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Itssoeasy

Losty Dublin

079 arriving at Cork yesterday....

Losty Dublin

And leaving Cork yesterday. Excuse the audio being ropey but the train was, ahem, moving into the wind and blowing all over the place

Ronnie Binge

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Only the C and 121s worked on the AEC push pull links from Greystones; the 141's were never fitted with PP control kit.

Anyone got photos of the pre-1984 interiors of the push pulls? That was a distinctive fit out all right. :rolleyes: I used to wonder was it a deliberate policy of CIÉ's to have the worst rolling stock interior in the western world?

Losty Dublin

I've seen pics online somewhere, not that it makes for pleasant viewing. I was in them as a kid and they were depressing to be sure. From what I remember being told, the budget was zilch as the country was skint and the 2600's were due for scrapping once the Dart came into service. There was meant to be seats fitted from Park Royals to get them by but they didn't fit and with leaking roofs on many of the carriages, the plastic seats were fitted as they wouldn't get water damaged.

These day's you'd be lynched for the state of them and rightly so

Losty Dublin

Losty Dublin wrote: »

I've seen pics online somewhere, not that it makes for pleasant viewing. I was in them as a kid and they were depressing to be sure. From what I remember being told, the budget was zilch as the country was skint and the 2600's were due for scrapping once the Dart came into service. There was meant to be seats fitted from Park Royals to get them by but they didn't fit and with leaking roofs on many of the carriages, the plastic seats were fitted as they wouldn't get water damaged.

These day's you'd be lynched for the state of them and rightly so

I'm too young to remember them, being born shortly after the DART started. I have read that the push-pulls were bad, but whoa, that sounds scary.

Eiretrains

Ronnie Binge wrote: »

Anyone got photos of the pre-1984 interiors of the push pulls? That was a distinctive fit out all right. :rolleyes: I used to wonder was it a deliberate policy of CIÉ's to have the worst rolling stock interior in the western world?

Two words to describe the old AEC pushpull converts - bucket seats.:D

CIE

Rare colour photos of the Pennsylvania Railroad's T-1 Duplex (4-4-4-4) type. This one is in the Harrisburg (Pennsylvania) yards, on display; year is 1948.

Judgement Day

Ronnie Binge wrote: »

Anyone got photos of the pre-1984 interiors of the push pulls? That was a distinctive fit out all right. :rolleyes: I used to wonder was it a deliberate policy of CIÉ's to have the worst rolling stock interior in the western world?

Below - AEC railcars in their early years with CIE must have been a thing of beauty after all the 'hand me downs' received from the GSR.



However, it's for the wrong reasons that most of us old enough to experience the Dublin suburban railway pre-DART remember them. The aroma of pre-war plumbing, people using umbrellas inside them. The rush to get a seat that didn't have a pool of condensed steam (water) on it. The external doors, some missing handles, that used to swell in damp weather and render them unopenable....and you tell young people today.




Some more pics and info here: http://irishrailways.blogspot.com/2009/08/greystones-shuttle-25.html

steamengine

Pre push-pull, when CIE operated some of the ex-GNR AEC railcars, the interiors were quite plush, especially First Class. I travelled to school on them for many years in the sixties and the 2nd class seating was comparable to the present day Enterprise standard class. The substantial tables were great for the old 'push-halfpenny' games.

Eiretrains

Strung a few clips of 461 on the Spare Link railtour, featured at various locations on the route.:cool:

The seats in that photo of the push-pull interior remind me of the seats used in primary schools!

Judgement Day

Karsini wrote: »

The seats in that photo of the push-pull interior remind me of the seats used in primary schools!

They were standard school type seats mounted on a heavy frame. Cold, wet and frequently filthy.

lord lucan

This caught my eye on Youtube tonight. I'm more than a little jealous i must admit.

demanufactured

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GhwbyybXys

Crazy carry on....

A cousin of the 121 class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjadmylsvjc

Run_to_da_hills

lord lucan wrote: »

This caught my eye on Youtube tonight. I'm more than a little jealous i must admit.

Are they petrol or diesel?

