Questions men dare not ask their doctor

CDfm

This article made me smile cos not every embaressing health question has to be about the love pump.

21 August 2011 Last updated at 01:13 GMT

Questions men dare not ask a doctor

By Tim Samuels Presenter, Men's Hour, BBC Radio 5 liveFigures suggest women are much more likely than men to visit a doctor. Even when they do, men can find it hard to talk about what's really ailing them. So what strange worries are on their mind?
Men are notorious for failing to open up about things that are bothering them. Particularly when their concerns are of a medical nature.
A survey by the Office for National Statistics found women were more likely than men to visit their GP regularly, and the Men's Health Forum also thinks men are becoming increasingly unlikely to visit a GP. With 17 years in medicine, Dr Mark Hamilton has first-hand experience of the medical matters that men struggle to talk about the most.
For the 60-Second Hypochondria slot on BBC Radio 5 live's Men's Hour, Dr Hamilton reveals some of the more unusual questions men have struggled to spit out to him - and gives his answers for those who have never been brave enough to ask.
"We offer an honest and accurate answer to practically any question a man can think of," said Dr Hamilton.
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Men can think of some weird and wonderful questions”

Dr Mark Hamilton
"And in my experience, men can think of some weird and wonderful questions. It still seems that they're a bit reluctant to visit the doctor for advice, so Men's Hour brings the doctor to them.
"The majority of my working life has been spent in the emergency department so I've been faced with dilemmas and questions covering almost any topic.
"Whether it's been busting an urban myth or challenging what some 'bloke down the pub' said, no question is too silly or trivial.
"Not every query has to be about sex or penis function, but that does still seem to make up the bulk of them as you'll see with the following selection."


How can I stop myself from sweating on a date?
There are actually specific shields designed for excessive sweating. If your antiperspirant isn't working, then aluminium chloride is special stuff you can get; ask your pharmacist about it. There are very specific instructions about using it but it is very good at cutting sweating. The psychological side of it is, try to relax. Don't feel the need to talk all the time, ask about her and be interested and that should relax you.
What's the best food to eat on a date to keep my energy up and stop her from falling asleep?
It's usually excessive alcohol that saps your energy. I think the best thing is to enjoy the food, don't worry about exactly what you choose. I recommend maybe a coffee at the end to keep your spirits up and a lovely romantic walk just to get the wind in your hair.
If I get shot, am I better off leaving the bullet in or trying to take it out?
Absolutely leave it in. You need to find yourself a friendly surgeon and an anaesthetist, because you could do a lot of potential damage to yourself.
Could a tight pair of swimming trunks worn all summer affect my reproductive chances?
Does what you slip on for a dip really affect your chances of fatherhood?
This is a common myth. If you increase the temperature in the scrotum it does decrease the quality of the semen, and there has been a bit of evidence to suggest that tight underwear can drop quality. But it hasn't actually been proven that it will affect fertility, so the jury is still out on this one.
What are the odds of my wife looking like her mother when she gets older - even though my wife is skinny but her mum is plump and jolly?
Genetics are very complicated. Even though you inherit half from your mum and half from your dad, it's not like a 50/50 chance. It depends on how those genes are expressed by the person. So if she expresses lots of her dad's genes she will look like her dad and if she expresses of lots her mum's genes she will look like her mum. You can't put an exact figure on it.
Could the nits on my child's head end up relocating to my pubic hair?
The nits are actually the eggs, so it's the lice that are the worry. The lice that live in the head are a completely a different species to the lice that live in the pubic hair. So I suppose it technically is possible but generally it's not seen in practice. You would have to have very close contact to share that - so no that wouldn't happen.
If I am fighting or running away what's that coppery taste I get in mouth?
Does spending a few pennies too many signify prostate troubles?
I've heard people talk about this being the taste of adrenaline because you do get a huge surge of adrenaline when you are fighting or running away - it's the fight or flight hormone. But I think it's actually more likely to be the taste of blood, which has a kind of iron or rusty taste, as you get microscopic bleeding when you are doing anything strenuous. You get this from inside the mouth or from the lungs.
Would circumcising my son reduce the overall length of his penis?
No, it wouldn't.
Is it possible to have a penis transplant?
Yes. The first penis transplant was done in China several years ago and it was deemed to be successful. However, it had to be removed after a few weeks because of what they described as a severe psychological reaction. I think he couldn't feel it and his wife thought it was a bit weird.
Should I be worried if I am weeing three times in the night?
That does sound like it's a little frequent and if you're a bloke this might point towards a possible problem with your prostate. So, go and have a chat with your GP.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14605886

