestors who were seeking reform from their government and were suppressed?

Why isn't NATO enforcing a no fly zone over Syria and knocking out their tanks and heavy artillery? That would be easily achieved by using the NATO base near the Syrian border.

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/europe/9808/20/turkey.base.strike/turkey.incirlik.jpg

Also if you take a look at foreign oil interests and then look at who's doing the bombing well look for yourself.

http://japanfocus.org/data/3504_4_ForeignOil.jpg

It will be interesting to see what kind of Libya (oil contracts) emerges after/when the fighting is finished.

Biggins

prinz wrote: »

Mohammed Saaed al-Sahaf wasn't it. Comical Ali. Sounds like Ibrahim was a student of his...

Aye, thats the chappie. Just listening to him - they could be related or went to the same school!

"Each side is terrified of the other side"
Ooops - someone forgot to tell the rebels this! LOL

hmmm

No way to know if anything on Twitter is true, but fun to watch nevertheless

"Wefaq #Libya: We have confirmed news that NATO will start bombing the walls of Bab Alazaziya v soon and have asked f fighters to stay back."

KevIRL

http://twitter.com/#!/MalikAlAbdeh

First to tweet this from on-ground sources and I can confirm: #GADDAFI IS DEAD. He was shot dead by #FF in #Tripoli. #Libya
19 minutes ago

prinz

Is he trying to use the comparisons to the London riots to get support?