Register Irish car in UK??

rebseire

Hi, moving to UK next week with car... need it to bring over luggage and bits and pieces. My insurance lasts 3 weeks over there, then have to decide weather to sell it/ register it over there, seems so much hastle to register it over there? Its just a 00 daewoo Lanos, bit rusty!!

Any advice?

Cheers

TheInquisitor

Sell it back home in ireland otherwise you loose the 20% VRT difference. Buy a car in the UK , no VRT , no hassle and cheap tax

rebseire

yep, just had a quick look at prices over tehre, crazy what we pay here! hve to bring over the car, as have toddler and lots to bring over, but will either sell it over there, or here and buy over there, seems the easiest option

eric hoone

If you bought a u.k. import off a garage over here what's the procedure for re-registering it over in u.k.?

seinas1

eric hoone wrote: »

If you bought a u.k. import off a garage over here what's the procedure for re-registering it over in u.k.?

this is also something no one seems to be able to answer for me

nogoodnamesleft

I have recently re-registered my Irish car in the UK. I had originally bought the car in the Uk in 2007 and paid the VRT (all 3,400euro of it ).

My circumstances changed and I moved to the Uk to do a MSc and later a job in engineering. The procedure to change the plates is fairly straight forward in my case anyways as the car had been previously registered in the UK before.

You will need the following prior to visiting the DVLA:

• Irish log book (you will have to surrender it to the DVLA)
• Proof of UK insurance (cover note of UK insurance. My insurer insured the vehicle on its VIN number for 14days until I had obtained a Uk registration the policy was then duly sent out to me)
• Valid MOT (the car was MOT'ed under its Irish reg number and re-issued in the DVLA office under its UK reg)

You will also need photographic ID and proof of Uk address x 2 (bank statement, utility bill etc).

The total cost was....nil. Once you have obtained your UK reg you can then tax the car in the DVLA office whilst you are there (considerably cheaper than Ireland!)

JoseJones

I registered my Irish car here last year and it was daunting at first but actually relatively simple.

First I got an MOT under my Irish reg as mentioned above.
Then I insured it in the UK under the VIN.
Then you can apply to the DVLA to be issued with a reg number.
Once you get the reg number, call the insurance company and tell them. They will update the policy with reg number instead of VIN.
Then you can have your plates made which cost about £30.
The fee to DVLA was around £55 I think.

The first thing to do is go to the DVLA website and get them to send you an "import pack", that has everything you need in it.

On a side note, under EU law I believe your Irish insurance has to cover you for the duration of the policy in the EU with the minimum legal level of cover in that country i.e. third party. I drove here for 6 months on my Irish plates and Irish insurance.

sean_d

Has anyone who brought their car over had any luck getting UK insurance companies to accept NCB built up in Ireland?
I've been paying through the nose in Ireland for 5 years building it up, only to move to the UK and have to start again!

5unflower

NCB was no problem at all for me, the UK insurance I went with accepted it no bother. Just sent them the cert, no questions asked.

The NCB problems for me started when I moved back to Ireland and needed a NCB cert from UK insurance, they were mysteriously unable to post the requested document to my new address in Ireland...but this is of course an entirely different story

hiluxman

sean_d wrote: »

Has anyone who brought their car over had any luck getting UK insurance companies to accept NCB built up in Ireland?
I've been paying through the nose in Ireland for 5 years building it up, only to move to the UK and have to start again!

yeah i had that problem with one or two insurance companys, in the end, I just said i had 7 years ncb but i didnt tell them that it was from an irish insurance company, sent the english insurance company a copy of the irish cert and they accepted it.

sean_d

Just another update to this - I went through the ringer with insurance companies here, the main sticking points were:
-Residency time in the UK
-Acceptance of Irish NCB
-Offering cover based on the VIN of the car, prior to DVLA registration.

Adrian Flux (who claim to specialise in such cases) were next to useless - after 30 mins on the phone, offered an astronomical quote (£2500+)
Churchill accept Irish NCB and gave a good quote, but found it hard to get their head around the VIN issue (suspect there wasn't anybody with sufficient authority on hand to make that call)
Axa - who I've been with in Ireland for 5 years - were awful. They agreed to accept Axa Ireland NCB, but didn't want to know unless I'd been resident in the UK for 3 years, so their terms were highly contradictory and they topped it off by finally replying to ask if I'd been in NI for the last 3 years?
A friend recommended AJ Insurance brokers, having been in the same scenario previously. They were very helpful, knew exactly what was needed (they've even got a section devoted to it on their site) and came back with a reasonable quote (given the circumstances). It's underwritten by RSA and seems like a good standard of policy for the price. Still a lot more than I was paying in Ireland, but I expected a small increase.

I feel like I've lost a few weeks of my life and gained a few grey hairs, but got there in the end.

cul-2008

Hi everyone,

A huge thanks for the useful info - just in the process of trying to do it now and it's a bit of a pain to say the least!

