clonics are they good r bad?

ms. Liza

is it a good r bad idea to get a clonic?

Pace2008

I assume you're referring to colonic irrigation? There's no proven benefits associated with the procedure - your intestines are a one-way system and have evolved to purge themselves of waste quite efficiently without the aid of an external water pump.

Adding this to the fact that the whole thing sounds like a fairly unpleasant experience, I'm going to have to go with "bad idea."

The Guvnor

I've had a few - no major difference to report.

Do bear in mind these can be of more use for people who only have weekly or even less frequent movements.

I have heard of issues where the operator can/could do damage and basically cause a tear in the lining in that area etc.

No harm in giving it a go but do not expect to lose an inch off the stomach etc.

King of Kings

i think they're good - I had one and felt pretty good afterwards

as for the poster who said :

"your intestines are a one-way system and have evolved to purge themselves of waste quite efficiently without the aid of an external water pump."


well stuff gets stuck especially stuff that is new to this wonderful "evolved" system - some food items we eat are only new in the past 20- years - evolution takes longer than that

deadlybuzzman

King of Kings wrote: »

i think they're good - I had one and felt pretty good afterwards

as for the poster who said :

"your intestines are a one-way system and have evolved to purge themselves of waste quite efficiently without the aid of an external water pump."


well stuff gets stuck especially stuff that is new to this wonderful "evolved" system - some food items we eat are only new in the past 20- years - evolution takes longer than that

plus if our digestive tract was that evolved we wouldnt still have an appendix

Parsley

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

plus if our digestive tract was that evolved we wouldnt still have an appendix

evolution: you don't understand it.

deadlybuzzman

Parsley wrote: »

evolution: you don't understand it.

in that case please enlighten me

Parsley

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

in that case please enlighten me

the simple fact that we have an appendix that we don't use anymore shows that we've evolved since we did need it.

Red Cortina

Parsley wrote: »

the simple fact that we have an appendix that we don't use anymore shows that we've evolved since we did need it.

They are learning more and more about the role that gut flora plays in our health and it seems that the appendix might actually have a function.

If you even look at what Wikipedia says they talk about how the appendix serves as a haven for useful bacteria. That when illness flushes bacteria from your gut, that the appendix helps recovery by replenishing your gut flora....

Parsley

Red Cortina wrote: »

They are learning more and more about the role that gut flora plays in our health and it seems that the appendix might actually have a function.

If you even look at what Wikipedia says they talk about how the appendix serves as a haven for useful bacteria. That when illness flushes bacteria from your gut, that the appendix helps recovery by replenishing your gut flora....

that is interesting. however the point of evolving since we used to eat grass is still valid...

SanoVitae

King of Kings wrote: »

i think they're good - I had one and felt pretty good afterwards

Much like a prostrate exam, I'm sure anyone would feel great after the tube was removed from up their jacksy......

Brian?

SanoVitae wrote: »

King of Kings wrote: »

i think they're good - I had one and felt pretty good afterwards

Much like a prostrate exam, I'm sure anyone would feel great after the tube was removed from up their jacksy......

You obviously haven't had one done so, you don't have a length of tube up your "jacksy". It's not uncomfortable at all.

As to the original question, it really depends on why you want it.

SanoVitae

briankeating wrote: »

You obviously haven't had one done so, you don't have a length of tube up your "jacksy". It's not uncomfortable at all.

I never said it involved having the length of tube inside - that's why I compared it to having a prostrate exam....

It's actually something I've been curious about for many years. The more I read about it though, the less inclined I am to give it a go.

deadlybuzzman

Parsley wrote: »

the simple fact that we have an appendix that we don't use anymore shows that we've evolved since we did need it.

and my point carrying on from the one made that we now eat foods that have only been around for 20 years is that the digestive system isnt necessarily perfect- e.g. we have a vestigal organ that can kill you-so really were not all THAT evolved.
Evolution doesnt require an organism to be perfect, just to avoid death long enough to pass on its genes.

Dawkins: Go read some

Parsley

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

and my point carrying on from the one made that we now eat foods that have only been around for 20 years is that the digestive system isnt necessarily perfect- e.g. we have a vestigal organ that can kill you-so really were not all THAT evolved.
Evolution doesnt require an organism to be perfect, just to avoid death long enough to pass on its genes.

Dawkins: Go read some

...any of your organs can go tits up and kill you.

for the record i agree about the whole imperfect digestive system RE: modern foods, but that first comment you made seemed to give the impression you had the concept of evolution the wrong way around. if bursting appendixes were that much of an evolutionary problem, we wouldn't be here! for all we know it's caused by modern food :pac:

Roger Marbles

Last time I checked, the appendix had a serious amount of lymphoid tissue. The idea that it is a vestigial organ is rather outdated.

You have tonsils and an appendix for good reason. They contain a lot of lymphpoid tisse.

Brian?

SanoVitae wrote: »

I never said it involved having the length of tube inside - that's why I compared it to having a prostrate exam....

Apologies, didn't mean to put words in your mouth.

It's actually something I've been curious about for many years. The more I read about it though, the less inclined I am to give it a go.

What exactly put you off?