Evelyn apologises for the rain in the east

Sponge Bob

When I think of all the crap forecasts we have listened to from Met Áth Cliath over the years and when they get in wrong in Dublin for a change ( they promised showers and it was actually rain today) they apologise for the crap forecasts...something they never do when they get it wrong along the west coast.

Give us our extra radars ( that work) in the west and we can do without yeer prattle lads. Lost a lot of respect for Evelyn Cusack today I did.

compsys

Sponge Bob wrote: »

When I think of all the crap forecasts we have listened to from Met Áth Cliath over the years and when they get in wrong in Dublin for a change ( they promised showers and it was actually rain today) they apologise for the crap forecasts...something they never do when they get it wrong along the west coast.

Give us our extra radars ( that work) in the west and we can do without yeer prattle lads. Lost a lot of respect for Evelyn Cusack today I did.

There's a very simple explanation for this. Around a third of the country's entire population lives in and around the Dublin area. What happens in Dublin matters. Simple. You may not like it, but that's just the cold hard truth.

As lovely and beautiful as the West is, no one really give a flying ***k what happens in a small town along the western seaboard. It's the same thing in the UK re London and Australia re Sydney and France re Paris. Capital cities matter because they're capital cities! The constant griping from people outside of Dublin about how much media coverage Dublin gets is just plain silly.

In fairness to Evelyn, fair play to her for putting her hands up and saying they got it wrong. As far as I'm aware most other forecasters, including MT, got it completely wrong too!

unitedrover

I presume they got a lot of complaints from farmers cutting hay or silage...

pauldry

compsys wrote: »

As lovely and beautiful as the West is, no one really give a flying ***k what happens in a small town along the western seaboard.

Which is why I set up a weather website with a West of Ireland slant and a lot of people seem to give a f**K

compsys

pauldry wrote: »

Which is why I set up a weather website with a West of Ireland slant and a lot of people seem to give a f**K

And I'm sure they do, but probably not near the same number as the hundreds of thousands of people in and around the Dublin region who are interested in the weather there!

All I'm saying is a capital city is always going to command more media attention and weather attention than any other part of the country.

Deep Easterly

compsys wrote: »

There's a very simple explana tion for this. Around a third of the country's entire population lives in and around the Dublin area. What happens in Dublin matters. Simple. You may not like it, but that's just the cold hard truth.

So basically you are saying that the two thirds of the population who actually live outside 'The Pale' should should not be at least equally considered?

Anyway, fair fÜcks to Evelyn for apologizing live on air. Personally I feel there was no need for an apology as Siobhan yesterday did forecast showers in the east, which did not die out as quickly as she forecast but what harm really as that is the nature of the weather in Ireland. It is untameable!

PS, and let's not forget that she still got the forecast right for the rest of the country (yes, I know, not as important as Dublin but still.. )

dsmythy

What caused the unexpected rain today anyway?

unitedrover

dsmythy wrote: »

What caused the unexpected rain today anyway?

Moisture in clouds i presume....having to rise above mountains

HellFireClub

Deep Easterly wrote: »

So basically you are saying that the two thirds of the population who actually live outside 'The Pale' should should not be at least equally considered?

Anyway, fair fÜcks to Evelyn for apologizing live on air. Personally I feel there was no need for an apology as Siobhan yesterday did forecast showers in the east, which did not die out as quickly as she forecast but what harm really as that is the nature of the weather in Ireland. It is untameable!

PS, and let's not forget that she still got the forecast right for the rest of the country (yes, I know, not as important as Dublin but still.. )

Would you ever give over with your hang up over Dublin people??? It's just annoying listening to your childish objections to any post that mentions Dublin at this stage.

She apologised for failing to forecast a whole day of heavy persistent rain in one particular part of the country, it could have been any county or part of the country ffs. "They", or those people outside of the east of the country were not considered or mentioned in this forecast in rerspect of her apology because they were not affected by the mistake, very simple.

