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Kotaku Review: http://kotaku.com/5962027/borderlands-2-mr-torgues-campaign-of-carnage-the-kotaku-review
TL;DR: Fun, but not memorable, and definitely not as good as Scarlett.
I've only done a few of the missions and so far it doesn't have the same feel to it as Scarlett, Torgue is funny in a Hulk Hogan way but so far he jabbers away on the echo more than Jack did.
The review said it was light on side quests but I've seen at least 4 boards so far, granted they were not active but they do show on the map as green "!" so I assumed they would give out quests later.
Edit: I did come across a van / trailer on my travels and from it's decorations it most certainly belongs to Tina so I assume she'll be along later
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Hmm. Steam is set to auto update, and it recognises I have purchased the season pass but its not downloading/updating my game.
I have verified the game cache, so that's ok-cant see it on the steam store either.
You all playing xbox by any chance?0 -
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Cookie_Monster wrote: »oh dear, scarlett was poor to say the least
I quite enjoyed it, this is not as good though I was delighted to seeMoxxigetting a prominent role, easily my favorite character
Best line in it isWhen you have to collect the lost echos Torgue "Tina said Goodnight Moxxi, Shows over 0 -
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Might want to spoiler tag up the name there Penn, that one is part of the main story earlier on in the DLC.
Deffo easier than Gee but Hyperious? It's a fight that needs to be ended as quickly as possible I found, every time you turn those valves the mobs level increase and I found it difficult to keep my shield up later in the fight making my bee a liability The last time I finished him the mobs spawning were level 66 :eek:
His loot his probably the best I've seen drop from one boss though, and he drops more seriphs than the others, got a sweet legendary impaler shield from him that shoots homing corrosive spikes when you take bullet damage, and a legendary brawler class mod for my zerker which is the same as the slayer one except it's +5 to the stats instead of +4 0 -
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based on my criticisms that others could point out what they DO like.
Challenge accepted.quarryman wrote:Bad points:
Repetitive cookie cutter environments.
It's just so blandly generic and soul-less. Textures are so poor in parts. I know some people love cell-shading, I'm not one of them.
As far as I know, the prototype of borderlands was one of those bland green and brown shooters, and they switched it to the cell shading. I love the style - it's distinctive, it's fun and doesn't take itself too seriously. The original may have had a limited palette (for the first two thirds anyway), but the sequel has a ton of variety - snow, desert, green areas, cities, caves, lava.... FWIW, give me FUN over graphics any day.quarryman wrote:Enemy spawning. Reach a trigger point and they just "appear". No immersion whatsoever. An abundance of buildings with no doors that open, merely to serve a entrance points for spawned bad guys.
Hmmmm.... Sounds like COD to me. Except COD funnels you from one end of each brown level to the other end. Borderlands has huge open areas and freedom to explore.quarryman wrote:Way too much loot. Most of which I have already. More than half of the time I open a box to find I'm "full" on that item. How hard is it to modify the contents to suit what you might actually need.
Irrelevant. I've never run out of ammo in Borderlands 2. Plus the ammo is persistent (as long as you stay on a map), so you can come back and collect it later when you need it.
Oh and there is no such thing as too much loot.quarryman wrote:Too many weapons. You could spend half your life comparing every weapon when in reality, it makes very little difference, it'll be useless once you level up. It just feels like they overwhelm you with too many weapons that too few differences between them.
You learn to quickly compare weapons (without even picking them up), it becomes second nature and an addictive part of the game. I've had some weapons for the last 2 or 3 levels because they suit my needs.quarryman wrote:The whole thing is just generic blandness. Ugh. Don't know how the ratings are so high for it. Makes me sad for gaming if this is what people consider a "great" game.
Both games are huge. They are challenging, addictive, immersive, fun - and double all that on New Game+. You have the flexibility to take available sub-quests in any order, a vast single player campaign that takes a huge amount of time to finish (I'm nearly 48 hours into my first play-through of Borderlands 2). You have some of the best DLC out of any game (better than dull map packs for other FPS games). The game has some of the funniest writing and best characters in recent memory.
But if you don't like it, you don't like it.
For what its worth, the likes of Halo and COD bore me to tears (coincidentally for some of the same reasons that you don't like Borderlands).0 -
Borderlands 2 just hit something in me that keeps me coming back to it even more so than the 1st game, those who know me know what an achievement whore I am and how quickly I will play finish and never come back to a game, and move on to the next one, but Bl2 has defied all of that and has kept my interest long after achievements were earned.
I guess this is how some feel about halo / cod / battlefield etc???? it's a new experience on me So it's all down to taste at the end of the day , just because you didn't enjoy borderlands 2 doesn't mean you were playing it wrong or that it was rubbish it just wasn't for you, same way COD or Halo are not for me 0 -
Hmmmm.... Sounds like COD to me. Except COD funnels you from one end of each brown level to the other end. Borderlands has huge open areas and freedom to explore.
