Is it a PB?

chinguetti

Hello folks, I have a question for the great mind pool of the Boards ART.

I ran the Lakeland 15 yesterday and got a new PB by 8 minutes for the distance. Yeah me:D

However, I also got a new PB for both 10 miles and Half Marathon distances. Am I allowed count them as PBs if anyone ever asked me my PB in that distance or do I have to run them in a race in that distance?

For myself, I will be counting them as PBs but i'm wondering what the norm is on this matter.

Thanks, C

BeepBeep67

Were the times for the distances official from the race or just your watch, if it's the former I would count them.

RayCun

Only if you have an official time for the splits

chinguetti

My watch at 10 and a guy was calling out the times at Half, who was dead on with my watch time.

No mats were crossed either btw

(Someone get on here and tell me i can claim them. I'm a donkey on the edge)

Brianderunner

I would say no technically. You know you can run them another time though.

emerald007

My view is you got a nice 15mile PB but the others don't count. The fact that the other two distances (10km and the half) are shorter should mean you can pick up two easy 10k and half PB's in the next few weeks - if the training hold up.

shels4ever

chinguetti wrote: »

My watch at 10 and a guy was calling out the times at Half, who was dead on with my watch time.

No mats were crossed either btw

(Someone get on here and tell me i can claim them. I'm a donkey on the edge)

I think there were splits for the half in that race, at least they said there would be, so you may get your half pb.

robinph

I did notice that they installed an extra photo finish line at the 1500 meter mark in the recent Diamond League meeting 1 mile race so that people could claim their world champs qualifying times as well.

So your "pb's" won't do for your Olympic standard qualification unfortunately without the official timing.

The times are sufficient for pb status in the pub post race though.

Gringo78

Personally, I would claim them - this topic comes up over & over again and the discussion often gets heated but a PB is a personal best - its the fastest that you personally have run 10 miles or 13.1 miles or whatever - so long as its not an official olympic qualifying mark or the like but is for the purposes of telling a mate in a pub that you can run 10 miles in xx minutes then fair enough. The purists will disagree with this but maybe its a fair compromise to round your time up to the nearest minute when the split has not been officially recorded.

RacoonQueen

Technically no, my best times for numerous distances were in the Dublin half 2009. They were my benchmark/times to beat from there on.

Did you break 90 for the half?

TFBubendorfer

On the other hand, why would you care if anyone else questions your PBs? It's totally up to you if you want to count them or not.

28064212

Depends on what you're referring to as a Personal Best. A competitive PB? Or a "this is the fastest I've ever run this distance" PB. If it's the latter, it's valid, the former it's not.

It's the same as counting a training run as a PB imo

robinph

I never actually counted my fastest half time run, as the first half of a marathon, as my half PB until I had properly beaten it in a proper half distance race even though there was a timing mat. I think I just wanted to claim a bigger time that I was beating said PB by in the next half I did.

Rantan

..I think this is going to have to be your own call...if you want them to be PB's and you know deep down that you wont feel any doubts in your mind well then congratulations!

Personally I agree that if you run a distance in the best time you can; race or not - then its a PB, I'm a relative novice and thats good enogh for me but I notice that it is the more experienced runners here all insist on race PB's so maybe my opinion will change over time...

ecoli

Would agree completely with people. Its called a personal best for that reason..... its personal therefor if you feel it is warranted as your best time.

Personally for me I wont register a time unless its official. Not just for the official sense but given you are runner over the distance i dont think that the under distance times do you justice which could be another reason why I dont recognise them

One example to me is I dont have a 10 mile PB because I havent ran one. I have gone through 10 miles in a Half Marathon in 58 but i dont consider myself a sub 60 runner until I hit one (roll on Ballycotton next year maybe:D)

YFlyer

Its good enough for Ray Flynn to have the Irish 1500m and mile time in the same race.

chinguetti

YFlyer wrote: »

Its good enough for Ray Flynn to have the Irish 1500m and mile time in the same race.

Well then it should be good enough for me as a normal runner to do the same. Thanks

chinguetti

To answer a few questions:

Emerald - i really don't train that much, never do tempo or speed sessions, i just go out and run. My housemate is training for a 5k and thats where i do most of my running. If i had a training log on here, it would be fairly blank so the less i train, the faster i get (Meno is shaking his head somewhere)

Robin - have Olympic tickets so no need to qualify:D

RQ - Yep sub 90 broken in pure wonder at the time i was clocking

28064212/Rantan - Fastest i ever ran them, don't bother about training runs and time, more interested in what distance i've done.

Personally, i feel the time is a PB for Half at least as i gave it my all and left nothing on the road. Legs buckled today though.

Have to say it wouldn't have been possible but was running besides a guy who kept me going when i was threading water from around 12 miles. He won the over 60s and i only hope i can run that fast in 20 plus years.

Thanks folks for the thoughts on this subject

robinph

chinguetti wrote: »

Robin - have Olympic tickets so no need to qualify:D

In that case it's definitely not a PB. :mad: