TG4 HD

marko_polo1234

Hi all, I just found this on google the other day. It seems TG4 want to broadcast in HD soon. Here are the links;

http://www1.tg4.ie/assets/files/HD-Transition-072011.pdf

http://www.ga.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=JUL249275

Any thoughts regarding this??

seanp_25

Good find.

Would this mean a move to Mux 2 down the line?

Pangea

Interesting, thanks.

mick kk

hi,
not sure if i am in the right place but anyways, I want to view something on the tg4 website. I used to watch things all the time, but over the summer they have changed/upgraded the website. When I try to watch something now, all i get it frozen images/pictures...the sound is fine but its unwatchable. I assume I need to download something to my computer but does anyone out there know what it is?
thanks

homer911

Check that you have the latest version of Flash Player installed

The Cush

Tender awarded to Broadcast Video Services Ltd, Loughlinstown Co Dublin on 14th Oct.
Value of contract - €1,858,177 excluding VAT

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=OCT279975

mcwhirter

Bit pointless, who will watch it or understand it

ardmacha

Bit pointless, who will watch it or understand it

TG4 viewers, I suppose.

mcwhirter

ardmacha wrote: »

TG4 viewers, I suppose.

Total waste of resources, TG4 get hardly any viewers compared to the other channels. Only exists due to the Irish speaking communities having too much say in this country.
It will be done for political reasons only, its ridiculous

Jofspring

Willbe great for watching the rugby though. I don't mind watching it in Irish and not all program's on TG4 are in Irish.

mcwhirter

Jofspring wrote: »

Willbe great for watching the rugby though. I don't mind watching it in Irish and not all program's on TG4 are in Irish.

The ratings will be higher when not in irish, that is the paradox.

dowtchaboy

Will the screen be 10% wider than normal HD?:)

lawhec

mcwhirter wrote: »

The ratings will be higher when not in irish, that is the paradox.

And if it wasn't for pressure from Irish language communities for a station like TG4, it simply wouldn't exist.

byte

Whilst not a fluent Gaelic speaker, I look forward to TG4 HD. It's a good channel, better than TV3.

Minstrel27

mcwhirter wrote: »

Total waste of resources, TG4 get hardly any viewers compared to the other channels. Only exists due to the Irish speaking communities having too much say in this country.
It will be done for political reasons only, its ridiculous

What a great point you put across, "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist".

Charles Slane

dowtchaboy wrote: »

Will the screen be 10% wider than normal HD?:)

Ha ha! Excellent!

dowtchaboy

byte wrote: »

Whilst not a fluent Gaelic speaker, I look forward to TG4 HD. It's a good channel, better than TV3.

Yes - since we got Saorview we have been lucky enough to run across some excellent, slightly offbeat programmes on TG4 - I don't think I have run across ANYTHING in that time on TV3 that was worth recording or forwarding to friends abroad.
Problem with TG4 is you have to make an effort to find out what's on - the others seem to be easier to "access" to use a horrible word.
The level of detail about TG4 programmes given in the papers (we use the Sunday Times guide) is not very helpful either.

swoofer

put this link in your faourites and enjoy

http://www.tg4.ie/tv-listings/tv-listings.html?date=2011-11-4

gbc-

desaparecidos

I wish TG4 would stop using Government grants to outbid RTE on match rights. They should at least off an English commentator stream.

Dozen Wicked Words

desaparecidos wrote: »

I wish TG4 would stop using Government grants to outbid RTE on match rights. They should at least off an English commentator stream.

Doubt they will, but once they get the interactive button working on 'proper' saorview they should be able to offer choice of commentary like the BBC do with football.

Gerry Wicklow

It should be noted that TG4 has english subtitles on many of it's programmes. It also has far more home produced, better quality shows than TV3's "sit a gang in a studio and waffle" style.

R P McMurphy

mcwhirter wrote: »

ardmacha wrote: »

TG4 viewers, I suppose.

Total waste of resources, TG4 get hardly any viewers compared to the other channels. Only exists due to the Irish speaking communities having too much say in this country.
It will be done for political reasons only, its ridiculous

Have some great documentaries and they do put subtitles in english

Hotblack Desiato

On the rugby last night, it was very noticeable how much poorer the picture was on TG4 compared to RTE2HD - even though we only have an SDTV.

No excuse for not offering an English commentary (or even just match sounds only) on Saorview on an additional audio channel.

watty

seanp_25 wrote: »

Good find.

Would this mean a move to Mux 2 down the line?

Ultimately the HD channels have to be spread equally between the two (or more) Mux for efficient use of the space.

fryup

will the saorview set top box..be able to pick up HD?

khumbu

dooferoaks wrote: »

Doubt they will, but once they get the interactive button working on 'proper' saorview they should be able to offer choice of commentary like the BBC do with football.