It did get me thinking though what makes it so guys can't talk to their GP's and maybe its the GP's and not the men.

Like Erection sounds like a medical condition or scaffolding but with women they say breasts and not mamarries.

Forget all the machismo stuff , why cant they say Hard-On and why if I go to my doctor they dont have Hard On Health leaflets ??.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Could the nits on my child's head end up relocating to my pubic hair?

o.0

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

Like Erection sounds like a medical condition or scaffolding but with women they say breasts and not mamarries.

That's because it's the mammary glands within the breast that produce milk - their official title is not "mammaries"....and as with most things, Drs like sticking to official titles and exacting phraseology to try to ensure there is no ambiguity and they remain professional; certainly by avoiding play-ground terminology.

I don't think any Dr would object to male patients using other terms but I suspect Drs will stick to those that are professionally recognised.:cool:

GalwayKiefer

In my experience the only thing that men are usually reluctant to talk about is depression, I'd imagine because there's still a belief that it's a sign of "weakness" in a person.

As regards my own doctor at home -I'd a great professional relationship with him because he was able to call a spade a spade which made me more relaxed when dealing with him.

CDfm

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

That's because it's the mammary glands within the breast that produce milk - their official title is not "mammaries"....and as with most things, Drs like sticking to official titles and exacting phraseology to try to ensure there is no ambiguity and they remain professional; certainly by avoiding play-ground terminology.

I don't think any Dr would object to male patients using other terms but I suspect Drs will stick to those that are professionally recognised.:cool:

Ahem , are you suggesting I and other guys are immature :eek:

(Hiya Ickle )

So doctors say things like wenis, pink sock, loose stools and everyones favourite - prick . Very precise .

I can get the need to be precise between colleagues but also the need to communicate with and relax patients -which is where I think the gap is .

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

Ahem , are you suggesting I and other guys are immature :eek:

No no! The term, not the user!

CDfm wrote: »

(Hiya Ickle )

o/

CDfm wrote: »

So doctors say things like wenis, pink sock, loose stools and everyones favourite - prick . Very precise .

I can get the need to be precise between colleagues but also the need to communicate with and relax patients -which is where I think the gap is .

I've never heard a doctor say wenis, pink sock or prick - not in a professional capacity anyway! Loose stool is again a recognised term that isn't a pet name or bar-room slang (that better than the play-ground analogy?!).

MitchKoobski

"Is it possible to have a penis transplant?"

I can honestly say I've never wanted to ask this.

CDfm

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I've never heard a doctor say wenis, pink sock or prick -.

Well I believe those terms are in common use , so why not hard -on ?

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

Well I believe those terms are in common use , so why not hard -on ?

Why not indeed, I guess it's down to the individual doctor - and they have to gauge the kind of language their patient wants them/expects them to use as a medical professional and keeping in mind they are a representative of a particular medical practice...you might want your doctor to say hard-on, I'd hate for my doctor to say tits, for instance. So, I would hope doctors would work on a case-by-case basis but I'm just saying I'm not at all surprised that the default is not slang terminology when in a professional capacity... :cool:

CDfm

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

...you might want your doctor to say hard-on, I'd hate for my doctor to say tits, for instance.

