Upgrading 06 Octavia brakes.

Chuck_Norris

Afternoon all. I'm remapping the Octy in a few weeks, and will probably upgrade the brakes soon enough afterwards.

Just wondering, can I get away with just changing the disks and calipers? Or will I have to change the hub, master cylinder etc?

Any advice/ input appreciated.

EPM

Been looking into this myself and will prob do pads and braided lines on my vrs. That's the advice I've been given anyway.

TestTransmission

vrs has a decent enough setup .Good pads will help, great brakes on my old one

Chuck_Norris

EPM wrote: »

Been looking into this myself and will prob do pads and braided lines on my vrs. That's the advice I've been given anyway.

Cheers.

Mines just a standard diesel Octy, so was thinking of ugrading to vRS/ Gti disks/ pads.

Should possibly post in modified. Would post on vagdrivers, but my two attempts at joining have failed so far.

Chuck_Norris

TestTransmission wrote: »

vrs has a decent enough setup .Good pads will help, great brakes on my old one

I've no doubt they're good in the vRS. That's what I'm thinking of putting in. If I can get my hands on some.

EPM

To be honest the difference isn't as huge as you'd think over a standard octavia. Proper pads and lines might work out cheaper possibly and give better results.

Neilw

312mm discs from the vRS would be a nice upgrade, match them with braided steel hoses and good pads and you would have a nice upgrade.

Or you could fit R32 front discs/pads/calipers, they are huge so would probably need bigger wheels to clear them.

Chuck_Norris

EPM wrote: »

To be honest the difference isn't as huge as you'd think over a standard octavia. Proper pads and lines might work out cheaper possibly and give better results.

Thanks again man.

What pads would you recommend? Only ever used OE pads to be honest.

Research is throwing up a few ideas: Mintex, Endless, Yellowstuff.

EPM

Well it's endless I'm going to get pretty soon

Chuck_Norris

Neilw wrote: »

312mm discs from the vRS would be a nice upgrade, match them with braided steel hoses and good pads and you would have a nice upgrade.

Or you could fit R32 front discs/pads/calipers, they are huge so would probably need bigger wheels to clear them.

17"s on it for a few months now, so will probably get away with the vRS disks.

TestTransmission

EPM wrote: »

To be honest the difference isn't as huge as you'd think over a standard octavia. Proper pads and lines might work out cheaper possibly and give better results.

Really?I've never drove a regular octavia,would of expected to be a big difference

EPM

TestTransmission wrote: »

Really?I've never drove a regular octavia,would of expected to be a big difference

Nothing too major to be honest. I'd assume with a lot of hard use they would last a lot better but day to day driving there's very little difference at all.

Chuck_Norris

EPM wrote: »

Been looking into this myself and will prob do pads and braided lines on my vrs. That's the advice I've been given anyway.

Are you gonna do braided front and rear? Or just the front? Gonna do it yourself, or get someone to do it?

Apologies for all the questions.

And it's mainly just day to day driving for me. Remapping for a bit of extra power. Would love a vRS, but economic circumstances don't allow. Have a wedding to pay for, and if I changed the car before that happens, I reckon the weddings off

Come to think of it.......

TestTransmission

Where is it you're getting it remapped?what's the power gains?

Mr Benevolent

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Have a wedding to pay for, and if I changed the car before that happens, I reckon the weddings off

Come to think of it.......

Great excuse for getting out of the wedding though.

spiggotpaddy

dont forget that what you (or any normal person) call an upgrade your insurance co will call modified.so you should decare it so they can hike their premiums accordingly.

Chuck_Norris

TestTransmission wrote: »

Where is it you're getting it remapped?what's the power gains?

Having done a fair bit of research, gonna go to Joe Power at chippedire.com.
Their website says bhp from 105- 135, and torque up to 310nM. But speaking to him on the phone he said he could bring it up to 145bhp, and I think he said 340nM of torque, without having to change engine mounts, half shafts, clutch/ DMF, turbo etc.

Chuck_Norris

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

dont forget that what you (or any normal person) call an upgrade your insurance co will call modified.so you should decare it so they can hike their premiums accordingly.

Already done so.

Rang the brokers, and they checked it out. Currently with AXA. At first, they said no problem. But then changed their mind.

Brokers then said that Zurich would do it no problem, as long as the power didn't go over 150bhp, without it effecting my premium.

Chuck_Norris

Confab wrote: »

Great excuse for getting out of the wedding though.

True. Bit then I'd be denied getting the sex. And I'm quite fond of the sex.