The NIR C series is far too clean, these were in bits by the time they got their hands on them.

lord lucan

CIE

Real oddball this one. Pennsylvania Railroad rubber-tyred shunting engine, for moving freight wagons around on the tramways that used to exist around the docklands in cities like Philadelphia, Baltimore (Maryland) and Jersey City (New Jersey) back when they were the centres of manufacturing for nearly the whole world (China and Germany laugh today because that country gave away all its manufacturing). Quite flexible insofar as these shunters didn't have to go to a passing siding to run around a train of wagons; it could uncouple, drive around the cars on the street, then couple on at the other end, or maybe even assemble/break trains apart in the same manner. Originally battery-powered, then converted to petrol engine power. First ones built 1912.

CIE

Newsreel from 1935 about the New York Central System's 20th Century Limited train (Chicago to New York/Boston). Shows the engine change at Croton-Harmon, some 32 miles away from Manhattan; for most of the journey, the power is a J1a 4-6-4 (with mechanical stokers, so the fireman can sit down and watch the track ahead instead of manually feeding coal; no unnecessary standing for drivers and firemen in US steamers). Back then, the average speed (17-hour journey one way) was 56.5 mph (about 91 km/h) with about six intermediate stops over a 1,547-km route. (Average speed improved to 96.5 km/h by the late 30s.)

Amtrak runs almost the same routing on the Lake Shore Limited (exceptions being New York Penn instead of Grand Central, Rensselaer instead of the now-defunct Albany Union Station, and Depew instead of Buffalo Central Terminal—a station Amtrak closed in 1979), but with 16 intermediate stops and an average speed of 64 km/h if there are no delays (thanks a lot for overregulation out of Washington DC). :rolleyes: Also no all-electric power; it's all diesel power, using dual-mode diesels between New York and Rensselaer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcC9laB3UFU

Mycroft H

lord lucan wrote: »

Lovely bit of GM music in this one.

My local station

Its a long time since I've seen a 071 near enfield, let alone one pulling freight.

I got a "lift" in the cab of a 071 to enfield from Connolly one evening. My uncle was a driver at the time. Nothing more satisfying (to a twelve year old) then blasting through Clonsilla while sounding the horn

Itssoeasy

Not sure if this is here but IR201s and the 001s in one video as operational engines. Not many videos of that around I'd say. And the uploader says there were only four 001s in service at the time. So my question is was it a gradual cascading of the 071s from 1995 ?

Itssoeasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f0aT3z5PKs

newmug

What engine had the 121's?

newmug

newmug wrote: »

What engine had the 121's?

The 121s had the same engine as the 141s, the 8-cylinder 567CR, though they were later rebuilt with power assemblies from the 645.

001: Originally a Crossley HST-V8 1200hp @ 625rpm. Rebuilt with a GM 12-645E 1600hp @ 900rpm. Most were derated to 1325hp @ 800rpm.
C201: Originally a Crossley EST-V8 550hp (unknown rpm). Rebuilt with a GM 8-645E 1100hp @ 900rpm (same as the 181s) and renamed to B201 class. Not sure if this was derated.
121: GM 8-567CR 950hp @ 835rpm. Rebuilt to take 645 power assemblies. Some were later fitted with 8-645E engines
141: Same as the 121
181: GM 8-645E 1100hp @ 900rpm. 186 was later fitted with a 567 engine.
071: GM 12-645E3 2475hp @ 900rpm. Rebuilt to 645E3B or 645E3C spec
201: GM 12-710G3B 3200hp @ 900rpm

HP ratings are gross engine power, power available for traction is less (roughly 875/1000/2250/3000). Running a 201 in HEP mode drops its available tractive power by about 20%.

foggy_lad

Waterford-Dublin train being held back for about 15minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkrbJmxygp4

Before being passed by a late Cork-Dublin train

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBx_0ccJJB0

2717? and 2718 looking quite old and worn out at Manulla Junction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFembHbt86w

Mycroft H

BX 19 wrote: »

My local station

Its a long time since I've seen a 071 near enfield, let alone one pulling freight.

I got a "lift" in the cab of a 071 to enfield from Connolly one evening. My uncle was a driver at the time. Nothing more satisfying (to a twelve year old) then blasting through Clonsilla while sounding the horn

And while mentioning that, the signal cabin is manned and lit. Its sad state compared to what it is now - windows broken, graffitti etc. All in the name of progress I guess.

lord lucan

CIE

Good video that one. Cravens look like they're ready to go right back into revenue service too. Looks like the driver didn't give it enough steam at first to start moving; scared of driving wheels slipping?

dowlingm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQjsbCKyZhY

stoneill

Wellington cable car - Super view of the city from the top of the hill: