How is the Catholic Church Funded in Ireland?

MrTimewalk

Straightforward question!

Thanks in advance

chin_grin

By paedophiles and rapists. There's your AH answer.

Samich

Collections, and dead people leaving them money.

Sykk

This should be good

Tabnabs

They control our oil reserves and sell them to the highest bidder.

mackg

chin_grin wrote: »

By paedophiles and rapists. There's your AH answer.

i want to do a bit of travelling after college reckon they would fund that?

FatherLen

they download and illegally bootleg DVDs

mikemac

There are two collections every week

One goes to the Church.
Used to be the case the parish kept the money but then you have large parishes and small parishes and it's unequal.
Goes to the diocese they sort it out

The second collection is for a charity, it can change regularly

And yes, people leave money to the parish in their wills
Or maybe donate land, our graveyard was nearly full so a landowner donated land and the tidy towns committee landscaped it

7sr2z3fely84g5

that money was resting in my account until i moved it along.

Hank_Jones

They are funded by the people.

What do you think they do with those collections at mass?

krudler

Childrens tears, sold to billionaires for their life giving power

prinz

The Catholic Church in Ireland is a money laundering operation set up by the international jewry and financiers funded primarily by the Rothschild dynasty.

Fratton Fred

Since my father in law died, my mammy in law isn't as well off as she was for one reason or another, so we've all been chipping in and helping her out, everyone that is except the church, they turn up regular as clockwork at her front door to collect their god tax.

Silly bint pays them as well.

Happyman42

Samich wrote: »

Collections, and dead people leaving them money.

Dead people can't do anything except be dead.

MrTimewalk

is it JUST from charity?

There's method to me asking this question btw.

I know they get funding from church collections and I forgot they get left stuff of course but I'm wondering if they have any other funding coming from government etc.

partyatmygaff

prinz wrote: »

The Catholic Church in Ireland is a money laundering operation set up by the international jewry and financiers funded primarily by the Rothschild dynasty.

Hitler approves.

:pac:

Fratton Fred

MrTimewalk wrote: »

is it JUST from charity?

There's method to me asking this question btw.

I know they get funding from church collections and I forgot they get left stuff of course but I'm wondering if they have any other funding coming from government etc.

I don't think they get money from government, but the churches usually invest their money quite well.

I worked with four churches in the uk helping set up a youth drop in centre and I was amazed how much property they had.

partyatmygaff

MrTimewalk wrote: »

I know they get funding from church collections and I forgot they get left stuff of course but I'm wondering if they have any other funding coming from government etc.

:eek:

AH would have even more threads about the Catholic Church if that was the case. It'd be like those "Dole scroungers sapping our money" threads except with a Catholic spin to it. A 2in1 thread if you will.

Chuck Stone

They sell indulgences because they're so good they have a surpluss of goodishness.

It's a supply and demand thing.

Saila

Hank_Jones wrote: »

They are funded by the people.

What do you think they do with those collections at mass?

but no one goes to mass now accept the elderly with no money

mikemac

The elderly have more money then most of us

I Heart Internet

Yeah - collections (it varies from diocese to diocese - in some, the regular collection is for the parish (not the priest), in others, as someone else said it's pooled together to balance rish/poor parishes, etc. A percentage goes to central diocesan funds, etc).

Wills can be to the benefit of individual parishes or the diocese.

Property sales

Same as other churches, I guess - and the bigger charities.

KeithAFC

People giving them money?

cosmicfart

MrTimewalk wrote: »

is it JUST from charity?

There's method to me asking this question btw.

I know they get funding from church collections and I forgot they get left stuff of course but I'm wondering if they have any other funding coming from government etc.

They make their money buy selling innocent gullible people fantastical stories of make believable science fiction.












oh and theres a constant boom in the rent-a-boy market which the Catholic church regulates

Parishes also employ corporate fundraising companies for large scale drives like roof resortations and church repairs.

Penn

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Since my father in law died, my mammy in law isn't as well off as she was for one reason or another, so we've all been chipping in and helping her out, everyone that is except the church, they turn up regular as clockwork at her front door to collect their god tax.

Silly bint pays them as well.

Let the Gods pay the God Tax, I pay the Homer Tax

c_man

How is the Catholic Church Funded in Ireland?

They have a dude, he used to be great at multiplying amounts of loaves and fishes.

They upskilled him to Euros.

I Heart Internet

Deleted User wrote: »

Parishes also employ corporate fundraising companies for large scale drives like roof resortations and church repairs.

Really? In Irish parishes? I'd suspect it that might happen in big cities on big projects (Westminster Cathedral in London springs to mind) but I've never seen it here. I'm curious, where have you seen this happening in Ireland?

I Heart Internet

Saila wrote: »

but no one goes to mass now accept the elderly with no money

Neither of these points are true though.....that's the thing.

FatherLen

Saila wrote: »

but no one goes to mass now accept the elderly with no money

I will only accept the elderly if they have money

maudgonner

In addition to weekly collections there are quarterly (I think?) collections that go towards paying priests' salaries. And people who have weddings & funerals make a contribution to the priest.

Many priests & nuns also have other part- or full-time jobs: nursing, teaching, writing, singing etc. Not sure whether they can keep all/part of the salaries they earn for these or what the story is.

Fratton Fred

Deleted User wrote: »

Parishes also employ corporate fundraising companies for large scale drives like roof resortations and church repairs.