-Corkie-

@ EPM what sort of money would endless pads and disks cost. I was thinking of changing them on the Passat and getting it remapped to 590 bhp..

TestTransmission

-Corkie- wrote: »

@ EPM what sort of money would endless pads and disks cost. I was thinking of changing them on the Passat and getting it remapped to 590 bhp..

590??

-Corkie-

TestTransmission wrote: »

590??

TDI power....:pac::pac::pac:

MugMugs

-Corkie- wrote: »

TestTransmission wrote: »

590??

TDI power....:pac::pac::pac:

If you do..... Can I've a go?

sean1141

i think the vrs had 312mm disks which will fit under 17s no problems. if you are lucky you might just need new caliper carriers and pads & disks.
also a decent set of tyres and standard brakes will be be as good as upgraded brakes and **** tyres

Gary ITR

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Are you gonna do braided front and rear? Or just the front? Gonna do it yourself, or get someone to do it?

Apologies for all the questions.

And it's mainly just day to day driving for me. Remapping for a bit of extra power. Would love a vRS, but economic circumstances don't allow. Have a wedding to pay for, and if I changed the car before that happens, I reckon the weddings off

Come to think of it.......

We're doing the work on EPM's car, I work in the same place as Joe Power, we share a building. When doing braided lines it makes no sense to just do the fronts, to get the benefit you'll have to do all four, they come in a set anyway. Braided lines, good pads and OEM discs will do you fine I'd say, if when you're having it mapped you want a spin in a car with that kind of setup I'll organise that for you

Chuck_Norris

Gary ITR wrote: »

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Are you gonna do braided front and rear? Or just the front? Gonna do it yourself, or get someone to do it?

Apologies for all the questions.

And it's mainly just day to day driving for me. Remapping for a bit of extra power. Would love a vRS, but economic circumstances don't allow. Have a wedding to pay for, and if I changed the car before that happens, I reckon the weddings off

Come to think of it.......

We're doing the work on EPM's car, I work in the same place as Joe Power, we share a building. When doing braided lines it makes no sense to just do the fronts, to get the benefit you'll have to do all four, they come in a set anyway. Braided lines, good pads and OEM discs will do you fine I'd say, if when you're having it mapped you want a spin in a car with that kind of setup I'll organise that for you

Nice one Gary, I'd really appreciate that.

Was driving home from Galway, and noticed a hum from n/s rear. Methinks the bearing's gone, so I'll be getting that done first.

I'm planning on getting the map done bout mid September, but haven't made an appointment with Joe yet. Have to wait and see about getting time off work. Was supposed to be off now, but long boring story attached as to why not.

I'm guessing you guys are the Endless agents?

Any chance you could pm me a rough estimate for cost of installing braided lines and pads all round?

vectra

Few guys over on the Briskoda forum after converting to Bigger brakes ( R23 / Porsche ) etc.

I would guess that their original vRS setups would be for sale?

Might be worth a try.
One guy over there has the vrs discs and calipers with ( I think ) Mintex pads and does track days, He finds them excellent.

Chuck_Norris

vectra wrote: »

Few guys over on the Briskoda forum after converting to Bigger brakes ( R23 / Porsche ) etc.

I would guess that their original vRS setups would be for sale?

Might be worth a try.
One guy over there has the vrs discs and calipers with ( I think ) Mintex pads and does track days, He finds them excellent.

Cheers man. Haven't been on Brisky for a bit. I'll check it out. You ever get you HID's installed?

vectra

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Cheers man. Haven't been on Brisky for a bit. I'll check it out. You ever get you HID's installed?

Hi Bud,
Actually a member called Wardy is selling a 312 kit for the front for 120£ Plus delivery.
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/207083-5x112-312mm-front-brake-upgrade-kit/page__p__2475112__hl__discs__fromsearch__1#entry2475112



And yes. Got the HID's fitted.
Very pleased with them

-Corkie-

vectra wrote: »

Hi Bud,
Actually a member called Wardy is selling a 312 kit for the front for 120£ Plus delivery.
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/207083-5x112-312mm-front-brake-upgrade-kit/page__p__2475112__hl__discs__fromsearch__1#entry2475112



And yes. Got the HID's fitted.
Very pleased with them

I thought your machine had Xenons????.

vectra

-Corkie- wrote: »

I thought your machine had Xenons????.

It has now,

€1100 for the originals.
€75 for the conversion kit.

Guess which ones I got

Chuck_Norris

vectra wrote: »

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Cheers man. Haven't been on Brisky for a bit. I'll check it out. You ever get you HID's installed?