OK , my wenis is itchy *.

I totally agree with you and medical service delivery may be great for women but perhaps doesn't reach the spot for guys.

My GP is great, she is a bit of a fluffy and said to me once that she had a waiting room of women and babies and "you". So sense of humour wise we get on great and 3 years on I am totally comfortable.







* wenis is the skin on your elbow.

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

OK , my wenis is itchy *.

You should see a Dr about that...

okay, okay, gotcha now...

CDfm

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I hardly think my preference for not using bar-room slang for my intimate body parts equates to a great medical service delivery for an entire gender...and for the record my husband would prefer his doctor didn't use slang terminology as well, so I was really approaching it from the perspective that not all men want their doctors to use other terms.

I don't think slang is the issue but communication

I don't get that joke...

I wonder if its because she explains things and if I was female she would not need to.

Just rapport. She worked in Aus for a few years part of it in a men's clinic and maybe thats why.

I love my doc too ...............to use bar-room terminology when dealing with all members of the general public.

I am educated and really just plucked a term out of the air but if bar room language is all that is understood by male patients well ..........

EDIT - well Ickle are ya really sure I'm not immature

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

EDIT - well Ickle are ya really sure I'm not immature

I'm pleading the fifth.

yawha

I think I'd get up and leave the surgery if my doctor used the term "hard-on". I want my doctor to be professional and mature, thanks.

CDfm

yawha wrote: »

I think I'd get up and leave the surgery if my doctor used the term "hard-on". I want my doctor to be professional and mature, thanks.

OK - back to serious.

I want my doctor to be able to effectively communicate with me and vice versa.

And, I don't want health information campaigns to be beyond mine or other mens comprehension.

So if guys are embarressed whats causing it and what might fix it.

John Hartson the footballer and cancer survivor had a brain operation after his late diagnosed testicular cancer gave him brain cancer. So this issue can cost lives. So thats.

irishh_bob

GalKiefer wrote: »

In my experience the only thing that men are usually reluctant to talk about is depression, I'd imagine because there's still a belief that it's a sign of "weakness" in a person.

As regards my own doctor at home -I'd a great professional relationship with him because he was able to call a spade a spade which made me more relaxed when dealing with him.

depression does stem from weakness , those who have it ( myself included ) were unable to keep it at bay , we gave up the battle , its un pc to say it but depression is an afliction of the emotionally fragile

CDfm

irishh_bob wrote: »

depression does stem from weakness , those who have it ( myself included ) were unable to keep it at bay , we gave up the battle , its un pc to say it but depression is an afliction of the emotionally fragile

Fair ****s to you for posting on it.

So communication with a GP is up there to you.

We are all fairly well educated here but and we are posting from a point of view that we can access what we need but that hardly applies to everyone like those who are functuinally illiterate approx 25% of the population.

Its not me who wrote the article in the OP about the barriers to communication.

There's this great book called "Why Do Men Have Nipples: Hundreds of Questions You'd Only Ask a Doctor After Your Third Martini" which is a lot like this. Some very strange questions in there!

CDfm

Deleted User wrote: »

There's this great book called "Why Do Men Have Nipples: Hundreds of Questions You'd Only Ask a Doctor After Your Third Martini" which is a lot like this. Some very strange questions in there!

So if you had to pick a good one , what would it be ????

CdeC

irishh_bob wrote: »

depression does stem from weakness , those who have it ( myself included ) were unable to keep it at bay , we gave up the battle , its un pc to say it but depression is an afliction of the emotionally fragile

I disagree, many situations can bring on depression. I would say a sign of weakness is when you do nothing about it and try and bottle it up.
Everyone has problems and difficulties but not everyone has a strong support network around them.

irishh_bob

CdeC wrote: »

I disagree, many situations can bring on depression. I would say a sign of weakness is when you do nothing about it and try and bottle it up.
Everyone has problems and difficulties but not everyone has a strong support network around them.

what if you have tried doing something about it any nothing works but you find you havent the bottle to end it , how can that be described as anything but weakness

28064212

CDfm wrote: »

Like Erection sounds like a medical condition or scaffolding but with women they say breasts and not mamarries.

