What subjects are doable in a year to repeat the LC?

Mysteriouschic

My results weren't the best. I'm gonna keep geography , maths ,business and English and pick up 2 new subjects I'm dropping my other two I'm not that good at them.


I'm thinking of taking up economics , classical studies or accounting.
My mum is really against me doing economics though. But I heard it's a short course and doable in a year. I like business too.

I did the business for the junior higher level and know a little how to do the balance sheets and trade profit and the budget a few of the others. I found it hard but maybe with practice I could do it. But I'm not great at maths , my mum wants me to do that I'd rather do economics.

Classical Studies looks interesting I heard you have to read lots of books , and I'm quite good at english.
I'd want t take them up as honours the most ordinary subjects I'll have is two. Maths and English but you can't do english in a 1 year higher level.

How hard is repeating?Is it easy to stay motivated?

Liveit

What results did you get in each subject?

I did economics, you really need to be the type of person who would listen with interest to all news on inflation/deflation/banking crisis/ECB/imports/exports to get on any bit fair in it.

If you are going repeating then don't do it in the same school or else you will get lazy........and yes you will get lazy

Mysteriouschic

Liveit wrote: »

What results did you get in each subject?

I did economics, you really need to be the type of person who would listen with interest to all news on inflation/deflation/banking crisis/ECB/imports/exports to get on any bit fair in it.

If you are going repeating then don't do it in the same school or else you will get lazy........and yes you will get lazy

I think I'm going to rathmines hopefully.

I got B3 English ordinary (I had the ability to do higher) I just dropped down
D2/D3 in the others business higher and geography higher and failed maths. So I really need the repeat.

I'm not sure if I'm the type to listen to all of that I could start. Is it very detailed like a lot of theory?

melekalikimaka

i repeated, took on classical studies and wiped the floor with it, its shockingly easy, had the course done by feb, not alot of reading to be fair...

People say Economics but judging by results here it seems quite difficult to get an A in, iirc it has one of the lowest A % out of exams taken.

Mysteriouschic

melekalikimaka wrote: »

i repeated, took on classical studies and wiped the floor with it, its shockingly easy, had the course done by feb, not alot of reading to be fair...

Oh everyone says theres loads of book to read. Do you like need to write essays on them?

Wonderstruck

AdamD wrote: »

People say Economics but judging by results here it seems quite difficult to get an A in, iirc it has one of the lowest A % out of exams taken.

True but a B or C for a year's work isn't too bad.

I did Economics in two years though I think it's more than possible to do the course well in one. For me I felt everything 'clicked' at the end of the 6th year and I was like: 'I get this! ', so I couldn't of really done it in a year.

If you like watching the news/Vincent Brown etc. you'd like it.

There's also almost no maths in it (plugging stuff into formulae, and the usual dividing, multiplying, subtracting adding, nothing scary if you know what the question's asking ya)

A lot of the grinds schools seem to cover Ag Science in a year (as far as I can tell), but as I've never done the subject or really know anyone who did it. I don't know enough about it to say if that's feasible in a year - as it has coursework and stuff. (I have so much knowledge, eh? :pac:)

dambarude

I know people who did Ag Science in a year (only started in October). One of them got an A1.

Wonderstruck

Wonderstruck wrote: »

True but a B or C for a year's work isn't too bad.

I did Economics in two years though I think it's more than possible to do the course well in one. For me I felt everything 'clicked' at the end of the 6th year and I was like: 'I get this! ', so I couldn't of really done it in a year.

If you like watching the news/Vincent Brown etc. you'd like it.

There's also almost no maths in it (plugging stuff into formulae, and the usual dividing, multiplying, subtracting adding, nothing scary if you know what the question's asking ya)

A lot of the grinds schools seem to cover Ag Science in a year (as far as I can tell), but as I've never done the subject or really know anyone who did well. I don't know enough about it to say if that's feasible in a year - as it has coursework and stuff. (I have so much knowledge, eh? :pac:)

Maybe I'm just bitter cause I wanted an A and got a B2

Mysteriouschic

Wonderstruck wrote: »

True but a B or C for a year's work isn't too bad.

I did Economics in two years though I think it's more than possible to do the course well in one. For me I felt everything 'clicked' at the end of the 6th year and I was like: 'I get this! ', so I couldn't of really done it in a year.