Just wondering if anyone could help me with the following two points please;
- did you require a certificate of conformity? (My car was registered in Oct 2003 so is technically not ten years old yet, however it was originally a UK car that was exported to Ireland).
- can you call in to the DVLA and get it all sorted the same day in terms of the registration plates etc or do you have to wait a few days?

A huge thanks for any replies in advance,

Cul.

cul-2008

Anyone have any idea as to whether or not I can call into the DVLA office and get it sorted the same day?

nogoodnamesleft

cul-2008 wrote: »

Anyone have any idea as to whether or not I can call into the DVLA office and get it sorted the same day?

If the car was registered in the UK in the past its less of an ordeal as there is already a record of the car on the UK vehicle database.

Once you have all the documentation that I have listed in my previous reply to this thread you should have no problem. I visited the DVLA in Birmingham on a Friday last year and had the whole process completed (including purchasing a tax disk) within 30 mins. Went home and threw on the old UK plates that I still had when I bought the car a few years prior.

cul-2008

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

If the car was registered in the UK in the past its less of an ordeal as there is already a record of the car on the UK vehicle database.

Once you have all the documentation that I have listed in my previous reply to this thread you should have no problem. I visited the DVLA in Birmingham on a Friday last year and had the whole process completed (including purchasing a tax disk) within 30 mins. Went home and threw on the old UK plates that I still had when I bought the car a few years prior.

You sir, are a saint. Many thanks for the reply - wanted to have some idea of my chances before I took time off work. Here's hoping they do the same up here.

ht9zni1gs28crp

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

I have recently re-registered my Irish car in the UK. I had originally bought the car in the Uk in 2007 and paid the VRT (all 3,400euro of it ).

My circumstances changed and I moved to the Uk to do a MSc and later a job in engineering. The procedure to change the plates is fairly straight forward in my case anyways as the car had been previously registered in the UK before.


You will need the following prior to visiting the DVLA:

• Irish log book (you will have to surrender it to the DVLA)
• Proof of UK insurance (cover note of UK insurance. My insurer insured the vehicle on its VIN number for 14days until I had obtained a Uk registration the policy was then duly sent out to me)
• Valid MOT (the car was MOT'ed under its Irish reg number and re-issued in the DVLA office under its UK reg)

You will also need photographic ID and proof of Uk address x 2 (bank statement, utility bill etc).

The total cost was....nil. Once you have obtained your UK reg you can then tax the car in the DVLA office whilst you are there (considerably cheaper than Ireland!)

You are entitled to your VRT back in full, hope you claimed it!!!!

Frogeye

the gf registered her irish car in the uk. Main problem was she had to get the speedometer changed form km to miles and km. Plus she needed an MOT.

she had no problem with insurance.

brianh21

Glad I came across this... just called AJ Insurance who were very helpful and gave me a reasonable quote. My only concern now is that my car, a 10 reg Seat Leon has a km speedometer, which I assume I'll need to get changed to miles comply with UK regulations.

Frogeye

brianh21 wrote: »

Glad I came across this... just called AJ Insurance who were very helpful and gave me a reasonable quote. My only concern now is that my car, a 10 reg Seat Leon has a km speedometer, which I assume I'll need to get changed to miles comply with UK regulations.

not sure if you'll have too. she needed to give the DVLA a cert of conformity(along with other stuff) and i think thats what sparked the need to change the speedo. i think she had to do an MOT as well but her car was 2006.

ene

i have a 05 micra, i will be moving to the uk right after christmas. what do i need to do? is there anything i can do now that will save me stress when i move?

Frogeye

don't think so. just be sure to have all your documents.

brianh21

Frogeye wrote: »

not sure if you'll have too. she needed to give the DVLA a cert of conformity(along with other stuff) and i think thats what sparked the need to change the speedo. i think she had to do an MOT as well but her car was 2006.

I've contacted SEAT in Dublin who are going to forward me the certificate of conformity. Yes, I also need to get an MOT according to the DVLA. I'm assuming however that I'll need the mph speedo installed to pass the MOT. Going to call local SEAT dealer here in Aberdeen tomorrow to enquire about it.

brianh21

ene wrote: »

i have a 05 micra, i will be moving to the uk right after christmas. what do i need to do? is there anything i can do now that will save me stress when i move?

While I'm hopeful to have my registration sorted within the next week or two, if I was you, I'd consider selling the car in Ireland and buying one in the UK. I needed my car to transport things over and as I bought it only 12 months ago, I was reluctant to sell it in a hurry and take a big hit. It's not actually as difficult to sort out registration here as I first thought, but it's an extra hassle to deal with when you're also trying to sort out place to live, new job, etc. There's not really much you can do in advance of arriving in the UK, except make sure you have the reg certificate to prove you are the owner.

ht9zni1gs28crp

If car is taxed and insured and road legal then I wouldn't worry about changing it immediately when you land....something like 90 days/three months legally speaking.