As Ickle pointed out, breasts are the technical term. Vulva sounds like a car model, vagina like a recipe, and labia like a... I have no idea, but those are all terms doctors would use with women.

There are many faults in Men's Health at the moment, but terminology is the very least of them

28064212

irishh_bob wrote: »

depression does stem from weakness , those who have it ( myself included ) were unable to keep it at bay , we gave up the battle , its un pc to say it but depression is an afliction of the emotionally fragile

Clinical depression falls into the same category of mental disorders as Alzheimer's and Schizophrenia, would you call sufferers of those weak and emotionally fragile as well?

CDfm

28064212 wrote: »

There are many faults in Men's Health at the moment, but terminology is the very least of them

It was Tim Samuels the Radio Presenter and Dr Mark Hamilton that wrote the article and they say that men are embaressed.

Do you agree or disagree.

I teased Ickle because I post with her sometimes and enjoyed the banter, but, there is a serious side and that is that men are shyer than women in discussing their bodies.

Why is that?

28064212

CDfm wrote: »

It was Tim Samuels the Radio Presenter and Dr Mark Hamilton that wrote the article and they say that men are embaressed.

Do you agree or disagree.

Agree.

Where is there any mention that men are embarrassed because of the terminology? As far as I can see, you were the only one who raised that point, and that is what I'm disagreeing with

CDfm

28064212 wrote: »

Where is there any mention that men are embarrassed because of the terminology? As far as I can see, you were the only one who raised that point, and that is what I'm disagreeing with

OK, thats allowed,I am saying embarressment and ignorance (vocabulary and health education) are big factors , what reason's do you think.

I am reasonably interlligient (Ickle may disagree ) and I am describing myself here too.

irishh_bob

28064212 wrote: »

Clinical depression falls into the same category of mental disorders as Alzheimer's and Schizophrenia, would you call sufferers of those weak and emotionally fragile as well?

thier are many schools of thought when it comes to depression , all i know is that i sensed depression was at the gate over a decade ago but instead of taking the correct steps , surrendered , the dignified thing to do when that happens is to end it but i decided to live on my knees instead , depression is punishment for not having the guts to kill yourself when your life falls apart , i firmly believe that

gargleblaster

irishh_bob wrote: »

thier are many schools of thought when it comes to depression , all i know is that i sensed depression was at the gate over a decade ago but instead of taking the correct steps , surrendered , the dignified thing to do when that happens is to end it but i decided to live on my knees instead , depression is punishment for not having the guts to kill yourself when your life falls apart , i firmly believe that

I'm sorry that you feel that way, because although you may believe it, it is 100% incorrect. It's not a punishment of any sort. It's a result of either a chemical imbalance in the brain, or a temporary stumbling block that can be brought on by various crises that many people could face over the course of their lives. Through medication or counseling most people can either get entirely past the depression or at least develop tools to make depressive episodes less severe and shorter in duration.

Good luck to you.

irishh_bob

gargleblaster wrote: »

I'm sorry that you feel that way, because although you may believe it, it is 100% incorrect. It's not a punishment of any sort. It's a result of either a chemical imbalance in the brain, or a temporary stumbling block that can be brought on by various crises that many people could face over the course of their lives. Through medication or counseling most people can either get entirely past the depression or at least develop tools to make depressive episodes less severe and shorter in duration.

Good luck to you.

going on 13 years since an event triggered my depression , never gone a day without it since , should have dealt with it like a man from the start , i cant complain , the universe doesnt require you to be happy

Ickle Magoo

CDfm wrote: »

OK, thats allowed,I am saying embarressment and ignorance (vocabulary and health education) are big factors , what reason's do you think.

