Do I need new tyres?

sparkle_23

I just bought a car this week and I noticed the tyres have kinda cracks (don't know how else to describe it!) on them. Near the alloys and then on the eh...edge? The front two are the worst there doesn't seem to be any marks on the back ones.
My Dad says they're fine but he has a tendency to say that whenever I say somethings wrong with my car :rolleyes:
More often than not I'm right!

Here's some pics

ciarsd

Your tyres have aged and weathered. I presume the car has not had major mileage over the life of the current tyres, as the thread depth still looks quite substantial from the pics provided.

SilverBell

they are 6 (1705=week 17 year 2005) years old, but they seem to have major cracks alright. I know I'd be uneasy about that cracking too. Maybe replace the two worst cracked ones?

I wouldn't drive on them to be honest and I'm not at all OTT on car maintenance and tyres etc

vectra

I would get rid of them immediately.

If one front tyre blows when you are overtaking anything or if something is coming against you ...!!

I don't have to tell you :eek:

mickdw

jesus they are bad. get new tyres.

How old is the car and what is the mileage?

h3000

I think it's time to replace them..

SilverBell

there is even a "ding" visible in pics 4, 5 and 7. At the letter E in Goodyear.
Something may be stressed/gone inside the tyre?

bazz26

From reading the OP's other post the car is a 05 Toyota Yaris, if the tyres have a manufacturing date of 2005 then they are the original tyres. Rubber perishes over time as well as wear, I'd would not be comfortable driving on them and get the replaced as soon as you can.

mickdw

bazz26 wrote: »

From reading the OP's other post the car is a 05 Toyota Yaris, if the tyres have a manufacturing date of 2005 then they are the original tyres. Rubber perishes over time as well as wear, I'd would not be comfortable driving on them and get the replaced as soon as you can.

Seems like the OP has got a yaris with only a couple of thousand miles on it if that is the case. Brake discs have suffered too judging by the pics.

EPM

Did you buy from a garage OP? If so I'd argue a case that they should cover it as they are unfit for the road.

si_guru

mickdw wrote: »

Seems like the OP has got a yaris with only a couple of thousand miles on it if that is the case. Brake discs have suffered too judging by the pics.

I agree, the rotors look shot.

Bad tyres and brakes... there's a nice combination!

MugMugs

Time for you to go Shopping OP

Atlantic Dawn

I'd replace them, wouldn't risk going over 50km/h with them unless you fancy meeting a ditch. Looks to me like a car that was laid up for some time with flat or partly inflated tyres.

Zubeneschamali

mickdw wrote: »

Brake discs have suffered too judging by the pics.

Looks like just a bit of surface rust.

listermint

Im not seeing and utter lip on those disks so I think they are fine. Slight exaggeration there fellas.


Tyres however, have to go.

mickdw

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Looks like just a bit of surface rust.

Hard to tell exactly from the pics but I feel it might be severe rusting that will have damaged the surface of the disc too much for it to clean up satisfactorily.

si_guru

listermint wrote: »

Im not seeing and utter lip on those disks so I think they are fine. Slight exaggeration there fellas.


Tyres however, have to go.

IMHO. An outer lip would only show that they are too thin.. I think from the photos that the surface looks scored. If that car is being used rust pattern shows the pads are not touching the discs 100%.

EDIT... if the wear is more even after 1000kms then I will agree - probably okay.

sparkle_23

Oh God! Well i'll get the tyres sorted ASAP! I'd rather spend a couple of hundred euro now than have an accident... Should I get the brakes looked at too?

I bought it privately so I've no comeback.. ah well no point complaining bout it now

Nonoperational

Ah you'd get 2 good tyres cheap enough in that size. The brakes are probably ok go for a drive and do some braking and the rust should come off.

GTE

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My recommended tyre for someone who just wants a tyre to keep him/her on the road and safe, especially in the Winter, snow or no snow.

A grand tyre for a Yaris IMO. I was asked about these over PM and since have my car a good look over and they are fine. The faster side of normal wear though I think they should do 20,000 miles. Is that good or bad?
Fantastic during the snow and I actually noticed better grip on dry cold roads.
No problems during the Spring (which I think was our Summer ).

SilverBell

gpf101 wrote: »

Ah you'd get 2 good tyres cheap enough in that size. The brakes are probably ok go for a drive and do some braking and the rust should come off.