I ran mine for three years before I changed it over...no NCT in those days. UK Cops mainly bothered about Insurance.

Frogeye

Ronan Jealous Dew wrote: »

If car is taxed and insured and road legal then I wouldn't worry about changing it immediately when you land....something like 90 days/three months legally speaking.

I ran mine for three years before I changed it over...no NCT in those days. UK Cops mainly bothered about Insurance.

My insurance covered me for 90 days outside of Ireland when I first came over to the UK. The catch was, that was the total for the year, I could only have the car outside Ireland for 30 days max at a time. Now, if something had of happened, I don't know how deep they would have dug to establish when I left Ireland to see if I was within the 30 day limit. As it happened I wasn't as I took my car home a few weeks after I landed and bought one over here.

I don't think UK companies will cover an Irish Reg car but I could be wrong, maybe they'll cover the chassis number rather than the car reg...

ht9zni1gs28crp

Frogeye wrote: »

I don't think UK companies will cover an Irish Reg car but I could be wrong, maybe they'll cover the chassis number rather than the car reg...

Most insurance companies will cover you on a foreign reg for a couple of weeks as you are getting it registered....

ossiejim

those who reregistered what was originally a UK car (such as nogoodnamesleft) did you require a certificate of conformity or did you have the original UK reg certificate(V5c)?

nogoodnamesleft

Ronan Jealous Dew wrote: »

You are entitled to your VRT back in full, hope you claimed it!!!!

I did check it out and you are incorrect. At the time I inquired I was entitled to a rebate of 350-400EUR. Not the original 3400EUR I paid for it. Coincidentally to VRT a car similar to mine now would cost about 850-900EUR. The state always wins!

The hassle, travel ,combined with the fact that I may give the car to a family member should I purchase a another car in the UK isn't worth it to me personally.

@ossiejim Since my car was originally registered in the UK I did not need a certificate of conformity as they already had the details of my vehicle on the system.

enda1

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

I did check it out and you are incorrect. At the time I inquired I was entitled to a rebate of 350-400EUR. Not the original 3400EUR I paid for it. Coincidentally to VRT a car similar to mine now would cost about 850-900EUR. The state always wins!

The hassle, travel ,combined with the fact that I may give the car to a family member should I purchase a another car in the UK isn't worth it to me personally.

@ossiejim Since my car was originally registered in the UK I did not need a certificate of conformity as they already had the details of my vehicle on the system.

I guess that was after their extortionate €500 admin charge

ht9zni1gs28crp

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

I did check it out and you are incorrect. At the time I inquired I was entitled to a rebate of 350-400EUR. Not the original 3400EUR I paid for it. Coincidentally to VRT a car similar to mine now would cost about 850-900EUR. The state always wins!

The hassle, travel ,combined with the fact that I may give the car to a family member should I purchase a another car in the UK isn't worth it to me personally.

@ossiejim Since my car was originally registered in the UK I did not need a certificate of conformity as they already had the details of my vehicle on the system.

So the market value has apparently dropped like a stone on your car and that rebate of €850 - €900 reflects current value.

So no Im not incorrect.

nogoodnamesleft

Ronan Jealous Dew wrote: »

So the market value has apparently dropped like a stone on your car and that rebate of €850 - €900 reflects current value.

So no Im not incorrect.

Yes the VRT has obviously dropped as I imported the car nearly 7 years ago. If you think the state is going to refund the original VRT paid your joking. So yes you are incorrect! You can check it out on the revenue site if your not satisfied.

If you read my post again the rebate I would get is 350-400EUR but to import the same car the same day would be approx 900EUR. A difference of 500EUR odd as enda1 stated.

ht9zni1gs28crp

I never said the full refund, obviously its market value current rate! who in their right mind would think that ESPECIALLY after seven years....bet they had a right chuckle at that in the office!

nogoodnamesleft

Ronan Jealous Dew wrote: »

I never said the full refund, obviously its market value current rate! who in their right mind would think that ESPECIALLY after seven years....bet they had a right chuckle at that in the office!

What are you exactly trying to say that hasn't already been captured in the previous posts?

I thought it was fairly obvious from the outset how the rebate would be calculated without having to reiterate it again.

Regarding the VRT office having a chuckle I wouldn't know as I understood how little rebate there was from the outset as I used the online tool ( as well as the option of being able to give the car to a family member in future).

In the effort of keeping this thread constructive the online export calculation faculty is here:

https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e1s1

For any vehicle less than an osmp of 2000EUR the vehicle does not qualify. Revenue now charge an admin fee of 500EUR to export!

Roonbox

I have just recently moved to the UK and I'm wondering if its better to just buy a car here or to import and Irish one, get the VRT refund and register it as a UK car..

I'm thinking of doing this with a bigger engine car to make it workth my while..

has anybody done this and how did you get on?