Why compare to COD? (which I also hate by the way). It's an on the rails shooter that has a campaign mode tacked on to its real target audience of online players. A silly comparison really.Irrelevant. I've never run out of ammo in Borderlands 2. Plus the ammo is persistent (as long as you stay on a map), so you can come back and collect it later when you need it.
Really? I must be doing something wrong then. In the few hours I've given it I've regularly run out of ammoOh and there is no such thing as too much loot.
There is when it's just slightly different versions of something else you have that will be worthless 20 minutes later.Both games are huge. They are challenging,
They're only challenging if you pick a mission above your current level and in those cases it's often a case of cat and mouse with the enemy due to his +x% health over yours. It's not that the AI improves, it's just a health modifier due to his level. Boring.immersive,
It bloody well is not immersive. Unless you derive immersion from slot machines, continuously slogging away, gaining occasional improvement, doing the same action repeatedly hoping for slightly better results. The environment is so blatantly contrived and scaled it actually destroys any immersion.
Morrowind, Amnesia, Stalker. Those are immersive games. Borderlands is just cookie cutter drivel.double all that on New Game+.
eh, no thanks.You have some of the best DLC out of any game (better than dull map packs for other FPS games).
Stop comparing it to other FPS games. It really doesn't fall into the same category. If anything its more of a button mashing soul-less MMORPG than an FPS. I can't comment on the DLC. I'd need to complete the game first to consider it.The game has some of the funniest writing and best characters in recent memory.
Woah. Let's not go overboard here. It's good. Best in recent memory?
Presumably then your memory doesn't stretch back as far as Planescape Torment, Grim Fandango, Portal 1/2? Monkey Island? Those are funny games. Borderlands is mildly humourous. The writing is decent enough.For what its worth, the likes of Halo and COD bore me to tears (coincidentally for some of the same reasons that you don't like Borderlands).
This is the last FPS comparison I'm allowing you
Halo and COD are FPS's. Borderlands is a loot pinata. It's the same task over and over again against incrementally improved enemies dropping incrementally better weapons. If anything, you should be comparing it to Diablo 3 *shudder*.
And you don't like Halo because of the reasons I don't like Borderlands? Its generic, poorly designed has too many weapons and too much loot? Have you ever even played Halo? It has some of the best level design of any game. The weapon system is almost perfect. And too much loot? Cmon.
I'm not saying its a bad game. But it's no better than good. I'm never going to get support or agreement on the game thread but I just want to voice my opinion on why I think it's hugely over-rated. I'm glad you guys enjoy it! I'm off to play something better - I still haven't got around to completing Superman 64.0 -
Stop comparing it to other FPS games. It really doesn't fall into the same category. If anything its more of a button mashing soul-less MMORPG than an FPS. I can't comment on the DLC. I'd need to complete the game first to consider it.
This is the last FPS comparison I'm allowing you
Halo and COD are FPS's. Borderlands is a loot pinata. It's the same task over and over again against incrementally improved enemies dropping incrementally better weapons. If anything, you should be comparing it to Diablo 3 *shudder*.
I don't want to address most of your points, because I don't think it'll matter much but..
... Well, primarily it's an FPS. Sure, it has RPG elements (bare) but at it's core it's still an FPS. So comparisons with FPSs are pretty much bang on. Halo and COD are also, as you say, .... the same task over and over again ... sorry, I may have mixed up paragraphs there. It's as button mashing as the other FPSs are.
I don't say BL2 is a fantastic genre-changing game... but it's a very good game. It's an excellent amalgam of a few different ideas. None particularly original, but still a very addictive combination all the same. For most anyways.0 -
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dreamers75 wrote: »tbh quarryman you arguing for the sake of arguing.
trolling it another word for it.
Posting a lot of crap about a very simple game.
Shoot people, loot ****, get better weapons.
its that simple.
Relax. I'm not saying the game is ****, I'm just saying that *I* just think its ****. There's no trolling going on. I outlined my reasons clearly, that's what a forum is for, right? Am I not allowed voice my views on a game you evidently like?
Rather than "posting a lot of crap", as you called it I detailed my issues with the title in as best I could.
I love talking about games, whether I love or loathe them!0 -
Relax. I'm not saying the game is ****, I'm just saying that *I* just think its ****. There's no trolling going on. I outlined my reasons clearly, that's what a forum is for, right? Am I not allowed voice my views on a game you evidently like?
Rather than "posting a lot of crap", as you called it I detailed my issues with the title in as best I could.
I love talking about games, whether I love or loathe them!
Out of interest, did you like Diablo? That's what I find borderlands to be most like.0 -
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