I think the same with the brakes too, wear pattern is not the best, but put a few miles on them initially and see. Maybe get em looked at anyway for pad thickness.??

mickdw

Whats the mileage on the car. It must be next to nothing?

sundodger5

that car has been unused for a quite a while.
4 new tyres without a doubt. give the brakes a couple of hundred km and see.
looks like one of the brake calipers is a bit sticky but may free off.
a bit of use may fix it but be aware.

sparkle_23

mickdw wrote: »

Whats the mileage on the car. It must be next to nothing?

4100km! So around 2000 miles is it?! bought it
from an old lady who had it from new. she lived in the town & only used it goin to mass or to the shops! she got arthritis a while back & she can't drive anymore so it was parked up 4 a while. it's immaculate though so I don't mind spending a bit to make sure everything is perfect

mickdw

Get it checked over. You dont want silly things to cause a break down. Ensure all belts & rubber hoses etc are in good condition as they were likely to suffer same as the tyres. Still its not an old car so should need very little to have it as good as new.

needadvi

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

h3000

needadvi wrote: »

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

Those tyres are far from fine, they are dangerous. Please don't give advice on a subject you don't seem to have a clue about :mad:

listermint

needadvi wrote: »

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

Hi I give unquantifiable terrible advice, please to meet you. Please dont take my username at face value........... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

YouTookMyName

needadvi wrote: »

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

Wow, Just Wow.

EPM

needadvi wrote: »

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

While advice from some randomer on the internet should never be taken as gospel it's as plain as the day is long that there is an issue here with the tyres, in particular the rubber perishing and weakening the sidewall.

MugMugs

needadvi wrote: »

Don't be silly, your dad is right, there is nothing wrong with those tyres. I'm sure your Dad out of all people wouldn't lie to you about such things, I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident. Your just scrutinising the wheels, do you scrutinise everything you own the same way you do these tyres. Chillax! Seriously don't let a mechanic or anybody else take your money unless necessary

Give me an infraction if you want MODS but "needadvi" You're a tool !

needadvi

Thanks. I have seen people drive with bald tyres, and to me these tyres seem fine! However this is hardly the place to be getting advice on tryes now is it. She should take it to a trust worthy mechanic and have his advice not just take advice from people online!

My opinion is unpopular but it is however my opinion....I don't claim to be an expert...so....it is what it is

Nonoperational

Are you serious? Jesus. I really have to refrain from what I want to say here.

EPM

MugMugs wrote: »

Give me an infraction if you want MODS but "needadvi" You're a tool !

Look, take a couple of days off. Intentional personal abuse is not ok, you could have outlined your opinion constuctively.

needadvi wrote: »

Thanks. I have seen people drive with bald tyres, and to me these tyres seem fine! However this is hardly the place to be getting advice on tryes now is it. She should take it to a trust worthy mechanic and have his advice not just take advice from people online!

My opinion is unpopular but it is however my opinion....I don't claim to be an expert...so....it is what it is

Which you're entitled to without abuse.

Now move on from this please.

cjt156

needadvi wrote: »

My opinion is unpopular but it is however my opinion....I don't claim to be an expert...so....it is what it is

...which is worthless.

There's more to tyres than tread-depth. That rubber is visibly perished, the tyres are 6 years old and need to be replaced. You are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is wrong.

GTE

needadvi wrote: »

I'm really sure he doesn't want you to have an accident.

Oh come on! Just because I am a family relation to someone doesnt override my ignorance of certain things

Joe 90

There is a view that tyres do deteriorate to an unacceptable degree after 4 years or so.
Intersting post about the Hancock tyres. The fact thet the guy who posted seems to think that they wear out fairly quickly and have good grip would suggest that they do have good grip. Definitely worth a look. Tyres with good grip do tend to wear out faster.

sean1141

replace them op. shop around and get good value and a good brand. stay away from cheap chinees crap.

as a matter of intrest we have a tractor here with the same tyres on it since 1986!!!

_Conrad_

Perished, unsafe tyres, replace. End of story.

sparkle_23

Thanks everyone I'm getting four new tyres in the morning. My Dad thought they were ok because the thread depth was fine... I can't wait to get it all sorted and get it on the road properly!

