Here is a FASCINATING ARTICLE about Antartica!!

Dude111

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel17.htm

When they sent a balloon with a meter that had the date,etc up into this cloud of FOG,THE CLOCK WENT BACK EXACTLY 30 YEARS WHEN THEY PULLED IT BACK!!

They should have sent a HUMAN up with the ballon!! (THIS MAY BE A TIME DOORWAY AND THATS WHY THE BALLOON DISSAPEARED (IT WENT BACK 30 YEARS!!))

What do others think??

maccored

hang on - are you saying that just because the details on the instruments had an incorrect date that everything went 30 years into the past? Wouldnt it more reasonably be explained by equipment failure?

maccored

plus, do a google on US physicist Mariann McLein. The only time you find that name is in reference to that article ....... makes it all the more suspicious (and likely made up)

stormkeeper

Time slip phenomena are interesting, and indeed an interest of mine but I find it hard to believe that the internal clock could go back 30 years... just like that.

maccored

timeslips could well happen, if you consider how some theoretical physicists have suggested that time - going along with the whole space/time idea - should have at least three dimensions, like space does. they have put forward the idea that past, present and future all exist in the same place (like the three dimensions of space all exist in the one place). If you ask me, that makes timeslips (and even encounters with what we class as 'ghosts') scientifically possible.

It wouldnt though, send the clock time back 30 years.

Antikythera

stormkeeper wrote: »

Time slip phenomena are interesting, and indeed an interest of mine

I find it hard to believe that the internal clock could go back 30 years

Not even if timeslip phenomena are interesting and are, indeed, an interest of yours?

maccored wrote: »

timeslips could well happen.....It wouldnt though, send the clock time back 30 years.

So whilst you find one crackpot theory acceptable, you find another preposterous?

Why can't you people make your minds up as to what's ridiculous and what's not?

Oryx

You people? I didn't realise there was one clearly defined type of person posting here. Antikythera if you find theories preposterous then actually say why instead of derailing the thread with snide remarks.

kylith

Whilst it is possible that Time Slips may be theoretically possible it's much more likely that the chronometer was faulty.

stormkeeper

Antikythera wrote: »

Not even if timeslip phenomena are interesting and are, indeed, an interest of yours?

I do find them to be interesting, but I can't see how the internal chronometer could have jumped back 30 years, given it's a simple device... we're not at the stage yet where a device can tell (either us or itself) what time period it's located in, so while I do think time slip phenomena are possible, I pretty much think the chronometer had to be faulty in some way. Anyway, if such a thing were remarkable, it'd be seen in more than one or two places.

Just because I believe in the paranormal doesn't mean I'm not going to look at stuff with a critical eye... I still have a scientific leaning even if I am a believer.

longshanks

If the time was thirty years behind due to the clock travelling back thirty years, should it not have returned to normal when the clock came forward to the present again?

Monty Burnz

That 'article' is clearly, clearly nonsense - but what I don't understand is the motivation someone had for writing it. If they wanted to write a 'mystery tale', why not do that? Why pretend it's a genuine story - to catch out the gullible?

stormkeeper

longshanks wrote: »

If the time was thirty years behind due to the clock travelling back thirty years, should it not have returned to normal when the clock came forward to the present again?

Well, there's that consideration too... but I'd have thought a chronometer couldn't perceive a time slip like a person could, due to its relatively basic mechanics.

maccored

Antikythera wrote: »

So whilst you find one crackpot theory acceptable, you find another preposterous?

Why can't you people make your minds up as to what's ridiculous and what's not?

timeslips arent a crackpot theory. "Why can't you people .." look to scientific thinking and see that theres quite a lot of similarities in some outlooks in theoretical physics and the paranormal.

anyway, if you actually read my post, you wouldnt have asked that question

Dude111

kylith wrote:

Whilst it is possible that Time Slips may be theoretically possible it's much more likely that the chronometer was faulty.

They said it was in GOOD REPAIR!!!!!!

Its quite interesting

kylith

Dude111 wrote: »

They said it was in GOOD REPAIR!!!!!!

Its quite interesting

Of course they say that, they're trying to sell a story. No ghost story ever starts 'I was walking home from the pub after a few jars...' and no-one who wants to sell the theory of time slips is going to admit the chronometer was faulty, or they'd wired it so it was running backwards.

Reading the article I believe that when the chronometer was set it was probably set to 1965 by accident and due to a 6 looking similar to a 9 (the event happened in 1995) it wasn't noticed until the balloon was brought back down.

Monty Burnz

People want to believe this **** so much that they suspend their brains and don't ask the most obvious questions. How come there's no record of this astonishing happening anywhere, or any record of the only named person in the 'article'?

