Do you believe in the supernatural?

Downlinz

Ghosts, spirits, Ouija boards. Anything of that nature.

Needler

Of course!

RichieC

Of course.. one plant.. 3 grand lewt... super natural.

MungBean

No. Cos I'm not a fukin idiot.

Kojak

Where is the Atari Jaguar option in the poll?

Biggins

No.

jc002

Hell yes.

krudler

Nope

Chuck Stone

I don't believe in any of that rubbish.




except for banshees

Needler

I believe in Chuck Norris

Hank_Jones

I believe that some people allow their imaginations to run away with them.

Needler

Hank_Jones wrote: »

I believe that some people allow their imaginations to run away with them.

Like the fella who's living in 2019?

Kylo Ren

Yes but only because I believe in The Ghostbusters.

Kojak

Needler wrote: »

I believe in Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

policarp

Does the Tooth Fairy count?

ScummyMan

policarp wrote: »

Does the Tooth Fairy count?

No, dont be stupid thats not real.

Now the Easter Bunny on the other hand...

Angron

Nope, though I don't rule out aliens.

Tehachapi

Ever notice how the majority (not all) of people who believe in the supernatural are from a working class background. It ties in with the whole low levels of education, etc. </controversial>

marcsignal

I believe that there are things about the universe, and our existance, that we do not yet understand.

call it what you like.

Hank_Jones

Needler wrote: »

Like the fella who's living in 2019?

Indeed, there's also a search ongoing for a group of replicants that must be killed, or retired, if you will.

jc002

Tehachapi wrote: »

Ever notice how the majority (not all) of people who believe in the supernatural are from a working class background. It ties in with the whole low levels of education, etc. </controversial>

I hope Casper & friends "ghost" yer missus. Oh wait, yer missus does not exist..

Juuuuuuuuuuust kidding :rolleyes:

MyKeyG

My ex had MASSIVE knockers and they were super natural.

Emiko

There's any amount of unexplained incidents in the world.

Whether they're supernatural or not remains to be seen.

I'm agnostic on the issue.

Davidius

Kojak wrote: »

Chuck Norris can divide by zero.

Well that's not all that impressive. I can divide by zero too.

Forest Master

Kojak wrote: »

Where is the Atari Jaguar option in the poll?

OP probably isn't a tosser.

py2006

Tehachapi wrote: »

Ever notice how the majority (not all) of people who believe in the supernatural are from a working class background. It ties in with the whole low levels of education, etc. </controversial>

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!

There are people from all walks of life, all cultures and religions, all levels of education, poor or rich who believe they have experienced something that could be classed as supernatural.

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!

There are people from all walks of life, all cultures and religions, all levels of education, poor or rich who believe they have experienced something that could be classed as supernatural they didn't understand.

FYP

I don't think its a class issue at all btw

py2006

rossc007 wrote: »

FYP

I don't think its a class issue at all btw

You can have your opinion, but don't don't intentionally misquote me!

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

You can have your opinion, but don't don't intentionally misquote me!

You do know what FYP means right?

orourkeda

What cant be explained cant be readily dismissed.

Better to keep an open mind on something that cant be explained than guess at what it might or might not be.

py2006

rossc007 wrote: »

You do know what FYP means right?

My opinions, observations etc do not need to be fixed by you!

I understand your opinion but 'fix' my opinion outside of a quote!

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

My opinions, observations etc do not need to be fixed by you!

I understand your opinion but 'fix' my opinion outside of a quote!

Welcome to an internet forum, where FYP is not a misquote.

py2006

rossc007 wrote: »

Welcome to an internet forum, where FYP is not a misquote.

What you have done is manipulate what I said and made it look like that is what I said by quoting me in your post! So anybody scanning through this thread will think that is what I actually said.

As I said, I have no issue with your opinion on this but don't insert it into a quote from me!

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

What you have done is manipulate what I said and made it look like that is what I said by quoting me in your post! So anybody scanning through this thread will think that is what I actually said.

As I said, I have no issue with your opinion on this but don't insert it into a quote from me!

omg, I clearly struck through what you said and added a FYP to indicate that I changed your post to reflect my opinion. Thats what FYP is for....

Anyone scanning through this thread please be aware that py2006 does indeed believe in the supernatural and his opinion should not be confused with my fixing of his posts

Gillington

I never beleived in anything supernatural until a couple of years ago.My mate was seeing this girl who told him she had a ghost living her room,which he or I didnt believe until he stayed over one night and said it was one of the freakiest things.Maybe I'm being naive but I believe him and her

Ghost Buster

Keno 92 wrote: »

Yes but only because I believe in The Ghostbusters.

You called?

Yep

*runs from lynch mob*

py2006

As a kid/teenager I was always fascinated by ghosts and UFO's. I don't quiet have the same interest these days but on occasion I will read the odd article etc.

One point I often make to people is that it is probably more outlandish to say we are the only life than it is to say there may be other life out there.

Especially when you consider the vastness of what is out there and we can only view the tiniest part of it.

Akrasia

Emiko wrote: »

There's any amount of unexplained incidents in the world.

Whether they're supernatural or not remains to be seen.