If you like watching the news/Vincent Brown etc. you'd like it.

There's also almost no maths in it (plugging stuff into formulae, and the usual dividing, multiplying, subtracting adding, nothing scary if you know what the question's asking ya)

A lot of the grinds schools seem to cover Ag Science in a year (as far as I can tell), but as I've never done the subject or really know anyone who did well. I don't know enough about it to say if that's feasible in a year - as it has coursework and stuff. (I have so much knowledge, eh? :pac:)

I've never tried watching that I would if it was useful. I watch the news occasionally. Rathmines doesn't have ag science I'd have to take that up outside or something. Is there a lot of theory in it?

bluecatmorgana

Business is easy, can definitely be done in a year and get an A. Theres hardly any maths in it and no accounting.

Classical Studies is grand, nice if you like stories. But you do have to write a lot of essays in the exam. More of a subject to do if you are good at history leaving cert.

If I was picking the best for points I would go geography, business, biology. All good learners, straight forward and can be done in a year.

Mysteriouschic

bluecatmorgana wrote: »

Business is easy, can definitely be done in a year and get an A. Theres hardly any maths in it and no accounting.

Classical Studies is grand, nice if you like stories. But you do have to write a lot of essays in the exam. More of a subject to do if you are good at history leaving cert.

If I was picking the best for points I would go geography, business, biology. All good learners, straight forward and can be done in a year.

I'm good at essays and I didn't do history in the lc. I'm keeping the geography and business probably pick classics not sure between economics and accounting I'm not the best at maths but I've done a bit of it in the jc. But there'd be all the formulas to learn .

8-10

Business, Economics, Biology, Geography, Home Economics, Classics all doable.

I repeated a few years ago and did Economics, Geography and Economic History in a year. Not sure if Ec. History is still a subject? Got an A2 in it repeating, very easy. Economics is also very very easy to get a good honours score in. Geography and Biology are bigger in terms of syllabus but put the work in and you can do it.

kate.m

I love classics. Straight a1 student. Took extra classes.

Yet i get a B1 today.
Shocked.

Always heard the markers of classics could be random. It's true. =\ keep that in mind!

Mysteriouschic

I think I'll do classics it's just the other subject now.

irish_man

I did Biology in a year and got an A2, so it's well doable in a 9-10 month period.

bm1993

I did the three business subjects and economics and business are definitely doable in 1 year but I wouldn't advise doing accounting

Liveit

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

I think I'm going to rathmines hopefully.

I got B3 English ordinary (I had the ability to do higher) I just dropped down
D2/D3 in the others business higher and geography higher and failed maths. So I really need the repeat.

I'm not sure if I'm the type to listen to all of that I could start. Is it very detailed like a lot of theory?

I don't know if rathmines is different to where you went last year but I am assuming it is

Well it's easy to say you were able for HL english but you only got a B3 after two years, it may be a new course in one year next year?

Was it OL or HL maths you failed?

Well pick up the sunday newspaper and go to the business section and see if you find it interesting.
There is a fair amount of theory, the exam is about applying what you learned to situations more than straight learning a paragraph and spit it out onto the page.

Like another poster said, biology might be a good choice

Extrasupervery

Not economics! It may, just may melt your head. I'd suggest business if you're heading in that route.

milosh

I teach all three Leaving Cert Business Subjects in my school. I take regular 5th and 6th Year classes in Accounting and Business and teach Economics as an extra subject for 1 hour per week to 6th Years (2 hours per week after the mocks).

Accounting is not doable in 1 year in any circumstance. Business and Economics are both achievable. Business is an easier subject than economics but is a much longer course. Economics is without doubt the shortest Leaving Cert course and probably has most choice (4 out of 8 questions with 3 from guaranteed topics). The language is more difficult and the concepts more complex but the idea that you must keep up to date with news and statistics is rubbish. You need to know 5 current statistical figures for the exam. You will need some teacher help with economics though as there are some tricky topics.

For the record, I had 21 students doing economics this year. All 21 got a C or better and every one of them counted it for points. Most also do business (6 classes per week) and the business results were marginally better on average.