Deep Easterly

HellFireClub wrote: »

Would you ever give over with your hang up over Dublin people??? It's just annoying listening to your childish objections to any post that mentions Dublin at this stage.

Could you provide some evidence of this as I too would love to see all my childish anti-Dublin rants that I post every time the word Dublin is posted on this forum!!

I am not being smart but I think you totally missed the point I was trying to make

pauldry

Dublin is just as important as the rest of Ireland.

But note the sentence "just as important"

All of Irelands weather is important. So if for example there is a local thunderstorm in Drumfin or Dublin Met Eireann record such things.

If there is a temperature of 29c on a rare day say in Shannon they dont just ignore it coz there are only a few thousand people living there.

The apology prob came because a large number of people probably complained to Met Eireann that the weather wasnt supposed to be wet all day whereas if it rained in Drumfin none or maybe one might.

irishdub14

I wish we all weren't so tribal. It's a shame.

DOCARCH

irishdub14 wrote: »

I wish we all weren't so tribal. It's a shame.

Don't you know it's all about parish! That phrase actually drives me mental.

Evelyn was on the radio this morning defending her apology as she said the mis-forecast rain affected 1 million people.

Aiel

This happened before,last December in fact.There was heavy snow showers one evening during rush hour commute and it wasnt forecast at all.Met Eireann did come on the radio and say that streamers of showers which were coming down the Irish Sea got deflected onto the Irish coast while passing The Isle of Man and gave far more snow to the East coast that evening and night then was forecast by anyone.So it took them by surprise too and yesterday seems to have been more or less the same thing although it was only rain yesterday obviously.

Joe Public

irishdub14 wrote: »

I wish we all weren't so tribal. It's a shame.

I blame the GAA parish rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_Athletic_Association#The_parish_rule

Tazz T

did she actually revise the weekend's forecast to 'It'll be dry unless it rains.'

Babooshka

In fairness here, even MT didn't predict yesterday's full on rainy weather in the east in his forecast. (no disrespect I am a big fan, MT ) so why bash Met Eireann up about it ? Our weather is hard to predict and not very nice and we don't get good summers, end of!

Iancar29

Babooshka wrote: »

In fairness here, even MT didn't predict yesterday's full on rainy weather in the east in his forecast. (no disrespect I am a big fan, MT ) so why bash Met Eireann up about it ? Our weather is hard to predict and not very nice and we don't get good summers, end of!

I agree... its not like we ring up and praise them on every time they get a forecast correct...

Babooshka

Iancar29 wrote: »

I agree... its not like we ring up and praise them on every time they get a forecast correct...

Maybe we should! One of the nicest things I heard of someone do during the snow spell last winter was my brother, he emailed Dublin bus and told them how great a job he thought they were doing..I thought that was so cool and we need more attitude like that in total

wile1000

compsys wrote: »

It's the same thing in the UK re London and Australia re Sydney and France re Paris. Capital cities matter because they're capital cities!

The capital of Oz is *cough* Canberra. And most Australians (as I am one) don't care what happens there weather wise anyway. Always just cold at this time of year.

nacho libre

Iancar29 wrote: »

I agree... its not like we ring up and praise them on every time they get a forecast correct...

very true Iancar29. Quick to complain, not so quick to praise.

John_Rambo

Have I got this right?






A weather person apologises on the TV to the East coast about an incorrect weather forecast and someone starts a thread on boards.ie complaining that they never got an apology for the time they got bad weather forecast?

Tazio

unitedrover wrote: »

I presume they got a lot of complaints from farmers cutting hay or silage...

Naw, we take those meteorologists with their complex mathematical historical models and high tech satellite / radar stuff with a pinch of salt..

We plan the cutting based on gut feeling and instinct; so far so good too.

snow ghost

compsys wrote: »

As lovely and beautiful as the West is, no one really give a flying ***k what happens in a small town along the western seaboard. It's the same thing in the UK re London and Australia re Sydney and France re Paris. Capital cities matter because they're capital cities!