I'm agnostic on the issue.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Just because something is not easily explained does not mean that it is unexplainable, and the explanation for an unusual occorance that boils down to "it was magic" is not an explanation at all.

For something to have an effect, it must have a mechanism. There is no plausible mechanism through which ghosts or goblins or psychics or astrology etc can work by.

While the OP only mentioned ghosts and psychics and things, the category 'supernatural' should also include so called 'alternative' medicines. Things like Reiki, Homeopathy, reflexology, chiropractic voodoo etc.

All of the above have no credible mechanism through which they can have the physiological effects that are claimed by their advocates.


Homeopathy is just water people. Reiki is just wishful thinking and chiropractic is just dangerous

py2006

Akrasia wrote: »

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Just because something is not easily explained does not mean that it is unexplainable, and the explanation for an unusual occorance that boils down to "it was magic" is not an explanation at all.

For something to have an effect, it must have a mechanism. There is no plausible mechanism through which ghosts or goblins or psychics or astrology etc can work by.

Are you taking things purely from a scientific perspective?

Akrasia

py2006 wrote: »

Are you taking things purely from a scientific perspective?

As opposed to some other kind of perspective?

py2006

Akrasia wrote: »

As opposed to some other kind of perspective?

Sorry, I wasn't being smart!

It just that science doesn't and can't explain everything! Perhaps, one day it might and then again perhaps it wont!

I just think that because a scientist doesn't know an answer to something it doesn't mean it doesn't/can't/won't happen!

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

Are you taking things purely from a scientific perspective?

I'd hazard a guess that he is.

Does the possibility of alien life fall into the category of supernatural? Not in my opinion.

py2006

rossc007 wrote: »

I'd hazard a guess that he is.

Does the possibility of alien life fall into the category of supernatural? Not in my opinion.

Not sure how to categorise it! Supernatural or Paranormal!

Although, scientists are trying to find life out there or at least establish the possibility!

Davidius

I have never heard a good reason to believe in the supernatural.

I'd be surprised if alien life didn't exist but that doesn't really give credence to claims of visitation by extraterrestrials. Accounts of UFOs and abductions are too unreliable to be considered real evidence. Just because its plausible that aliens exist doesn't mean that they're the likely explanation for seemingly strange events.

rossc007

py2006 wrote: »

Not sure how to categorise it! Supernatural or Paranormal!

Although, scientists are trying to find life out there or at least establish the possibility!

I don't think its supernatural or paranormal, both of those fields operate outside of conventional science.

I think its more of a scientific probability, given what we know of the universe and the conditions required for life.

dlofnep

No.

Akrasia

py2006 wrote: »

Sorry, I wasn't being smart!

It just that science doesn't and can't explain everything! Perhaps, one day it might and then again perhaps it wont!

I just think that because a scientist doesn't know an answer to something it doesn't mean it doesn't/can't/won't happen!

Science can't explain everything, but we should still approach things from a scientific/skeptical perspective.

There are a number of steps that we should take to evaluate extraordinary claims

Michael Shermer of Skeptic magazine outlines the basics of the 'baloney detection kit' here http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

1. How reliable is the source of the claim?
2. Does this source often make similar claims?
3. Have the claims been verified by another source?
4. How does the claim fit with what we know about how the world works?
5. Has anyone gone out of the way to disprove the claim, or has only supportive evidence been sought?
6. Does the preponderance of evidence point to the claimant's conclusion or to a different one?
7. Is the claimant employing the accepted rules of reason and tools of research, or have these been abandoned in favor of others that lead to the desired conclusion?
8. Is the claimant providing an explanation for the observed phenomena or merely denying the existing explanation?
9. If the claimant proffers a new explanation, does it account for as many phenomena as the old explanation did?
10. Do the claimant's personal beliefs and biases drive the conclusions, or vice versa?

rossc007

dlofnep wrote: »

No.

Hmmm, if only there was some sort of poll

py2006

Akrasia wrote: »

Science can't explain everything, but we should still approach things from a scientific/skeptical perspective.

There are a number of steps that we should take to evaluate extraordinary claims

Michael Shermer of Skeptic magazine outlines the basics of the 'baloney detection kit' here http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

Interesting, although that list suggests a bias in itself. If we read between lines their aim seems it is trying to discredit the claimant.

We have to remember that at one stage people believed there wasn't any other life on earth. Until one day a boat was built and explorers went and discovered new land and people. When they returned with their stories there were believers and none believers.

I believe we will eventually get to that stage again but replace countries and people with planets and other life.

Not in our lifetime though!

Akrasia

py2006 wrote: »

Not sure how to categorise it! Supernatural or Paranormal!

Although, scientists are trying to find life out there or at least establish the possibility!

The existance of extraterrestrial life in other parts of the universe is not a paranormal question, it is a scientific one.

However, the approach to this question can be either scientific (SETI/NASA etc) or pseudo scientific (area 51 conspiracies, Abduction theories,spiritualist mumbo jumbo etc)

I believe that given the scale of the universe and the fact that we know intelligent life is possible given the right conditions (cause it developed here on earth) that on the statistical probability alone, there are probably other intelligent civilisations out there somewhere, possibly even a very great number of other civilisations. Whether we will ever contact them or not is a different question. Whether they are currently in contact with us? there is no convincing evidence of this.