UFC 133 Discussion *Spoilers*

scudzilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGupaeKnPY

Main card

* Light Heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs Tito Ortiz
* Middleweight bout: Vitor Belfort vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
* Welterweight bout: Dennis Hallman vs. Brian Ebersole
* Middleweight bout: Jorge Rivera vs. Costantinos Philippou
* Welterweight bout: Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Pyle

Preliminary card (Spike TV)

* Light Heavyweight bout: Matt Hamill vs. Alexander Gustafsson
* Featherweight bout: Chad Mendes vs. Rani Yahya

Preliminary card (Facebook)

* Bantamweight bout: Ivan Menjivar vs. Nick Pace
* Welterweight bout: Johny Hendricks vs. Mike Pierce
* Featherweight bout: Mike Brown vs. Nam Phan
* Middleweight bout: Rafael Natal vs. Paul Bradley[1]

scudzilla

Gonna go for Tito in this, i know i'll get slated for it but i really believe he'll win on points

Belfort should beat Sexyyama, again on point's i'd say

Looking forward to seein how Nam Phen does

Not the best card i've ever seen but certainly not the worst

riffmongous

Alright card but I don't think I'll stay up for it.

Akiyama-Belfort is the most interesting one for me, another loss for Akiyama and he's either getting a title shot or the sack . Seriously though since almost every fight he's in is gold I sincerely hope he fights smart for once and gets the win so he can stay in the UFC.

MrStuffins

scudzilla wrote: »

Looking forward to seein how Nam Phen does

As much as I like Nam Phan, a win for him would be a loss for Mike Brown. He loses and he's gone I reckon! I wanna see him come back to the heights he hit when he was the FW Champ and smashing Faber, Garcia and everyon else!

Mellor

riffmongous wrote: »

Akiyama-Belfort is the most interesting one for me, another loss for Akiyama and he's either getting a title shot or the sack . Seriously though since almost every fight he's in is gold I sincerely hope he fights smart for once and gets the win so he can stay in the UFC.

Disagree completely. Akiyama is safe.
There is no rule that if you lose 3 you are gone. Tito went 5 without a win.
Look at the recent fights Akiyama has been in. Brawl with Belcher, Brawl with Leben, 3 rounder with Bisping.
All fight of the night awards.
I'm expecting the same again here, cotender for FoTN. Win lose or draw, he's staying in the UFC.

Tito is losing, blames it only only 5 weeks. It's win/win for him and he knows it. Very smart guy when it comes to gettign the money tbf.

Dennis Hallman to beat Brian Ebersole. Ebersole realy bugged me in sydney (127). Thought it was brutal, and that stupid cartwheel kick was lol bad, as was his cheat strikes. His cardio was good however, and he only won because Lytle gassed due to being sick.

Jorge Rivera vs. Costantinos Philippou
I really wanted Sakara to smash Rivera. I don't like the way bisping carried on after 127, but Rivera was just a big a tool the whole way up. Promoting a fight he was always losing in order to get soem column inches. I guess it work seeign as we are now facing two cans on the main card. I ahven't a clue here, they both look sh1te.

Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Pyle
I like pyle, but Rory think rory grinds out a decision here.

Matt Hamill vs. Alexander Gustafsson
Another 127 fighter, who looked good verses Te Huna. But I think Matt is a step above in class. Matt will always be a gate keeper, and should of dropped to 185 long ago, but I think he is good enough here to wrestle a win.

Johny Hendricks vs. Mike Pierce
Hemdricks are fought the better guys imo (Pierce fought Fitch be lost in a 3 rounder, surprise surprise)

Ivan Menjivar vs. Nick Pace
Pace has potential, should out strike Menjivar


I'll prob makes the above bets, depending on price and value

PerrinV2

Has anyone see "Ufc 133:verbal warfare Part 2" vid on the ufc facebook?Its between Rashad and Tito and goes on for about a minute but at the end tito delievers the best comeback ever after Rashad goes on for a bit all serious.

Ninja edit:found the vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0cqWsO5rE

Devastator

scudzilla wrote: »

Not the best card i've ever seen but certainly not the worst

which sometimes go onto to be some of the best cards

DrumSteve

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Has anyone see "Ufc 133:verbal warfare Part 2" vid on the ufc facebook?Its between Rashad and Tito and goes on for about a minute but at the end tito delievers the best comeback ever after Rashad goes on for a bit all serious.

Ninja edit:found the vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0cqWsO5rE

".... That's what she said."

Brilliant.

The Freeman

DrumSteve wrote: »

".... That's what she said."

Brilliant.