If anything Met Eireann predicting accurate weather outside the Pale is more important due to the importance of agriculture to the Irish economy. Except for a snow storm that may bring the Pale to a standstill and affect the economy the rest of the country is of much more significance in terms of population, agriculture and tourism.

Last time I looked - this was meant to be a Republic and not dominated by ego-centric gombeens stuffed into an ex-slum and pitiful excuse for a capital city.

The sooner you people realise that the West is the real Capital of Ireland and that that ex-scandanavian dive and centre of British colonialism you call a city is nothing more than a carbuncle, the sooner we Ireland can once again stand proud among the nations of the World and we might get some accurate forecasts for the West coast.

John_Rambo

That ex-scandanavian dive and centre of British colonialism you call a city pays for the farming subsidies.

Calm down, accept your dole gratefully.

Min

It was a nice day here, glad Met Eireann got it right for us, there was no need to apologise, sure doesn't Dublin need the rain.

John.Icy

Same here Min, got it bang on for this part of the "East"...

And SnowGhost...the west the real capital of Ireland because of agricultural prowess....really?? May we all remind ourselves what part of Ireland has the worst soil conditions for farming....;)

HellFireClub

Deep Easterly wrote: »

HellFireClub wrote: »

Would you ever give over with your hang up over Dublin people??? It's just annoying listening to your childish objections to any post that mentions Dublin at this stage.

Could you provide some evidence of this as I too would love to see all my childish anti-Dublin rants that I post every time the word Dublin is posted on this forum!!

I am not being smart but I think you totally missed the point I was trying to make

You did it before on here recently enough when you starting whinging and moaning on thread about me starting a new thread on a thunderstorm that had just broken over Dublin, instead of posting on a thread that already existed for thunderstorm activity, claiming that because I was posting from Dublin that I expected my have my very own thread on a subject particular to Dublin, when I had actually thought that the existing thread on thunderstorm activity was more a discussion on the theory or science of thunderstorms as opposed to an actual event based thread on thunderstorms as they occur in Ireland.

Seriously man, you really need to grow up and stop annoying people on here with your anti-Dublin attitude problem.

noworries

snow ghost wrote: »

If anything Met Eireann predicting accurate weather outside the Pale is more important due to the importance of agriculture to the Irish economy. .........

Agriculture makes up less than 4%** of GDP, so Met Eireann gives it the importance it deserves. In fact, with the weekly Farming forecast it is probably giving too much time to the farming community based on "he importance of agriculture to the Irish economy."

G'wan back to yar sillage muck boy

** based on Teagasc figures of GVA in Primary Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry at Factor Cost of 3.5 billion versus a gdp of 149 billion

freckles1234

We are to get good sunny weather in August, it will cheer every one up:cool:

garyha

This attitude that RTE/Met only care and report about Dublin and the way some people react to others opening threads that mention Dublin is one of the reasons I don't come here much anymore. I never posted much but lurk a lot, especially in winter.

I'm not going to name names but the way some people reacted last year during the cold spell was ridiculous. As if RTE shouldn't even cover Dublin if they don't give an equal report about what's happening everywhere.

Last year Dublin was hammered by unexpected snow in those streamers in the run up to Christmas which left a lot of people stranded in airports and effectively shut down the city. I fail to see how this isn't newsworthy. Obviously Dublin and surrounding areas get more coverage considering the population density of the area.

Last year, RTE were covering other areas of the country, but honestly Dublin was most certainly the worst affected last year in terms of number of people.

To me it's like me opening a thread during the Cork floods a couple of years ago saying, "hold on, it rained in dublin today too, cop on MET/RTE"

It's childish.

Also if you don't like someone opening a thread about Dublin don't read it. This is a public message forum, once someone isn't posting insulting comments it's up to the community to bother reading or commenting on it, that's what collaborative/social media is all about, let the audience self moderate. Calling for threads to be locked etc is just really petty.