Mysteriouschic

Liveit wrote: »

I don't know if rathmines is different to where you went last year but I am assuming it is

Well it's easy to say you were able for HL english but you only got a B3 after two years, it may be a new course in one year next year?

Was it OL or HL maths you failed?

Well pick up the sunday newspaper and go to the business section and see if you find it interesting.
There is a fair amount of theory, the exam is about applying what you learned to situations more than straight learning a paragraph and spit it out onto the page.

Like another poster said, biology might be a good choice

I was suposed to do the honours english I dropped beginning of 5th year. An decided to get a B in ordinary instead and that happend. I'll probably leave it I had a look I'd have to learn 3 new texts in a year. I'll just do the ordinary two of my texts are still on the course so I only need one more and can maybe get a A.

I already do business . I'm just trying to decide which other one to take up as well as that it's between accounting and economics my mum doesn't want me doing economics though.

I failed ol maths. I'd failed most the year though. I can get better an get grinds.

Mysteriouschic

milosh wrote: »

I teach all three Leaving Cert Business Subjects in my school. I take regular 5th and 6th Year classes in Accounting and Business and teach Economics as an extra subject for 1 hour per week to 6th Years (2 hours per week after the mocks).

Accounting is not doable in 1 year in any circumstance. Business and Economics are both achievable. Business is an easier subject than economics but is a much longer course. Economics is without doubt the shortest Leaving Cert course and probably has most choice (4 out of 8 questions with 3 from guaranteed topics). The language is more difficult and the concepts more complex but the idea that you must keep up to date with news and statistics is rubbish. You need to know 5 current statistical figures for the exam. You will need some teacher help with economics though as there are some tricky topics.

For the record, I had 21 students doing economics this year. All 21 got a C or better and every one of them counted it for points. Most also do business (6 classes per week) and the business results were marginally better on average.

Oh right so would you advise me not to do economics or accounting. Or if I did economics I'd have to watch the news . How hard out of 10 would you rate the economics?

Mysteriouschic

Or would biology be doable in a year? or maybe I should repeat french but I hate the subject and I'm not good at languages. I'm better and science subjects.

fred09

classics,home ec,agricultural science ive heard are very manageable.........i did accounting and did well but i worked really hard and wouldnt advise doing it as a year is not enough time i think anyway.

Mysteriouschic

It's so hard to decide . The thinks I'm definitely going to do are english(o) , maths(o) , geography(h) , business (h), classical studies (h) ,

I just need one more something that would be mangeable in a year to do higher level. Everyones advising me not to do economics. Accounting does it cross over on the stuff you would have learnt in the higher business studies in the junior cert like the trade profit and loss and balance sheet , budget etc.

I'm thinking possibly taking up home economics or I would like to do ag science, would I have to take that up outside the college?

I could do french but I need to do something in honours level 3 honours is not enough to get the points. I'm not good and hated french I know I won't work hard at it.

xclw

Don't do accounting, its probably the reason i'm going to repeat
Economics is very doable in a year so i would suggest doing that

Mysteriouschic

xclw wrote: »

Don't do accounting, its probably the reason i'm going to repeat
Economics is very doable in a year so i would suggest doing that

I want to do economics my family keep telling I'm I will fail if I do that as they failed theirs and they think I shouldn't :S.

If you are in any way intelligent you will not fail Economics. There isn't much to learn and you have a choice of 4 out of 8 in the exam.

implausible

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

I was suposed to do the honours english I dropped beginning of 5th year. An decided to get a B in ordinary instead and that happend. I'll probably leave it I had a look I'd have to learn 3 new texts in a year. I'll just do the ordinary two of my texts are still on the course so I only need one more and can maybe get a A.

If you got a B in OL, you're capable of at least a D in HL. I'd advise you to view your script and see where you got the marks. If you did well in Paper I, you're half-way there and don't have a lot to build on for HL. I don't have the 2011 OL syllabus to hand, but your comparative would've covered Theme/Issue, wouldn't it? Have you done Hamlet?

Mysteriouschic

Has the economics paper changed maybe it was harder back then?

They keep saying they found it difficult

Mysteriouschic

deemark wrote: »

If you got a B in OL, you're capable of at least a D in HL. I'd advise you to view your script and see where you got the marks. If you did well in Paper I, you're half-way there and don't have a lot to build on for HL. I don't have the 2011 OL syllabus to hand, but your comparative would've covered Theme/Issue, wouldn't it? Have you done Hamlet?