I can imagine both of them were in stitches after that comment at the end. lol

Zero-Cool

Devastator wrote: »

which sometimes go onto to be some of the best cards

Very true!

fightireland

Devastator wrote: »

which sometimes go onto to be some of the best cards

I tried to put that more eloquently earlier but emm couldn't...

I think there is "quality" on display in every fight on this card and although not every casual MMA fan will know all of the fighters I think we are guranteed a great night.

I'm staying up for the potential "oh no he didn't" moment when Tito beats Rashad

MrStuffins

Watching the Countdown show and gotta say, just as well Rory mcDonald is an exciting fighter because he has the personality of a grapefruit!

Mellor

Anthonyk2010

fightireland wrote: »

Devastator wrote: »

which sometimes go onto to be some of the best cards

I tried to put that more eloquently earlier but emm couldn't...

I think there is "quality" on display in every fight on this card and although not every casual MMA fan will know all of the fighters I think we are guranteed a great night.

I'm staying up for the potential "oh no he didn't" moment when Tito beats Rashad

What time will tito's fight start? And where can I watch it?

MrStuffins

Anthonyk2010 wrote: »

What time will tito's fight start? And where can I watch it?

It'll be at the end of the broadcast, perhaps around 4am.

You can watch it in the Wells Fargo Centre in Phillidephia (or, if you don't wanna travel there you can watch on ESPN at 2am. It's part of the regular sports package on Sky now so if you have Sky Sports you'll have ESPN)

Mellor

I know its the main event, but if your only going to watch one fight its not the tito fight you should be worried about.

I'd say about 3-4am at the latest. They're be plenty of streams about at that stage. But tuned in much earlier as some of the others have so much potential.

Sexyama to get 4 fight of the night awards on the go

MrStuffins

Mellor wrote: »

I know its the main event, but if your only going to watch one fight its not the tito fight you should be worried about.

I'd say about 3-4am at the latest. They're be plenty of streams about at that stage. But tuned in much earlier as some of the others have so much potential.

Sexyama to get 4 fight of the night awards on the go

Mendes v Yahya for FOTN

Speaking of that........... is there a Pre-Lims special on tonight? its not in the listings (but rarely is)

Anthonyk2010

Mellor wrote: »

I know its the main event, but if your only going to watch one fight its not the tito fight you should be worried about.

I'd say about 3-4am at the latest. They're be plenty of streams about at that stage. But tuned in much earlier as some of the others have so much potential.

Sexyama to get 4 fight of the night awards on the go

Will do that. Where will I find the streams?

MrStuffins

Anthonyk2010 wrote: »

Will do that. Where will I find the streams?

Stick to this thread around Go-Time! There will be plenty.

In the meantime, you can watch the prelims live for free on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/UFC

I'm guessing they start at 11?

DanielC95

Here Are All My Prediction's
Rafael Natal To Win Via Decision(Unanimous)
Mike Brown To Win Via TKO RD 2
Johnny Hendricks To Win Via Tko Rd3
Nick Pace Via Submission Rd 2
Chad Mendes Via Decision(Split)
Matt Hamill Via Decision(Unanimous)
Rory MacDonald Via Decision(Unanimous)
Jorge Rivera Via KO RD 1
Brian Ebersole Via Decision(Split)
Co-Main Event Vitor Belfort Via TKO RD 2
Main Event Rashad Evans Via TKO RD3

enemy

did ivan menjivar make weight? i was suprised he was 2 pounds over, considering he's been fighting professional for so long.

callaway92

DanielC95 wrote: »

Here Are All My Prediction's
Rafael Natal To Win Via Decision(Unanimous)
Mike Brown To Win Via TKO RD 2
Johnny Hendricks To Win Via Tko Rd3
Nick Pace Via Submission Rd 2
Chad Mendes Via Decision(Split)
Matt Hamill Via Decision(Unanimous)
Rory MacDonald Via Decision(Unanimous)
Jorge Rivera Via KO RD 1
Brian Ebersole Via Decision(Split)
Co-Main Event Vitor Belfort Via TKO RD 2
Main Event Rashad Evans Via TKO RD3

So you're guessing that Mendes and Ebersole will both win, but only 2 judges will score the fights for each of them and 1 judge will score the fights for their opponents? Strange. . .

DanielC95

Yeah I Guess It's Strange to say split for the mendes fight but for the ebersole fight well he is coming against a wrestler so he may lose a round just if he gets taken down an another one could be close , its experience vs experience but I think ebersole did a great job beating Lytle cause he had lot of momentum going into the bout and ebersole took it so i think he will edge out a victory with the tough hallman..