I am reasonably interlligient (Ickle may disagree ) and I am describing myself here too.

I agree that embarrassment is a factor but in my experience that is usually down to men feeling they shouldn't be going to a doctors at all or to do so unless they really are on deaths door is somehow emasculating - and the biggest culprits I've witnessed in ribbing men about taking better care of themselves in general has been other men; man flu jibes aside.

Until you posted, I've never previously heard any man complain that he doesn't want a prostate exam or a lump on his testicles investigated because the doctor won't dumb down the consultation.

CDfm

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Until you posted, I've never previously heard any man complain that he doesn't want a prostate exam or a lump on his testicles investigated because the doctor won't dumb down the consultation.

Last year - a female colleague's Dad died of prostate cancer - neither her husband or any of her 5 brothers knew what had caused his death or how to go about getting tested etc . Another guy in my social circle died of testicular cancer -inoperable - died 10 weeks from diagnosis.

Add fear and ignorance together.

I am not too far off that level of ignorance.

gargleblaster

irishh_bob wrote: »

going on 13 years since an event triggered my depression , never gone a day without it since , should have dealt with it like a man from the start , i cant complain , the universe doesnt require you to be happy

No, it doesn't. But you only get one go. Might as well try to make the best of it, right? I don't know what you think you did to deserve 13 years of punishment, but I imagine whtever it was, 13 years is enough. Sorry, I don't mean to nag. It does make me sad, though, knowing that other people have this pain and think they deserve it. I have struggled with the same feelings and I wish you'd believe me, it's simply not true - nobody deserves that kind of pain. (Ok maybe some people do, but I sincerely doubt you're a mass murderer or someone like that.)

Again, best of luck to you.

Ickle Magoo

Are you trying to say these men don't know where there doctors are, CDfm? Don't know how to examine themselves? This has nothing to do with the language a doctor uses - as I said, getting men in the door is the biggest hurdle and I just don't think that a dr saying erection rather than hard-on is the issue - it's a general ignorance about health matters and a woeful lack of personal responsibility with regards to maintaining ones health.

Take my dad for example, he called me one morning to complain he was off to the doc's as last night he'd found he couldn't move one side of his body...I was horrified;
"Why the hell didn't you call an ambulance, Dad?!"
"Oh, I don't want to bother them, they have bigger and better things to be dealing with".

The paralysis had gone by morning but at my mothers insistence called his GP to ask for advice - who thankfully sent him immediately to the nearest Neurology Dept who confirmed he'd had a mini-stroke. It wasn't language or terminology that was the problem, the issue was it took his daughter and wife to convince him that just because he wasn't keeling over, that didn't mean he was okay - and my father is an extremely intelligent man - it's not an issue with terminology for him, it's an archaic mindset. :rolleyes:

CDfm

All I am saying is these men got diagnosed too late. That one of them has 5 sons between 35 and 50 who are at risk and didn't know anything says something.

So do we have blissfull ignorance or fear and embaressment.

I spotted this survey in the stickies and its worth supporting

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056357816

And Ickle -good story about your Dad and a friends Dad did the same a few years back. A light drinker he was spotted in the toilet of his local pub having trouble producing percy for the porcelain and if someone hadn't spotted it he would not have gone to hospital. True story.

ballsymchugh

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Why not indeed, I guess it's down to the individual doctor - and they have to gauge the kind of language their patient wants them/expects them to use as a medical professional and keeping in mind they are a representative of a particular medical practice...you might want your doctor to say hard-on, I'd hate for my doctor to say tits, for instance. So, I would hope doctors would work on a case-by-case basis but I'm just saying I'm not at all surprised that the default is not slang terminology when in a professional capacity... :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOtbyAHEm8Q

15 seconds in, first thing i thought of!!

Ickle Magoo

Yep, that survey is going up tLL as soon as the one about male victims of domestic abuse has run.