I can do the ordinary as two of my texts are on the course still and I only have to go over the poetry really. I could aim for an A instead. My teacher every work that I handed up to my teacher she'd always say that I was good. Rarely got bad comments. I don' think I can do the honours I'd need to learn the poetry, the hamlet the play and how to do the essays longer. I'd need two years. I shouldn't have dropped down. So aiming for an A in ordinary is probably the best thing to do.

implausible

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

I can do the ordinary as two of my texts are on the course still and I only have to go over the poetry really. I could aim for an A instead. My teacher every work that I handed up to my teacher she'd always say that I was good. Rarely got bad comments. I don' think I can do the honours I'd need to learn the poetry, the hamlet the play and how to do the essays longer. I'd need two years. I shouldn't have dropped down. So aiming for an A in ordinary is probably the best thing to do.

If it's points you're looking for, you should reconsider. An A at ordinary level is a waste of time as it means you would've got a C at HL (I've marked both). There isn't a huge difference in the standard of paper 1 essays at OL and HL, that's why I think you should view your script. However, taking up Hamlet could be daunting, but you could do it as part of your comparative and do another text for your single text.

Whatsername92

Hey!
I don't do either of business or Economics, but I promise you, Accounting is not possible to do in 1 year. I did 2 years of it and had to drop to pass in the end because theres just far too much to learn!

I also have to repeat as I failed Higher level Maths and higher level Chemistry, so I'm kinda in the same boat! Are there any other subjects people would recommend me taking up? (Bear in mind, I'm not great with numbers! =/ )
The subjects I do/am doing are:
English (H)
Irish (O)
Maths (H)
German (H)
Accounting (O)
Chemistry (H)
Biology (H)

I was thinking of taking on LCVP if thats possible as a repeat? Any ideas guys? Thanks!

EDIT: Btw, I got an E in maths and an F in Chem. I got B's in everything else! Got about 300 or so me thinks!

Mysteriouschic

deemark wrote: »

If it's points you're looking for, you should reconsider. An A at ordinary level is a waste of time as it means you would've got a C at HL (I've marked both). There isn't a huge difference in the standard of paper 1 essays at OL and HL, that's why I think you should view your script. However, taking up Hamlet could be daunting, but you could do it as part of your comparative and do another text for your single text.

I do know I would have done quite well. It's one of my strongest subjects. I don't think it's doable in a year. I won't be able to learn all the texts and poetry in just a year. If I didn't drop it in the beginning of 5th year. I'd be better off. The texts are completely different to the ordinary so I can't use any of them.

AceOps

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Or would biology be doable in a year? or maybe I should repeat french but I hate the subject and I'm not good at languages. I'm better and science subjects.

Well, tbh Biology is a fairly long course.. I did it by myself,without a teacher, as an extra subject in order to have 2 science subjects for my course. I started in september in 5th year and only finished aprox. in April in 6th year,balancing it with my other subjects. I got an A1 in it in the end . So regarding repeats, in order to finish biology in 1 year you will have to seriously push it.. dunno, maybe you will be able to do it. Good Luck

DaBomb

Id really recommend AG science. There's a project which is worth 25% and its not too hard. There is also a lot of overlap from geography and loads of biology i know you might tink its for 'farmers' :P but it is a science subject and its mostly science

younggalway

im repeating and was planning on dropping chemistry and taking on either geography or economics or maybe both.. I know economics is a 1 year course so im not too worried about that but is geo. possible in a year??

Mysteriouschic

younggalway wrote: »

im repeating and was planning on dropping chemistry and taking on either geography or economics or maybe both.. I know economics is a 1 year course so im not too worried about that but is geo. possible in a year??

I did geography , I think it's doable in a year. There is quite a bit to know.
Theres two books and another chapter for the essay question if you do honours.Theres the two cores physical and regional . Then one of the two electives and then the essay chapter(higher). You just have to practise the long questions. Theres also a investigation and you do a report on it it's worth 20%.

Bbbbolger

Anyone think Chemistry or Construction Studies would be doable in a year? I wouldn't mind doing either one and I need one more subject as I'm not doing Art again next year.

