what supplements for kickboxing?

lakes1985

im training 4 days a week doing kickboxing, i used to go to the gym alot but recently quit because really didnt have the time anymore. Im 6ft and 16st i wouldnt call myself fat but wouldnt mind losing a half stone to stone. iv always been taking whey protein and just wondering if maybe i should be taking something else maybe so that il gain lean muscle?? any recommendations greatly appreciated

Hanley

If you want to lose fat, you need to have a kcal deficit.

If you want to gain muscle, you need to have a kcal surplus.

You can't do both, so which do you want more? If you want the latter you'll also need to start training with weights.

If you decide to try and lose fat, eat 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight - it'll help stop you losing any muscle you do have. You can use the whey to achieve this figure.

As for a supplement to encourage muscle growth - there are none. You need to eat properly, train hard and get sufficient sleep.

Killme00

What Hamley said...

..but, at 16st i would consider you fat. There's your priority right there.

lakes1985

my bmi is 22.5

Hanley

lakes1985 wrote: »

my bmi is 22.5

No, it's not.

osullic

Your BMI is 30.4

Rossin

how can anyone know his bmi without seeing/measuring him or whatever it is you do?

im the 5ft 11" but only 12.5 stone and in reasonable shape, id love to know what mine is, just to know like

the mirror seems to be the best judge but id still be interested to know how

osullic

Rossin wrote: »

how can anyone know his bmi without seeing/measuring him or whatever it is you do?

im the 5ft 11" but only 12.5 stone and in reasonable shape, id love to know what mine is, just to know like

the mirror seems to be the best judge but id still be interested to know how

Think you're confusing body fat % with BMI, BMI is just a simple calculation using height and weight. Its a simple calculation but its accuracy is limited especially when measuring BMI of athletes or those with a lot of muscle mass.

Hanley

osullic wrote: »

Think you're confusing body fat % with BMI, BMI is just a simple calculation using height and weight. Its a simple calculation but its accuracy is limited especially when measuring BMI of athletes or those with a lot of muscle mass.

...I'm assuming the OP doesn't fall into either category based on his posting, for the record. He's probably trained, is fit and carries some muscle, but not enough to distort BMI readings significantly.

Rossin

aaaah okay jumped the gun there a bit! thanks

Mellor

Rossin wrote: »

im the 5ft 11" but only 12.5 stone and in reasonable shape, id love to know what mine is, just to know like

Seeing as you asked, your BMI is 24.4

osullic wrote:

Think you're confusing body fat % with BMI, BMI is just a simple calculation using height and weight. Its a simple calculation but its accuracy is limited especially when measuring BMI of athletes or those with a lot of muscle mass.

There are very few people over 100/kg/16 stone who are athletic enough, or carrying enough muscle for BMI not to apply to them. The ones that do, got their by hard work and having a good handle on their training and diet, I doubt they look for basic advice on forums.
The guys weren't trying to put the OP down, but unless there is a mistake in his OP, I would also consider him overweight.

Hanley

lakes1985 wrote: »

i got my bmi done by a gym instructor in limerick, it was 22.5, the reason I wanna lose weight is because I carry a little extra weight around my stomach like most men do! so I have somebody on this telling me thats not my correct BMI who hasnt even seen me! who should I listen too??? I think the gym instructor in limerick!the reason i looked for advice was because even wit all my hard training I still always have bit of a gut,thats why i wanted to lose weight!

Well don't listen to your trainer, because if he's managed to f*ck up such a basic calculation I'd hate to see what sorta mess he'd create when he was training you.

lakes1985

delete this thread!

metamorphosis

OP, if you want I can lock it, but i see no reason to delete it.

BMI is a basic calculation that you can do yourself using weight and height, no one needs to be able to see you to calculate your bmi.

Rossin

Mellor wrote: »

Seeing as you asked, your BMI is 24.4

Thanks mellor

Hanley

lakes1985 wrote: »

delete this thread!

So you don't actually want advice then?

dartstothesea

Is there any chance this guy actually means he was told his bodyfat % is 22.5? Sounds possible for a 6'0 100kg'er, depending. Lots of people at that weight aren't 'fat', lots are too but you couldn't assume without seeing like.
Nothing to do with me being the same height and weight :pac:

King of Kings

darts is spot on - based on the OP i'd imagine he could be a 22.5% bf rather than BMI of 22.5


as for a supplement - have a look at Pro Matrix from Nutrition X.
It gives protein (througha blended protein) to retain muscle but helps burn fat with the L-Carnitine

Otherwise the other supplements I'd recommend for kickboxing are

fish oil, multi vit and a joint support
if you are really bollocked then some zma can help aid your sleep for recovery

but none of them are essential

lakes1985

dartstothesea wrote: »

Is there any chance this guy actually means he was told his bodyfat % is 22.5? Sounds possible for a 6'0 100kg'er, depending. Lots of people at that weight aren't 'fat', lots are too but you couldn't assume without seeing like.
Nothing to do with me being the same height and weight :pac:

think u might actually be right there, my bad!

lakes1985

King of Kings wrote: »

darts is spot on - based on the OP i'd imagine he could be a 22.5% bf rather than BMI of 22.5


as for a supplement - have a look at Pro Matrix from Nutrition X.
It gives protein (througha blended protein) to retain muscle but helps burn fat with the L-Carnitine

Otherwise the other supplements I'd recommend for kickboxing are

fish oil, multi vit and a joint support
if you are really bollocked then some zma can help aid your sleep for recovery

but none of them are essential

thanks bud, got a PVL iso gold protein from vitamin shop & a trec thermo fat burner! have multi vits & cod liver oil tablets that im taking now!! finally some helpful advice!:)

Mellor

lakes1985 wrote: »

think u might actually be right there, my bad!

The difference between BMI and BF% was already point out ages ago. As was the fact that its based on height and weight, and that nobody needs to see you. You may or may not be 22.5% bodyfat, I've no idea how this trainer calculated this.

If you weren't so insistant that you were 22.5 BMI and we were all wrong. You might of realised that you got all the advice you need in the first reply. Protein, fish oil, multi vits etc are all well and good, but the fact that they are missing from your diet is not your biggest concern right now.

SanoVitae

lakes1985 wrote: »

finally some helpful advice!:)

Those who took the time to educate you on the difference between BMI and BF% were being extremely helpful....