Monty.

needadvi wrote: »

Thanks. I have seen people drive with bald tyres, and to me these tyres seem fine! However this is hardly the place to be getting advice on tryes now is it. She should take it to a trust worthy mechanic and have his advice not just take advice from people online!

My opinion is unpopular but it is however my opinion....I don't claim to be an expert...so....it is what it is

Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a troll ;

You've given advice, for your own safety, now I'd like to give you some.

There is a difference between opinion and facts.
Never mind the tread, those tyres are too perished to be safe, that's a fact.
I'm not the most safety conscious guy in the world, and I'm a proud spendthrift, but I would not dare go over 30mph on them, they are very liable for a blow out. They need to be changed pronto.

As for bald tyres, do you know what the tyre tread is for ? Especially on wet roads ? Hit a wet patch with a bald tyre and you can aquaplane very quickly, it's just like hitting black ice, and you're no longer in control of the car until it decides to grip again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29

Also the stopping distance in the wet on a bald tyre is greatly increased.

kirving

If my bicycle tyres were like that, I'd be walking!

h3000

Monty. wrote: »

As for bald tyres, do you know what the tyre tread is for ? Especially on wet roads ? Hit a wet patch with a bald tyre and you can aquaplane very quickly, it's just like hitting black ice, and you're no longer in control of the car until it decides to grip again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroplaning_%28tires%29

Also the stopping distance in the wet on a bald tyre is greatly increased.

In fairness to needadvi I don't believe they were condoning bald tyres. The "these tyres" line was referring to *Sparkle*'s tyres. They believed the tyres were good because they had good thread depth. I say they may now realise the error of their ways.

Monty.

h3000 wrote: »

In fairness to needadvi I don't believe they were condoning bald tyres. The "these tyres" line was referring to *Sparkle*'s tyres. They believed the tyres were good because they had good thread depth.

I realise that, but I thought i'd state the obvious just in case for his own safety in future, if the guy thinks badly perished tyres are safe, who knows what notions he might have about slicks.

kerten

*Sparkle* wrote: »

Thanks everyone I'm getting four new tyres in the morning. My Dad thought they were ok because the thread depth was fine... I can't wait to get it all sorted and get it on the road properly!

I just bought 4 uniroyal rainexpert for my recently bought yaris because of 5 years old tyres . Paid 65E each including 14" steel rims. They are quite grippy on dry and wet but a little bit noisy due to tread design. For me wet grip is quite important for a small and lightweight car like yaris. Today I just tested them on wet and they were perfect. Highly recommended good value tyre !

L1011

bazz26 wrote: »

From reading the OP's other post the car is a 05 Toyota Yaris, if the tyres have a manufacturing date of 2005 then they are the original tyres.

I'd be a bit perturbed if my car needed balancing weights from the factory... however the age of tyres / age of car / total mileage definitely seems to suggest that they are original.

h3000

MYOB wrote: »

I'd be a bit perturbed if my car needed balancing weights from the factory... however the age of tyres / age of car / total mileage definitely seems to suggest that they are original.

You don't necessarily have to get new tyres to get your wheels balanced.


Edit:
Do wheels not get balanced at the factory? I taught balancing was used to contoract any slight variations in the mass of the rubber in the tyre as well as any slight buckles in the wheel.

sundodger5

MYOB wrote: »

I'd be a bit perturbed if my car needed balancing weights from the factory... however the age of tyres / age of car / total mileage definitely seems to suggest that they are original.

wheels and tyres from the factory will need
balancing and have balance weights. a tyre has points which are heavier, the seam for example. also the wheel is heavier where the valve is.
when you balance a wheel you are actually balancing the wheel and tyre assembly together to eliminate vibration caused by the imperfections as outlined above.

Fatswaldo

As sundodger5 correctly states, all wheel/tyre combinations will require some amount of correction to their balance (as will any assembly which induces centrifugal force when operated). The assembly has three components, the wheel, valve, and tyre. When put together, they will almost always be an imbalance. Some tyres have a marking which indicated the lightest point or the point which should be placed near the valve when fitting. This is done to minimise the amount of compensation required.

On the original point, the perished rubber will cause the tyre to be weaker at stress points in the tyre and increase the risk of separation of the layers of the tyre.

sparkle_23

A bird has left a lovely massive gift on the bonnet of my car! What's to best way to clean it off without damaging the paintwork? With my old car I couldn't give a damn but with this car I wanna keep it clean and shiny!