English audio was available on RTE Radio1 extra (which is on saorview) for rugby last night. I used hdmi connection on saorview box through adapter to dvi for video on TG4 & old sagem picnic box to supply audio from R1 extra. 5 second delay on video over audio. Pause function if available on picnic box would have fixed that.

The Cush

fryup wrote: »

will the saorview set top box..be able to pick up HD?

HD by default but you will also require an HD TV connected by HDMI cable to the STB. Connection via scart will display the picture in downscaled SD.

desaparecidos

khumbu wrote: »

English audio was available on RTE Radio1 extra (which is on saorview) for rugby last night. I used hdmi connection on saorview box through adapter to dvi for video on TG4 & old sagem picnic box to supply audio from R1 extra. 5 second delay on video over audio. Pause function if available on picnic box would have fixed that.

I attempted to listen to RTE Radio1 extra. I have a HTPC so opened up the RTE Radio1 extra stream in the background and had the game in the foreground. Problem is it was impossible to pause the stream, despite there being a "pause" button on the player. (clicking pause just stopped the stream, click play again would jump to the live point).

I eventually found a windows media stream of Radio1 extra, but again couldn't pause it, not in WMP, VLC, MPC-HC. Luckily this stream was slightly delayed compared to the official one so synced up OK with the game.

Barely watched the first half I was faffing around so much, tearing my hair out in frustration.

Stupid TG4 and Irish nazim.

Apogee

desaparecidos wrote: »

Stupid TG4 and Irish nazim.

I heard that the turf-fired crematoria are running 24 hours a day in Baile na hAbhainn. You can see the smoke for miles!

But apparently they're starting to run short of Zyklon-B and Jews...

mcwhirter

Minstrel27 wrote: »

What a great point you put across, "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist".

Never said it shouldn't exist, its just not a good choice putting TG4 onto HD, majority of the country can't understand irish and the listings in the newspapers too. Why not have a jewish channel as well, as they are a minority too in ireland.

Minstrel27

desaparecidos wrote: »

I wish TG4 would stop using Government grants to outbid RTE on match rights. They should at least off an English commentator stream.

Oh please. Where was RTÉ back in the days of the Celtic League. That's right, they didn't care less about it back then and only TG4 provided coverage. Do you remember those days? I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to show rugby now. TG4 didn't outbid RTÉ for last nights game either.

It amazes me how many people need English commentary for a rugby match. Do ye not understand what's happening on the field or something?

mcwhirter wrote: »

Never said it shouldn't exist, its just not a good choice putting TG4 onto HD, majority of the country can't understand irish and the listings in the newspapers too. Why not have a jewish channel as well, as they are a minority too in ireland.

I don't see why a channel moving to HD is such a problem for you. Should channels you deem to be not worthy have stayed in black and white?

It is amusing how you liken Irish speakers to the members of a religious order. You would do well to take note of the official languages of this state.

If you want a religious channel then why not start one up or petition for one. If there is demand for a Jewish channel in Ireland, I am sure someone will make it happen.

desaparecidos

Minstrel27 wrote: »

It amazes me how many people need English commentary for a rugby match. Do ye not understand what's happening on the field or something?

No it's just annoying hearing the diddly dee potatoes in the background.

Minstrel27

desaparecidos wrote: »

No it's just annoying hearing the diddly dee potatoes in the background.

You might want to get your hearing checked.

NewHillel

lawhec wrote: »

And if it wasn't for pressure from Irish language communities for a station like TG4, it simply wouldn't exist.

Many of us outside the Gaeltacht, some with minimal Irish, regularly watch TG4. It is not just for sport, either. It caters for cultural interests that are simply ignored by RTE.

MrSneeg

NewHillel wrote: »

Many of us outside the Gaeltacht, some with minimal Irish, regularly watch TG4. It is not just for sport, either. It caters for cultural interests that are simply ignored by RTE.

subtitltles are a great help

lgs 4

MrSneeg wrote: »

subtitltles are a great help

and bilingual audio in 5.1 dolby:D

The Cush

Article in yesterday's Irish Indo on TG4 - TG4: Fifteen years on, our best TV is still coming from 'little' TG4

Hotblack Desiato

Minstrel27 wrote: »

It amazes me how many people need English commentary for a rugby match. Do ye not understand what's happening on the field or something?

I had the rugby forum thread open to try to figure out what was going on - but nobody there could make sense of the ref's decisions either

Sam Russell

If we only had the 4 channels and no UK or other foreign channels, many people (including myself with no word of Irish) would discover many more of their hidden gems. I have discovered many such programmes when I have been turned off the other channels.

Our TV guides, as publishd in the papers, are very much for those with Sky, and less so, for those with UPC. None are for those with Freesat.

No attempt is made to highlight those programmes on TG4 that are worth watching.

mcwhirter

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Oh please. Where was RTÉ back in the days of the Celtic League. That's right, they didn't care less about it back then and only TG4 provided coverage. Do you remember those days? I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to show rugby now. TG4 didn't outbid RTÉ for last nights game either.