JoeyJJ

Think this is going to be a cracking card. Really looking forward to McDonald, hope he does a few slams tonight and of course the main event should be very good, Tito does look in good shape could go either way if it goes to decision i expect 29-28.

Pity prelims not on espn. Facebook will have to do.

tower08

anyone putting an accumulator together?

might threw a few quid on tito @ 3/1 for the craic!

cardio,shoot me

DanielC95 wrote: »

Yeah I Guess It's Strange to say split for the mendes fight but for the ebersole fight well he is coming against a wrestler so he may lose a round just if he gets taken down an another one could be close , its experience vs experience but I think ebersole did a great job beating Lytle cause he had lot of momentum going into the bout and ebersole took it so i think he will edge out a victory with the tough hallman..

Split decision does not mean 29-28, thats still a unanimous decision, predicting a split decision is kind of stupid unless leonard garcia is fighting.

callaway92

tower08 wrote: »

anyone putting an accumulator together?

might threw a few quid on tito @ 3/1 for the craic!

Mike Brown, Mike Pierce, Alexander Gustafsson & Vitor Belfort all to win pays just over 4/1. I'll snap the hand off that

A single for Mike Pyle to beat Rory McDonald might be good value too. He handled John Hathaway with ease.

mailburner

got 8/1 on ebersole, pierce and philippou so a small bet on that

nice bet then on ebersole at 21/20

hamill overpriced at 6/4 maybe

evans by decision
belfort by ko
macdonald points

fightireland

Get these quick almost time

http://www.fightireland.com/2011/08/make-money-watching-ufc-133.html

DanielC95

cardio,shoot me wrote: »

Split decision does not mean 29-28, thats still a unanimous decision, predicting a split decision is kind of stupid unless leonard garcia is fighting.

Well Not really cause wrestler can rob rounds with one take down an we all know about the dodgy judging in MMA

darced

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Jaysis I have two accumulators with Hendricks on each and that was scary for a minute. :P

unknown13

This card is very dull and bad. That arena is cursed for UFC events. 101 was the worst card of '09 and this is already a contender for worst card of '11

unknown13

unknown13 wrote: »

This card is very dull and bad. That arena is cursed for UFC events. 101 was the worst card of '09 and this is already a contender for worst card of '11

4 fights in? really?

unknown13

Deleted User wrote: »

4 fights in? really?

Yup, all were dull and went to decision.

Tones69

unknown13 wrote: »

Yup, all were dull and went to decision.

Theres 8 fights left dude, would be great to see 4 fights with 4 super KO's but unfortunately we're living in the real world

Oh_Noes

Any good streams for the prelims? Sopcast is really low res and all the others seem to be covering some riot in the UK.

slayerking

If you go to the facebook live page and click on the third thumbnail in entitled 'PRELIMS' its working at the mo. Currently on the Hamil vs Gustafson... seems to be the spike feed!!!

The first link doesnt work, its the third one in

Tinie

What time does the main card start irish time? And about what time will the Ortiz v Rashad fight be at?

Jaych1000

Facebook link:
http://www.facebook.com/UFC#!/UFC?sk=app_116056818485426

It's the 3rd thumbnail.

scudzilla

Wow, that kid looks very impressive

Oh_Noes

Savage finish.

Axwell

Tinie wrote: »

What time does the main card start irish time? And about what time will the Ortiz v Rashad fight be at?

Right now, 2am and anytime from about 4am onwards for the Tito fight just to make sure you catch the start of it. But I wouldnt miss the Belfort Akiyama fight, could be a lot better and its on just before Tito.

jtsuited

anyone got a stream?

Tinie

jtsuited wrote: »

anyone got a stream?

http://cjstreems.blogspot.com/index.html

jtsuited

thanks...had just found one but it wasn't as good as the one you just posted. shweet.

Tinie

No problem... another one in case that goes down or something: http://www.azsportz.eu/p/ch1.html

evil_seed

Damn son! Very impressive!

tower08

evil_seed wrote: »

Damn son! Very impressive!

very!

Leeg17

jtsuited wrote: »

anyone got a stream?

I may be repeating what's already been said before, but it's on ESPN which is now free on Sky if you get Sky Sports Package (and possibly with UPC too), first time watching it on the TV as opposed to downloaded or on a stream.

Good first match, had expected Pyle to win, but the young lad deserved the win imo.

Oh_Noes

Christ Rory McDonald just turned 22. I'd say he's going to be a mainstay of UFC for the next decade or two. Maybe even a champ if he keeps developing so well.