CDfm wrote:

All I am saying is these men got diagnosed too late. That one of them has 5 sons between 35 and 50 who are at risk and didn't know anything says something.

So do we have blissfull ignorance or fear and embaressment.

Does it really matter which? Either way the result is the same; causing pain and misery to the individual and their family. I think there needs to be more resources put into men's health matters, especially on breaking down the "real men don't go running to the doc's every five minute" type guff into the reality that ignorance can and does cost lives.

CDfm

Ya don't mean men would be afraid of this

irishh_bob

gargleblaster wrote: »

No, it doesn't. But you only get one go. Might as well try to make the best of it, right? I don't know what you think you did to deserve 13 years of punishment, but I imagine whtever it was, 13 years is enough. Sorry, I don't mean to nag. It does make me sad, though, knowing that other people have this pain and think they deserve it. I have struggled with the same feelings and I wish you'd believe me, it's simply not true - nobody deserves that kind of pain. (Ok maybe some people do, but I sincerely doubt you're a mass murderer or someone like that.)

Again, best of luck to you.

when i say i deserve it , i meant i was too weak to both keep it at bay and deal with its arrival

i didnt do anything to cause it in the first place , was a victim of viscious bullying in the workplace while overseas as a very young man , have recently recieved information which should help me find the person who caused this life changing affliction , one thing is sure im not leaving this world without my perpetrator knowing something about it

Ickle Magoo

irishh_bob wrote: »

when i say i deserve it , i meant i was too weak to both keep it at bay and deal with its arrival

What kind of strength would have done that? I'd consider myself a pretty strong/strong-willed person and yet I was absolutely floored by post-natal depression. Thinking became a major effort - and not out of weakness or laziness but because whatever chemistry my brain had up to then had suddenly gone hay-wire and every decision felt like mentally wading through a bowl of mildly soggy weetabix.

As I'm sure you are only too well aware, it's horribly disheartening and fairly terrifying to find your normal reactions and judgements impaired to that degree but seriously irishh_bob, it's nothing to do with any perceived weakness of personality...and while the universe may not require that you be happy; you deserve to feel you have a worthwhile existence in which your living is making a positive contribution to mankind/the universe/etc.

irishh_bob

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

What kind of strength would have done that? I'd consider myself a pretty strong/strong-willed person and yet I was absolutely floored by post-natal depression. Thinking became a major effort - and not out of weakness or laziness but because whatever chemistry my brain had up to then had suddenly gone hay-wire and every decision felt like mentally wading through a bowl of mildly soggy weetabix.

As I'm sure you are only too well aware, it's horribly disheartening and fairly terrifying to find your normal reactions and judgements impaired to that degree but seriously irishh_bob, it's nothing to do with any perceived weakness of personality...and while the universe may not require that you be happy; you deserve to feel you have a worthwhile existence in which your living is making a positive contribution to mankind/the universe/etc.

im completley insignificant in the grand scheme of things , depression robs you of the arrogance that convinced you that you deserve great success or rewards in life , it changes your outlook in such a profound way that the person you once knew is dead and gone , thats why so many people commit suicide , they cant live with the loss of the self

Sonics2k

irishh_bob wrote: »

im completley insignificant in the grand scheme of things , depression robs you of the arrogance that convinced you that you deserve great success or rewards in life , it changes your outlook in such a profound way that the person you once knew is dead and gone , thats why so many people commit suicide , they cant live with the loss of the self

I'm going to be 100% blunt here.

You need to get some help dude.
I've dealt with depression since I was 13, and various other issues, and have felt like you do, and honestly from time to time still do.

I'm not necessarily talking about seeing a therapist, or taking medication, neither worked for me. Instead find a way of releasing the pain and stress you feel. And I don't just mean writing poetry in a darkened room listening to N.I.N.

Exercise can be of incredible help to people with depression, it helps you feel good, releases endorphins and exerts stress and tension from the body. It can also help if you have any body issues that may contribute to the depression.