End ranty.

irishdub14

This thread should have been locked a long time ago....!

Lumi

HellFireClub wrote: »

You did it before on here recently enough when you starting whinging and moaning on thread about me starting a new thread on a thunderstorm that had just broken over Dublin, instead of posting on a thread that already existed for thunderstorm activity, claiming that because I was posting from Dublin that I expected my have my very own thread on a subject particular to Dublin, when I had actually thought that the existing thread on thunderstorm activity was more a discussion on the theory or science of thunderstorms as opposed to an actual event based thread on thunderstorms as they occur in Ireland.

Seriously man, you really need to grow up and stop annoying people on here with your anti-Dublin attitude problem.

HellFireClub - you really need to learn to read!!!

The post to which you objected so much was made by BEASTERLY and not Deep Easterly!


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72695805&postcount=41

In fact, Deep Easterly did not even contribute to that particular thread and has NEVER to the best of my knowledge expressed an anti-Dublin attitude during his long association with this forum

Your ill-informed and misplaced tirade against someone who spends a great deal of time compiling the monthly IMT, graphs not to mention some outstanding animations is truly shameful.....

snow ghost

John_Rambo wrote: »

That ex-scandanavian dive and centre of British colonialism you call a city pays for the farming subsidies.

Calm down, accept your dole gratefully.

I think you'll find that the IMF, ECB and loans are paying for any farming subsidies - incase you missed recent news events the country is essentially banckrupt and receiving bailout 'dole' from abroad. It may also surprise you that farming isn't everything that happens outside the Pale - the bulk of the tourism happens here when all of the regions are taken together.

I was being deliberatly OTT with tongue in cheek to get a rise - but on a serious note the basis of my points were valid and whilst Met Eireann often do a very good job they could also focus on the majority of the population that reside outside the Pale and don't care what happens in the West Brit enclave.

HellFireClub

Fionagus wrote: »

HellFireClub wrote: »

You did it before on here recently enough when you starting whinging and moaning on thread about me starting a new thread on a thunderstorm that had just broken over Dublin, instead of posting on a thread that already existed for thunderstorm activity, claiming that because I was posting from Dublin that I expected my have my very own thread on a subject particular to Dublin, when I had actually thought that the existing thread on thunderstorm activity was more a discussion on the theory or science of thunderstorms as opposed to an actual event based thread on thunderstorms as they occur in Ireland.

Seriously man, you really need to grow up and stop annoying people on here with your anti-Dublin attitude problem.

HellFireClub - you really need to learn to read!!!

The post to which you objected so much was made by BEASTERLY and not Deep Easterly!


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72695805&postcount=41

In fact Deep Easterly did not even contribute to that particular thread thread and has NEVER to the best of my knowledge expressed an anti-Dublin attitude during his long association with this forum

Your ill-informed and misplaced tirade against someone who spends a great deal of time compiling the monthly IMT, graphs not to mention some outstanding animations is truly shameful.....

Right so, I stand corrected insofar as I have clearly confused two posters with very similar usernames.

I still maintain though that both posters have been cribbing and moaning about Dublin getting mentioned too much and Dublin posters being pre-occupied with their own importance on this forum.

I sat through too much of it last winter and I think it's LONG since past time that this childish behaviour was moderated out of this forum. This is the only forum on this site where this kind of crap is tolerated.

Nabber

snow ghost wrote: »

If anything Met Eireann predicting accurate weather outside the Pale is more important due to the importance of agriculture to the Irish economy. Except for a snow storm that may bring the Pale to a standstill and affect the economy the rest of the country is of much more significance in terms of population, agriculture and tourism.

Last time I looked - this was meant to be a Republic and not dominated by ego-centric gombeens stuffed into an ex-slum and pitiful excuse for a capital city.