It amazes me how many people need English commentary for a rugby match. Do ye not understand what's happening on the field or something?




I don't see why a channel moving to HD is such a problem for you. Should channels you deem to be not worthy have stayed in black and white?

It is amusing how you liken Irish speakers to the members of a religious order. You would do well to take note of the official languages of this state.

If you want a religious channel then why not start one up or petition for one. If there is demand for a Jewish channel in Ireland, I am sure someone will make it happen.

I said minority group, irish speakers compare to jews

Minstrel27

You're a funny guy. Away with you now to get your black and white Jewish channel up and running.

NewHillel

MrSneeg wrote: »

subtitltles are a great help

Indeed they are.

lawhec

NewHillel wrote: »

Many of us outside the Gaeltacht, some with minimal Irish, regularly watch TG4. It is not just for sport, either. It caters for cultural interests that are simply ignored by RTE.

My comment must have been taken the wrong way - I only said that if it wasn't for the station being a primarily Irish language one, it wouldn't have been launched as the idea was to get more Irish language programming on the national airwaves. As opposed to those who say that the channel is a waste of time in having spoken Irish programming and sports commentary - there was no political will for an RTÉ3 instead of TnaG as it was then.

As an Anglophone myself, I agree that TG4 is a very good channel. If RTÉ had the same efficiency and drive as those in TG4 have with the much bigger budget that they have, you would have one of the best PSBs in Europe at Donnybrook. Irish language commentary for sports broadcasts doesn't bother me - an English option would be nice, but it's not essential as I'm more concerned with what is on the screen and that the channel is doing what it says on the tin, it has no obligation (nor should it) to accommodate non-Irish speakers any more than what it does at present.

lawhec

mcwhirter wrote: »

Never said it shouldn't exist, its just not a good choice putting TG4 onto HD, majority of the country can't understand irish and the listings in the newspapers too. Why not have a jewish channel as well, as they are a minority too in ireland.

Stupid comparison - the Irish language is a native language of the island in different dialects that has significant historical and cultural significance to the nation. Most place names in English are derived from their name in Irish and even if you were born in Ireland and you only speak English, the way you speak it is almost certainly a form that has had a significant input from Gaelic in loanwords and grammar structure. While only a small amount of the population nowadays can speak Irish fluently, it has at least survived where many other minor languages in Europe have disappeared over the last 100 years.

The impact on the Jewish faith in Ireland, I'm willing to listen.

mcwhirter

So why is boards.ie not in Irish then if it is the native language of ireland

R P McMurphy

mcwhirter wrote: »

So why is boards.ie not in Irish then if it is the native language of ireland

There is a little bit of history behind how that has come to pass

mjsmyth

It would appear to me that many who criticise TG4 don't watch it all that often... TG4 is, in my opinion, a superb channel with some excellent shows.

Like many in thse forums, I only have a FTA system, though I do have a motor on my dish. This means that I regularly watch foreign broadcasts of sporting events. I have become uesd to the non english soundtracks.

I've watched football in German, Spanish, French and Turkish, I've watched boxing in German and I've watched rugby in Irish. It's all free and all legal. If there comes a day when I positively need to have an English soundtrack, then I'll have to get Pay TV.

With regards to TG4 on Saorview, rather than TG4 reinventing the wheel and broadcasting an English soundtrack of their own, would it be possible for them to broadcast the radio soundtrack? Could they come to an agreement with RTE perhaps?

Pangea

I prefer TG4 over RTE (and I can't speak Irish). TG4 has great historical documentaries on it and various programmes from all corners of Ireland. If some of the people on this thread actually watched TG4 they would realise its not just for native speakers (thats why there is subtitles), they cover a lot of programmes that RTE would never cover. Its great to have a channel dedicated to the Irish language and to promote it. People talking about Jewish channels are just WUMs in my opinion, if you don't like the Irish language don't watch TG4.

mjsmyth

mcwhirter wrote: »

So why is boards.ie not in Irish then if it is the native language of ireland

Why should it have to be???

Minstrel27

mcwhirter wrote: »

So why is boards.ie not in Irish then if it is the native language of ireland

There is an Irish language section on this site. You are only trolling now.

mcwhirter

Pangea wrote: »

I prefer TG4 over RTE (and I can't speak Irish). TG4 has great historical documentaries on it and various programmes from all corners of Ireland. If some of the people on this thread actually watched TG4 they would realise its not just for native speakers (thats why there is subtitles), they cover a lot of programmes that RTE would never cover. Its great to have a channel dedicated to the Irish language and to promote it. People talking about Jewish channels are just WUMs in my opinion, if you don't like the Irish language don't watch TG4.

Stating jewish was an example of a minority language group here, could be arabic, polish( probably more polish speakers here than irish), spanish etc, even, dare I say it greek