Sunny!!

Bbbbolger wrote: »

Anyone think Chemistry or Construction Studies would be doable in a year? I wouldn't mind doing either one and I need one more subject as I'm not doing Art again next year.

chemistry, its short enough course, but it only came together for me in 6th year, id look at all my options first, id put chemistry at the bottom

Crow92

Bbbbolger wrote: »

Anyone think Chemistry or Construction Studies would be doable in a year? I wouldn't mind doing either one and I need one more subject as I'm not doing Art again next year.

woodwork for the junior cert.

Project worth 25% (half for project, half for the write-up)
Practical exam worth 25%. 3-4 hours long.
Written exam worth 50%. Answer 5 questions of 10, Must answer the first question which is a drawing based 1. So basically pick 4 out of 9.

Very easy to learn the theory, just do the papers, they repeat themselves a lot!

Would wholely advise anyone who can to do the subject.

Bbbbolger

Crow92 wrote: »

woodwork for the junior cert.

Project worth 25% (half for project, half for the write-up)
Practical exam worth 25%. 3-4 hours long.
Written exam worth 50%. Answer 5 questions of 10, Must answer the first question which is a drawing based 1. So basically pick 4 out of 9.

Very easy to learn the theory, just do the papers, they repeat themselves a lot!

Would wholely advise anyone who can to do the subject.

How hard is the practical side of things? I did Technology in 1st-3rd year and Engineering in 5th and 6th. I'm decent at working with my hands and marking things out and measurements. I just have no experience working with woodworking tools. I work in a hardware so could get practice in the next 2 weeks. What tools would I need the most?

Crow92

I didn't find it difficult to learn the practical side at all (Besides gettting used to powerful drillers and belt sanders ect.)

Proper sawing technique, cutting in straight lines, Accurate measuring and marking. Being good with a chisel too. Electric srewdriver.
You'll need to be good with the wood, like with amount of force you apply and what not in order to not split the wood.

If you used to working with your hands it'll be grand. Does your school have the facilities for construction studies though? You'll get plenty of practice of the year.

Bbbbolger

Yeah it does. We have a fairly good Constuction room actually! When I told my two friends I might be repeating they both suggested Construction to me. Thanks for the input about the practical. I think its the chiseling that'll take most practice. Getting pressure and angles etc. right will be hard enough. Hopefully I'll pick it up fast though!

Sid_Justice

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

My results weren't the best. I'm gonna keep geography , maths ,business and English and pick up 2 new subjects I'm dropping my other two I'm not that good at them.


I'm thinking of taking up economics , classical studies or accounting.
My mum is really against me doing economics though. But I heard it's a short course and doable in a year. I like business too.

I did the business for the junior higher level and know a little how to do the balance sheets and trade profit and the budget a few of the others. I found it hard but maybe with practice I could do it. But I'm not great at maths , my mum wants me to do that I'd rather do economics.

Classical Studies looks interesting I heard you have to read lots of books , and I'm quite good at english.
I'd want t take them up as honours the most ordinary subjects I'll have is two. Maths and English but you can't do english in a 1 year higher level.

How hard is repeating?Is it easy to stay motivated?

I think you're getting shockingly bad advice here, including advice from teachers and exam correctors. What's your actual goal here in repeating? do you want to get a certain level of points to get into a college course? I don't know exactly how you did but it sounds like you got between 130 and 160 points. (just read you got more than that on other thread)

You did mostly ordinary level subjects and the higher level subjects you got Ds in. There is a chance you just picked bad subjects for you, didn't like them, bad teachers, didn't suit you but the signs here are that you don't have the academic ability to take a brand new leaving cert subject at higher level and pass it while doing reasonably at the other 5.

People here are telling you which subjects are easiest to get an A in when you should be concentrating on passing your core subjects, English (O/H), maths (O) and French (O?)/ (presume Irish is passed and doesn't need to be repeated for matriculation). Another year studying for Geography (H) and Business (H) should see you get a C at least in both. You haven't told us what the 6th subject is (presuming you did 7 in total), unless you really really hated it I'd suggest you keep the same 6 subjects and go at it hammer and thongs from September on and do your best.

EDIT just saw your other post sorry.