Hi Bud,
Actually a member called Wardy is selling a 312 kit for the front for 120£ Plus delivery.
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/207083-5x112-312mm-front-brake-upgrade-kit/page__p__2475112__hl__discs__fromsearch__1#entry2475112



And yes. Got the HID's fitted.
Very pleased with them

Have them on my own, and the difference over halogens is simple ridiculous!!

Had a quick look at that link, but I reckon courrier cost would be prohibitive. My company ships to the U.K. and we get charged €25 per 5kg.

-Corkie-

vectra wrote: »

It has now,

€1100 for the originals.
€75 for the conversion kit.

Guess which ones I got

Jesus. I am confusing it with the Superb Elegance I was looking at. Would they do my Passat?? Is the light any better??

Chuck_Norris

-Corkie- wrote: »

vectra wrote: »

It has now,

€1100 for the originals.
€75 for the conversion kit.

Guess which ones I got

Jesus. I am confusing it with the Superb Elegance I was looking at. Would they do my Passat?? Is the light any better??

I got my kit just after Christmas last year, and the difference is like night and day.

Plus the Octy has projectors, so no problem with blinding on- coming traffic, once they'd been aligned.

Might be a bit of a pig to fit into the Passat, if my memories of replacing bulbs on my auld man's 05 Passat is anything to go by.

vectra

-Corkie- wrote: »

Jesus. I am confusing it with the Superb Elegance I was looking at. Would they do my Passat?? Is the light any better??

To give an example of what they are like. My heads are more like fog lights compared to them. I rarely use heads now.


They should fit the passat.
Are they projectors?

-Corkie-

vectra wrote: »

Are they projectors?

I dont know...:o

Chuck_Norris

-Corkie- wrote: »

vectra wrote: »

Are they projectors?

I dont know...:o

What year is she Corkie?

And +1 for Vectras comment. I very rarely use mains now.

Gary ITR

vectra wrote: »

They should fit the passat.
Are they projectors?

Yeah I wouldn't do it without the projectors, you'll just blind everybody else on the road. If you have projectors then you'd be mad not to do it, in fact I think Limerick Man from here was selling them for a while so he might be worth dropping a PM to

Chuck_Norris

Gary, going back OT for a minute, would I be changing the grade of brake fluid if I fit braided lines?

-Corkie-

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

What year is she Corkie?

And +1 for Vectras comment. I very rarely use mains now.

Its a 08 Highline. My 07 had a way better dims and I have tried different bulbs etc. I might pm beer baron I know he has them on his Passat.

Sorry for the thread hi jack lads...

Gary ITR

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

Gary, going back OT for a minute, would I be changing the grade of brake fluid if I fit braided lines?

That's entirely up to you dude, you can do but it's not necessary

-Corkie- wrote: »

I might pm beer baron I know he has them on his Passat.

Ah, the King of 'Felt

Chuck_Norris

-Corkie- wrote: »

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

What year is she Corkie?

And +1 for Vectras comment. I very rarely use mains now.

Its a 08 Highline. My 07 had a way better dims and I have tried different bulbs etc. I might pm beer baron I know he has them on his Passat.

Sorry for the thread hi jack lads...

It's cool Corkie. I'm fairly sure there be projectors in that. I would highly, highly recommend getting them. You'll not look back.

Chuck_Norris

@Gary. Thanks for all the info. As I said, I'll defo be in touch.

-Corkie-

Chuck_Norris wrote: »

It's cool Corkie. I'm fairly sure there be projectors in that. I would highly, highly recommend getting them. You'll not look back.

I am nearly sure they are too. I remember something on Passatworld about them..:)

Gary ITR

-Corkie- wrote: »

I am nearly sure they are too. I remember something on Passatworld about them..:)

Just go out and have a look lol!

-Corkie-

Gary ITR wrote: »

Just go out and have a look lol!

Shes gone away in it..

Gary ITR

-Corkie- wrote: »

Shes gone away in it..

You left babysitting already?

-Corkie-

Gary ITR wrote: »

You left babysitting already?

Ya I am running around like a blue arse fly all night sorting stuff and shes cranky tonite like her old man..:pac:

Gary ITR

-Corkie- wrote: »

shes cranky tonite like her old man..:pac:

Why don't you leave her with him then?

-Corkie-

Gary ITR wrote: »

Why don't you leave her with him then?

Ha ha ha..:)

EPM

Gary ITR wrote: »

Why don't you leave her with him then?

I'm away at the moment:p