Do a FAS course. Even a brief course at FAS in any subject of interest will be of help to you. It will give your mind something to focus on and work towards. Hell, you may even come out of it with some new friends.

The worst thing you can do with depression is sit around and feel sorry for yourself. The vast majority of people are insignificant on the grand scale, but that does not you mean have to insignificant in yourself and your life.

Otis Driftwood

Folks,can we keep on topic please.If IB wants to discuss depression Ive already told him that he is more than welcome to start a thread on the subject.

Cheers,
OD.

irishh_bob

Sonics2k wrote: »

I'm going to be 100% blunt here.

You need to get some help dude.
I've dealt with depression since I was 13, and various other issues, and have felt like you do, and honestly from time to time still do.

I'm not necessarily talking about seeing a therapist, or taking medication, neither worked for me. Instead find a way of releasing the pain and stress you feel. And I don't just mean writing poetry in a darkened room listening to N.I.N.

Exercise can be of incredible help to people with depression, it helps you feel good, releases endorphins and exerts stress and tension from the body. It can also help if you have any body issues that may contribute to the depression.

Do a FAS course. Even a brief course at FAS in any subject of interest will be of help to you. It will give your mind something to focus on and work towards. Hell, you may even come out of it with some new friends.

The worst thing you can do with depression is sit around and feel sorry for yourself. The vast majority of people are insignificant on the grand scale, but that does not you mean have to insignificant in yourself and your life.

this is the last post i send on this thread so ( please mr mod ) dont bin me

i am in employment , its not like i lay in bed all day or anything like that or have a substance addiction but i cannot kick depression , ive tried all sorts of things , take holidays once a year , the usual stuff , doesnt make any difference , all im saying is that depression kills a part of you and unless your willing to deal with the problem like a man , you cant expect things to ever be the same again , some people can live with the change - loss , some cant , such is life , sorry for the whinge everyone , its undignified and obnoxious

CDfm

I am the OP here - why not take Otis up on his offer and start a depression thread and I am sure he can just move your posts and the replies over to it to save you starting a new thread. I am sure Otis and the other mods would not have made the offer lightly.

The thread was meant to be a slightly irreverant look on why guys dont go to doctors and I am sure your story on depression is more specialised and depression needs its own thread.

Cicero

CDfm wrote: »

OK - back to serious.

I want my doctor to be able to effectively communicate with me and vice versa.

And, I don't want health information campaigns to be beyond mine or other mens comprehension.

So if guys are embarressed whats causing it and what might fix it.

Hey CD
...one of my doctors used to smoke a cig while consulting with me.....(in fairness he was dying of cancer at the time & I was a smoker )...AND he was encouraging me to give up...:p...that was a good 12 years ago but not that long ago...

..point of mentioning the above story is that even back then I could talk frankly with my Doc...I think modern GP's are just brilliant though...they have embraced technology, are very worldly on issues and concerns of patients and even though they're swamped busy, they do take the time....any guys reading this post and are worried about going to their GP- don't be....just go..

CDfm

Cicero wrote: »

......any guys reading this post and are worried about going to their GP- don't be....just go..

hey Cicero - how goes it.

One of my close friends went to his doc about watching too much porn on-line. He just could not stop. Doc goes "You use _____ , you gotta go to XXX site so much better"

True story that - I know both of them.

Cicero

CDfm wrote: »

hey Cicero - how goes it.

One of my close friends went to his doc about watching too much porn on-line. He just could not stop. Doc goes "You use _____ , you gotta go to XXX site so much better"

True story that - I know both of them.

..when I mentioned technology...I didn't mean that!!!!..research man...medical research.....

*yes I know.. I know...that's what you're friend said*!:p

CDfm

Cicero wrote: »

..when I mentioned technology...I didn't mean that!!!!..research man...medical research.....

Oh dear.