The sooner you people realise that the West is the real Capital of Ireland and that that ex-scandanavian dive and centre of British colonialism you call a city is nothing more than a carbuncle, the sooner we Ireland can once again stand proud among the nations of the World and we might get some accurate forecasts for the West coast.

That's a bit harsh on Dublin. Isn't Kilkenny the old capital capital and Cork the Rebel Capital. Never heard of the West being a capital. It would be a large geographical capital too for such a small country.

Apology was not needed. Unless it caused a serious impact which it didn't. For me anyways.

This silly old thing between Dublin Vs The Rest is stupid. North Vs South.
Ypu have to credit the Brittish, when they leave you with independence, they leave you a shattered and divided nation.

This thread is just another example of it. Perhaps it's just human nature anyways.

If Sligo, Limerick, Cork, Galway was the capital with 1/4 of the population, the thread would be the same only with a few name changes.

Enjoy your rant guys.

John_Rambo

snow ghost wrote: »

I think you'll find...

that most tax money comes from Dublin.

snow ghost wrote: »

I was being deliberatly OTT with tongue in cheek to get a rise

That's called trollling.

snow ghost wrote: »

Met Eireann often do a very good job they could also focus on the majority of the population that reside outside the Pale and don't care what happens in the West Brit enclave.

They do, they did in the forecast we are talking about now, the whole country was covered. You can throw out your petty insults about Dublin and Dubliners, we are indeed a mix of Norse, Vikings, Saxons, Welsh, Pols etc.. a right pack of mongrols... But we are cool with it. You can call us Brits, what is your problem with Brits anyway?? You can call it a ex Scandanavian dive, but it's not, it is one of Irelands tourist hot spots, it's a great city. I wouldn't go slating your home town anonymously, it's rude and shows your ignorance of you own country, plus, I happen to know your corner of the world very well, and It's stunning, but... even if I didn't like it I simply wouldn't lower myself to your keyboard warrior standards. That's the difference between you and me. I'm a proud Irish man, even if I have some mixed blue blood running through my body.

Just because you don't know the city doesn't mean it's bad. Knowledge is power, get out there and learn.

doubleglaze

HellFireClub wrote: »

Seriously man, you really need to grow up and stop annoying people on here with your anti-Dublin attitude problem.

It p!sses me off that Dublin gets all the sunshine and the West gets all the rain. I'm fed up with the injustice of it all. I mean, we pay our taxes same as the rest of ye, so we should be entitled to as much of the sun as ye.

Next time there's a draught up in Dublin, ye'll not get any of our water when yer reservoirs dry up! Ye can go starve for all I care!:mad:

Sponge Bob

doubleglaze wrote: »

Next time there's a draught up in Dublin, ye'll not get any of our water

That'd be a drought now would it? :cool: Sure a whole day of rain in a officially drought stricken Dublin strikes me as pure bonusage so it does.

But what pisses me off is the constant Dublin centric weather forecasts , eg saying on the news at 9 that the next morning would be wet ....when what is meant that the west is dry ( it having passed through overnight) while dear old drought stricken Dublin is wet.

They should decentralise the Met office out of there to Athlone...might cop them on.

snow ghost

John Rambo,

You dubs are so touchy - can't take a bit of slagging? :P If you look at the post that I originally responded to it said that no one gave a ****e about the West so mine was an apt retort.

That aside it is perfectly acceptable to be 'anti-Dublin' - there is no law against it, it isn't unlawful discrimination and it is perfectly understandable tbh if you're representative of the inhabitants. :pac::pac::pac:

Anyone else notice that Evelyn kept mentioning the West all the time on this evening's weather? Thanks for that Evelyn - and good to see you're not one of those whinging fairies from the Pale who cry at a few raindrops they got last night.

John_Rambo

snow ghost wrote: »

You dubs are so touchy

From the person who is complaining about not getting an apology for the weather? I already told you your childish name calling doesn't bother me.

snow ghost wrote: »

whinging fairies from the Pale

Fairies?

snow ghost wrote: »

That aside it is perfectly acceptable to be 'anti-Dublin' - there is no law against it.