Mysteriouschic

Sid_Justice wrote: »

I think you're getting shockingly bad advice here, including advice from teachers and exam correctors. What's your actual goal here in repeating? do you want to get a certain level of points to get into a college course? I don't know exactly how you did but it sounds like you got between 130 and 160 points. (just read you got more than that on other thread)

You did mostly ordinary level subjects and the higher level subjects you got Ds in. There is a chance you just picked bad subjects for you, didn't like them, bad teachers, didn't suit you but the signs here are that you don't have the academic ability to take a brand new leaving cert subject at higher level and pass it while doing reasonably at the other 5.

People here are telling you which subjects are easiest to get an A in when you should be concentrating on passing your core subjects, English (O/H), maths (O) and French (O?)/ (presume Irish is passed and doesn't need to be repeated for matriculation). Another year studying for Geography (H) and Business (H) should see you get a C at least in both. You haven't told us what the 6th subject is (presuming you did 7 in total), unless you really really hated it I'd suggest you keep the same 6 subjects and go at it hammer and thongs from September on and do your best.

EDIT just saw your other post sorry.

I'm exempt from irish only because I moved here from england. I was capable of getting a B in geography and business. In geography on the day the exam didn't go well and my essay didn't come up or it did under a different name so I lost the 80 marks. I think it has alot to do with my subject choices. I was originally meant to do biology , geography and french (I only did that because I didn't want history) Then my geography teacher wasn't good I knew I'd fail as he talks for the whole time. So I had to change my subjects to get a good geography teacher then ended up having to do engineering as I can't do art had to drop biology. My business teacher basically read through the book he didn't tell us anything about the different ways to answer the question. Or even go through the abq or the paper and didn't correct our work. I when I did ask he'd say it was good. French I hate it I've done it for years and I'm still not good , I'm not really good at languages. I just need to study more which I left late last year. I can't do engineering it's too hard. So I need the two new subjects. So classics and one other not sure which one. English I'm really good at . My goal is to get into a good uni I need at least A's and B's I'm hoping one in england or one here.

Sid_Justice

All universities are equally good in Ireland, however even if you double your points to 360, there aren't a whole lot of suitable courses in universities in Dublin. However, NCI, a 3rd level college would have courses you may be interested in e.g. Business, Accounting, Human Resources.

Geography, Business, English, Maths, Classical Studies...

can you investigate Home Economics in your new school?

Mysteriouschic

Sid_Justice wrote: »

All universities are equally good in Ireland, however even if you double your points to 360, there aren't a whole lot of suitable courses in universities in Dublin. However, NCI, a 3rd level college would have courses you may be interested in e.g. Business, Accounting, Human Resources.

Geography, Business, English, Maths, Classical Studies...

can you investigate Home Economics in your new school?

Out of the places I'd applied for the highest points I needed were 325 or 340 can' remember it was DCU and its a computer business course the points aren't as high as other subjects. I'm applying to both england and ireland. I just want to move away for university. I still like those unis though nci and dcu I only needed 290 for nci.

If home economics is doable in a year I could but theres a lot of cooking and a project which needs to be done early on. I might pick economics instead though. Even though my mum and her friend are telling me not to everyone else says it's well doable in a year and the test has probably changed since when they did it. I enjoy business, and it could tie into some stuff like the land labour captital and enterprise.

Sid_Justice

Just check you have all the requirements, you need passes in two languages, English and one other. You've got an exemption for irish but i'm not sure if they still expect you to have a pass in french. If you passed the french already then it's grand.

What happens if I do not take a language other than Irish and English?

The National University of Ireland demands a pass in a third language for entry to almost every course at its colleges - University College Dublin, University College Galway, University College Cork and NUI Maynooth. The exception is at NUI Maynooth, which has dropped the requirement for its engineering programmes. You also need a third language to become an Army or Air Corps cadet. Trinity College in Dublin accepts Irish as fulfilling its second-language requirement.

The University of Limerick, Dublin City University and the institutes of technology require a continental language only if the course involves its study.

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Mysteriouschic

Sid_Justice wrote: »

Just check you have all the requirements, you need passes in two languages, English and one other. You've got an exemption for irish but i'm not sure if they still expect you to have a pass in french. If you passed the french already then it's grand.



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Yeah I got a D1 in french. I really don't want to do french again.