It's a stupid story someone made up. As I said, the real mystery is why they made it up.

Dude111

They tend to keep stories like this hush hush i have noticed......

Monty Burnz

Dude111 wrote: »

They tend to keep stories like this hush hush i have noticed......

The ones that are totally made up? Yeah, they do for some reason. :rolleyes:

meryem

kylith wrote: »

Of course they say that, they're trying to sell a story. No ghost story ever starts 'I was walking home from the pub after a few jars...' and no-one who wants to sell the theory of time slips is going to admit the chronometer was faulty, or they'd wired it so it was running backwards.

Reading the article I believe that when the chronometer was set it was probably set to 1965 by accident and due to a 6 looking similar to a 9 (the event happened in 1995) it wasn't noticed until the balloon was brought back down.

Doing such acts can put a research team in severe problems, especially when it is supposed to be reported to White House and other higher authorities with strong scientific know how and reasoning minds like FBI and CIA.

If you have read the article it says they repeated the experiment to confirm their belief/finding. But after going through your post I am considering one point right about now is it might be possible that their must be some ionic/magnetic or something like that affect in that spinning gray fog which might have made spin or something like that to happen with date showing figures to 1965 from 1995 repeatedly. Otherwise that chronometer would have got into present time when it got back on earth.

I don't think chronometer can be a reliable time travel machine especially when it didn't returned back to present time when it came back to earth.

Coriolanus

Even if it was a time slip why would the clock go backwards? I would have presumed that the clocks on such devices would just keep ticking, it's a mechanical device not one of the ones that checks itself off of the gps system presumably?

maccored

i asked that in the previous page - which kinda deflats kylith's argument that "and no-one who wants to sell the theory of time slips is going to admit the chronometer was faulty" considering I do think time slips are possible - but in this instance i'd say its faulty equipment (oh hang on, I made that point earlier too) - thats if the story is true in the first place (google isnt too fond of it)

zyzygy

The story is nonsense. Anyway,the only time that you have to put your watch back thirty years is when you visit the Isle Of Wight.

maccored

try googling that story or anyone mentioned in it. All you get is mroe versions of the same story, so it's certainly fake.

zyzygy

kylith wrote: »

Whilst it is possible that Time Slips may be theoretically possible it's much more likely that the chronometer was faulty.

Which theory would this be?

kylith

zyzygy wrote: »

Which theory would this be?

No particular theory that I know of, to be honest. I just said that they may be possible, in theory, though I should more rightly say hypothetically.

The theory of relativity tells us that travelling at great speed would result in time dilation, which would result in those travelling appear to an observer to be almost static in time, while to the travellers time outside the vessel appears to be travelling incredibly fast. Stephen Hawking has said that he believes that there's nothing to preclude the possibility of time travel. However current understanding is that travelling backwards in time is impossible.

Dude111

Monty Burnz wrote:

The ones that are totally made up? Yeah, they do for some reason. :rolleyes:

What if it isnt though mate,WHAT IF IT WAS REAL??

meryem

To me it looks a case of investigation not to be ignored altogether. It might fill us with new invention to advance our techniques. :rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Dude111 wrote: »

What if it isnt though mate,WHAT IF IT WAS REAL??

It's not real. I could answer your question in the same way I would if you said to me "what if storks really delivered babies to their parents?"

The answer would be 'crikey'.

But it's not real, is it? It's a work of poor fiction a child could see through.

HTH

Nabber

What a waste of time.

Why would the clock readings go back?

Monty Burnz

Nabber wrote: »

What a waste of time.

Why would the clock readings go back?

Magic. It's real!

omen80

I'd like to know how old the clock was......if it was less than 30 years old then the date should never have gone back that far as the clock would not have ever displayed it in the first place.
Either way, it sounds so made up.

Monty Burnz

omen80 wrote: »

I'd like to know how old the clock was......if it was less than 30 years old then the date should never have gone back that far as the clock would not have ever displayed it in the first place.
Either way, it sounds so made up.

Don't worry, it is.

mcmoustache

Monty Burnz wrote: »

That 'article' is clearly, clearly nonsense - but what I don't understand is the motivation someone had for writing it. If they wanted to write a 'mystery tale', why not do that? Why pretend it's a genuine story - to catch out the gullible?

Something like that. I'm convinced that a lot or paranormal and CT stuff is made up by skeptics like myself for a laugh. No matter how daft or illogical a theory is, it will always have believers. Some people want to see just how much people will believe and they keep pushing the envelope. Remember, CT's in the 50's were mainly concerned with the government and UFOs. Now, it's atlantis and lizard people.

It's trolling, only cooler.