Sure, of course, I just don't know why you would use a weather forum to vent your anti views. You should get a blog.

nacho libre

A very pleasant July evening here, clear blue skies and warm sunshine!

John_Rambo

Stunning in the capital here. Loads of greenflies and the swifts are feasting and screeching!

Sponge Bob

Tropical Storm Cindy coming to Ireland on Monday....says Evelyn tonight.

And noooOOOOOO heatwave, no!

Lumi

A summery, sunny eve to be savored here in Galway

Sponge Bob

Fionagus wrote: »

A summery, sunny eve to be savored here in Galway

Could be raining by 11pm

http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

Lumi

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Could be raining by 11pm

http://www.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

Perhaps but by then I will have moved inside from my present, pleasant drinking spot and will be unlikely to care

Pangea

What I noticed from this thread
3 Different debates

1: People outside Dublin are complaining that Dublin gets more attention in weather forecasts than areas outside of Dublin.
2. People in Dublin saying that Dublin gets more attention and no where else matters outside of Dublin. (Which effectively justifies numbers 1 arguments but argues that Met Eireann are right in doing so)
3.People in Dublin complaining about the people in number 1 but saying that areas outside of Dublin are equally focused on in weather forecasts but they are sick of hearing anti Dublin comments.

With all due respect to number 3, comments like number 2 only justify peoples concerns about Dublin being primarily focused on in forecasts. Personally I live in Donegal and as number 2 said, we don't care about the weather here, when we greet each other everyday all we say is "I wonder what the weather is like in Dublin today" because 1/3 of the population is living there. :pac:

P.S (The above is not an anti-dublin comment but just sarcasm aimed at number 2s mentality) which is effectively what Deep Easterly was trying to get across when he said

Deep Easterly wrote: »

(yes, I know, not as important as Dublin but still.. )

Now sarcasm aside, sure Dublin probably does get more attention in forecasts and some times it is warranted when it effects a lot of people like the closure of Dublin airport in the snow which effected a lot of people from all parts of Ireland.

I think that what people outside of Dublin are complaining about here is a lack of attention when they get their own weather events. e.g. There has been plenty of times when there has been snow in the North West and it wasn't noticed in the news but the minute it reaches the east coast it was all over the news.

In fairness to RTE though in the last cold spell they did have regional correspondents with detailed news reports so I don't think there was too much neglect to other regions in the past winter, but the winter before in 2009 the neglect was evident when RTE didn't report the wintry weather till it hit Dublin (other regions had been badly hit by the wintry weather for a good period before Dublin and it is important to understand that it just wasn't mentioned on the news).

Personally I don't mind Dublin being focused on, but I don't think other parts of the country should be neglected either when they are experiencing their own difficult conditions.

Now back to the topic of Evelyns recent apology, I think if Evelyn started apologising for mistakes in the west coast she would be apologising a lot. Some days there are floods here and the weather forecast might of said dry, we are well used to it, the Atlantic is unpredictable. I think we should be glad that we are not the focus of attention sometimes and embrace our unpredictable weather :pac:

Peace and Love

Lumi

Well said Pangea!

Sponge Bob

Pangea wrote: »

Now back to the topic of Evelyns recent apology, I think if Evelyn started apologising for mistakes in the west coast she would be apologising a lot.

But she doesn't. And her crappy radar often shows nothing...often when it is actually raining outside.

So if she would kindly deploy a pair of radars in Dooncarton and Mt Gabriel that can SEE THE ATLANTIC then we can get on with our lives without having to suffer the vagaries of Dublin centric weather foreacsts that are frequently meaningless and inaccurate.

Danno

Geez lads, pipe down a bit, she apologised for forecasting showers when a shower train showed up. Damned if she does, damned if she dosen't. Grow up lads.