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UK to debate the return of the Death Penalty!

  • 04-08-2011 3:45pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭


    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16043512

    This what the people want and it will cause quite a stir amongst the liberals thats for sure. It should never have been abolished to begin with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    The ideal deterrent to killing: More killing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    e-petitions mean something now?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    The ideal deterrent to killing: More killing.


    I think you're on to something, good work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Zero chance of bringing back the death penalty.
    If it even gets discussed I'd be surprised.
    But he said "weird" suggestions may be "filtered out" as MPs will only discuss topics Parliament could actually do something about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    I think you're on to something, good work

    Poo :(


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm sure we could get them to debate the conservation of the Atari Jaguar if we all voted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    krudler wrote: »
    e-petitions mean something now?!

    In that case, we need a boards poll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Stinicker wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16043512

    This what the people want and it will cause quite a stir amongst the liberals thats for sure. It should never have been abolished to begin with.

    How do you know it's what the people want?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    not gonna happen...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Stinicker wrote: »
    http://news.sky.com/home/politics/article/16043512

    This what the people want and it will cause quite a stir amongst the liberals thats for sure. It should never have been abolished to begin with.

    Yeah, think of all the compo they would have saved if they'd just hung the Paddys instead of wrongly locking them up for years.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    If it gets passed in the UK, I can't wait to see how well everything goes once they execute a Muslim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    The death penalty is an easy way out for those criminals truly deserving off it, they are just 'put to sleep' like a dog and get away without having the years of hell in jail they deserve. Now if it was a public firing squad or stoning, perhaps a little gas chamber exercise or even a wee bit of the 1000 cuts for mass murderous then id be all up for it tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Could we organise an e-petition to have Jedward put on the Queen's Honours List or some such? A Nation Once Again to replace God Save The Queen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭The Internet Explorer


    No to the death penalty. Yes to cannabis, euthanasia & abortion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Einhard wrote: »
    How do you know it's what the people want?

    Well obviously they are in favour of its debate and it has become a topic of interest on the e-petition so it is something people are thinking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    I wonder how the Birmingham 6 feel about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    "NAIL 'EM UP I SAY!!!!!!!!!! NAIL SOME SENSE INTO 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Well obviously they are in favour of its debate and it has become a topic of interest on the e-petition so it is something people are thinking about.

    That's not what you said though. I think the e-petition needs 100 000 signatories. Not exactly a base from which to claim that the majority of people want it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Deadly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Lumbo wrote: »
    I wonder how the Birmingham 6 feel about this


    Give them a ring and ask


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭AnneElizabeth


    Very much in two minds about the death penalty. On the one hand it does seem barbaric and I would not want to be the person who actually pushes the switch and kills the person, because technically they become a killer themselves. Also could cheapen the value of life.

    However, I do think that murders/rapists/insane people who will never have a normal life are better off dead, both for themselves, the safety of others and the cost to the state for watching them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    insane people

    :eek:

    I hope you mean the criminally insane?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,064 ✭✭✭Gurgle


    No to the death penalty. Yes to cannabis, euthanasia & abortion.

    Ah, we're thread voting...

    No to the death penalty and abortion, yes to euthanasia & cannabis and I'll raise you prostitution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    :rolleyes: talk about going backwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    cosmicfart wrote: »
    The death penalty is an easy way out for those criminals truly deserving off it, they are just 'put to sleep' like a dog and get away without having the years of hell in jail they deserve. Now if it was a public firing squad or stoning, perhaps a little gas chamber exercise or even a wee bit of the 1000 cuts for mass murderous then id be all up for it tbh

    Yeah, I'm sure trying to outdo a criminal's depravity and calling it justice is a shining example of a practice more countries should adopt into their legal system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Einhard wrote: »
    :eek:

    I hope you mean the criminally insane?



    I dont think she did, lets hear her out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    They can't bring it back in anyway with our leaving the EU so it pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Simon Cowell for Prime Minister!! Instead of taxes you could be charged a fee to text in your vote on all sorts of legislation...

    Text 50150 for the Death Penalty

    Text 50151 to leave the E.U.

    Standard network charges apply etc etc. No problems at all with such a set-up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Blatter will never allow it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    They can't bring it back in anyway with our leaving the EU so it pointless.