We had to raise €100k for our church to fix the roof etc (why doesn't someone invent a church roof that doesn't require refurbishing every ten years?) And we did it purely by word of mouth and through the parish magazine. It took two years in the end.

krudler

Fratton Fred wrote: »

We had to raise €100k for our church to fix the roof etc (why doesn't someone invent a church roof that doesn't require refurbishing every ten years?) And we did it purely by word of mouth and through the parish magazine. It took two years in the end.

nobody think of praying for a miracle restoration?

cosanostra

The Catholic Church runs the education system in Ireland and i'm sure they make a mint out of that they also invest in blue chip shares on top of that they get donations of a few thousand a week from each parish!

But in Scotland they make Buckie cleaver chaps them scots!

FetchTheGin

I seen a priest driving a brand new 2011 Lexus CT a couple of weeks ago, so they can't be doing too bad.

I Heart Internet

cosanostra wrote: »

The Catholic Church runs the education system in Ireland and i'm sure they make a mint out of that

How? Are you making the mistake of thinking that all nominally catholic organisations, religious orders, dioceses and parishes are all under one corporate umbrella? A profitably run Jesuit school in south county Dublin has little or nothing to do with a leaky parish chuch in west Cork.

cosanostra wrote: »

they also invest in blue chip shares

Yeah, especially the bank shares

cosanostra wrote: »

on top of that they get donations of a few thousand a week from each parish!

Each parish uses most of this to run said parish.


Just because people can't understand why folks would give money to the RCC church to support it doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy.

I Heart Internet

FetchTheGin wrote: »

I seen a priest driving a brand new 2011 Lexus CT a couple of weeks ago, so they can't be doing too bad.

A waitress I know drives a BMW (2009 btw).

Priests are essentially self employed (although some are emploted directly in other jobs (teachers, prison chaplins). Like everyone else, they might be lucky with an inheritence, etc.

Secular priests (i.e. diocesan priests) don't take vows of poverty. They're not monks.

cosanostra

I Heart Internet wrote: »

How? Are you making the mistake of thinking that all nominally catholic organisations, religious orders, dioceses and parishes are all under one corporate umbrella? A profitably run Jesuit school in south county Dublin has little or nothing to do with a leaky parish chuch in west Cork.




Yeah, especially the bank shares



Each parish uses most of this to run said parish.


Just because people can't understand why folks would give money to the RCC church to support it doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy.

I was only answering the ops question "How is the Catholic church funded in Ireland?" not saying anything about a conspiracy!

Guy:Incognito

Hank_Jones wrote: »

What do you think they do with those collections at mass?

Coke and hookers?

MrTimewalk

Thanks for all the feedback.

I guess my next question would be, if people stopped paying into collections on sundays, monthly dues, weddings, christenings etc. how long would it take before they would have to shut up shop?

ColeTrain

Holy Water. They take water from the taps and get some guy to wave his hand over it and then sell it for €50 a gallon. All profit.

Lady von Purple

MrTimewalk wrote: »

I guess my next question would be, if people stopped paying into collections on sundays, monthly dues, weddings, christenings etc. how long would it take before they would have to shut up shop?

I'd guess, a long time. The Vatican City used to be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Or maybe just wealthiest cities, I'd have to look into it more as I can't quite remember offhand. They own a lot of land though, there's a lot of wealth in the Vatican. The collections, I'd guess, are for day-to-day running and salaries, but they have a massive nest-egg as well, with all their properties. I also strongly doubt you'd be able to stop/discourage churchgoers giving money to the church collection!

I Heart Internet

MrTimewalk wrote: »

Thanks for all the feedback.

I guess my next question would be, if people stopped paying into collections on sundays, monthly dues, weddings, christenings etc. how long would it take before they would have to shut up shop?

I guess individual parishes - not too long (year or two). Some religious orders a lot lot longer as they would have other sources of income (and no mortgages).

Why do you ask? Why would people who are voluntarily part of the church (or any other organisation) stop supporting it financially to allow it to carry on what they want and expect it to do?

Lady von Purple wrote: »

I'd guess, a long time. The Vatican City used to be one of the wealthiest countries in the world. Or maybe just wealthiest cities, I'd have to look into it more as I can't quite remember offhand. They own a lot of land though, there's a lot of wealth in the Vatican. The collections, I'd guess, are for day-to-day running and salaries, but they have a massive nest-egg as well, with all their properties. I also strongly doubt you'd be able to stop/discourage churchgoers giving money to the church collection!

The vatican doesn't support diocese or parishes or religious orders financially. The Vatican gets much of its day to day money from donations, coins and stamps. I'd have to check but I think the books of the vatican have ben pretty ropey anyway for the last few years.

Also - why would you want to stop/discourage people from using their money as they want?

MrTimewalk

I would NEVER tell people what to do with their money or how to live their lives (there's a joke in here somewhere)

There is a huge amount of anger towards the church in Ireland YET I believe the very people that cry out, pay the church a considerable amount of money be it through collections, christening, etc. etc.

If people are so unhappy with the church why do they continue to fund it?

I Heart Internet

MrTimewalk wrote: »

If people are so unhappy with the church why do they continue to fund it?

Couldn't agree with you more.

If you're not happy don't contribute. The only thing that doesn't work for is taxes.