    There wont be an EU soon, they may get away with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Lumbo wrote: »
    I wonder how the Birmingham 6 feel about this


    Give them a ring and ask

    Jaysus DON'T! They'll never shut the fuck up with their bangin' on about 'I'm an innocent Maawwnnn...' and 'they don't understand the meaning of the word justice' and blah blah blah blah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    last year i would have been flat out against the death penalty, but some people really do have to die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    last year i would have been flat out against the death penalty, but some people really do have to die.



    Agreed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    Yeah, I'm sure trying to outdo a criminal's depravity and calling it justice is a shining example of a practice more countries should adopt into their legal system.


    to be quite honest If you do the crime then you should have the crime done onto you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Very much in two minds about the death penalty. On the one hand it does seem barbaric and I would not want to be the person who actually pushes the switch and kills the person, because technically they become a killer themselves. Also could cheapen the value of life.

    However, I do think that murders/rapists/insane people who will never have a normal life are better off dead, both for themselves, the safety of others and the cost to the state for watching them.

    Thats where I am too. There are some people who I am sorry to say, are better off for everyone if they are no longer being around. However, it should only be used for really extraordinary cases. Serial Killers, and the like.

    That said, we are very light on crime in this part of the world. Life imprisonment means about 8 years which is crazy! Id rather see them reform the current state of affairs, which sees repeat offenders with 80+ convictions given serious time, rather than the micky mouse convictions that are handed out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    cosmicfart wrote: »
    to be quite honest If you do the crime then you should have the crime done onto you



    How long have you lived in Iran?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    If it gets passed in the UK, I can't wait to see how well everything goes once they execute a Muslim.

    they'd probably delighted, means the west is falling in line with Sharia law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭Twilightning


    cosmicfart wrote: »
    to be quite honest If you do the crime then you should have the crime done onto you

    How many criminals have you heard of killing somebody with a gas chamber or a firing squad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Bring back the chain gang and forced labour tbh. Let them grow their own food etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    last year i would have been flat out against the death penalty, but some people really do have to die.

    I'm all in favour of the death penalty. No joking. I wish we still had it in Ireland. It makes me sad that serious criminals such as murderers aren't executed. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    How many criminals have you heard of killing somebody with a gas chamber or a firing squad?

    Did WWII not figure in your European history syllabus in school? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    How many criminals have you heard of killing somebody with a gas chamber or a firing squad?


    Nazis! an entire Nation! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    How many criminals have you heard of killing somebody with a gas chamber
    Quite a few...

    ;)



    /Godwinned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Completely misleading news article there. The petition has about 600 signatures at the minute.

    I'm not a mathematician, but I think that's less than 100,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    I'm all in favour of the death penalty. No joking. I wish we still had it in Ireland. It makes me sad that serious criminals such as murderers aren't executed. :(

    i don't know man. most of the clear sociopaths usually kill themselves at the end of shooting sprees but then we're seeing all of these obviously crazy people getting a decade in prison at most and then walking free. that ain't justice. what's gonna stop them from striking again?

    prison is meant to be a rehabilitation centre of sorts - if you're mentally messed up, you can't improve so what's the point. just end their lives and end the widespread fear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Green Back


    I like this petition:

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/1278

    "Public Hanging for those who propose public hanging

    Responsible department: Ministry of Justice
    When God said in the Bible "a noose for a noose" He was right. For too long sick perverts have been getting away with proposing public hanging in the UK. We say enough. The proposed punishments for some crimes are so horrific that the proper punishment for proposing this punishment is the death penalty. After all, with all that DNA science we now have, we can always prove all the time who has proposed a punishment for a crime, and then propose punishing them appropriately. So, Government, will you ConDem us to more Brussels non-justice? Or will you finally publicly hang anyone who proposes public hanging for any crime? We propose this." :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Prisoners mustn't be dying quick enough in uk prisons!.

    I expect the church here to oppose it if brought up ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    There are now two petitions on the site:

    One to restore capital punishment, another to keep it banned.

    The latter outnumbers the former by 2:1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    seamus wrote: »
    There are now two petitions on the site:

    One to restore capital punishment, another to keep it banned.

    The latter outnumbers the former by 2:1

    You shouldn't trust an e-poll to instigate a debate on such a serious issue;
    (a) There are too many irrational trolls on the internet, and
    (b) The poll could easily be rigged.

    I doubt that there is any other reason for so many people to vote so highly for capital punishment in an e-poll, unless the UK has suddenly turned psychotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Would it be even legal in EU law?.

    Wiki says belarus+latvia still have it.


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