British 'Taliban fighters' arrested in Afghanistan

whydave

British 'Taliban fighters' arrested in Afghanistan,their day just went from bad to F*cker ! hope they enjoy their stay ! link here

r3nu4l

No reall surprise there. In his book 'The Circuit', Bob Shepherd (a man linked to Bravo Two Zero) describes meeting a Brummie fighting for the TAliban.

discus

Hahahaha! I hope enjoys his stay at the ANA's courtesy and expense

LondonIrish90

There have also been reports of soldiers killing taliban fighters in the past, and when inspecting their bodies finding tattoos of English football clubs, often from cities with large muslim populations. Bradford, Villa etc.

It would be interesting to know how these two were actually captured, or whether they just gave themselves up. Either way, I hope they enjoy prison food - Afghan style.

Also, I don't know if it would be legally possible but his citizenship should be revoked upon his release and he should never be allowed back into Europe. I'm sure the court of human rights would kick up a massive fuss however.

RMD

It's not surprising, not the first time it's happened. In many of the Islamic ghettoes in large British cities there's a small number of extremists doing the rounds happy to travel to Afghanistan / Pakistan to fight for the Taliban or other insurgent groups. Or in the case of the 7/7 bombings to be trained there and return to Britain to perform an attack.

Morlar

I really think they should have their citizenship revoked in those cases. Or permanently barred entry on the grounds of danger to the public . . something like that.

arybvtcw0eolkf

RMD wrote: »

It's not surprising, not the first time it's happened. In many of the Islamic ghettoes in large British cities there's a small number of extremists doing the rounds happy to travel to Afghanistan / Pakistan to fight for the Taliban or other insurgent groups. Or in the case of the 7/7 bombings to be trained there and return to Britain to perform an attack.

In 2003 British Muslims also carried out a suicide attack on 'Mikes Place' Irish bar in Tel Aviv, Israel murdering three and injuring over 50.

Fratton Fred

I wonder how many British Muslims rushed to Srebrenica to protect their "Brothers" there?

krissovo

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I wonder how many British Muslims rushed to Srebrenica to protect their "Brothers" there?

You would be surprised the amount of people who signed up to the various factions in the Balkans but there were certainly British Muslims as well as Saudis and Pakistanis in the ARBiH. A real threat to the piece accord was the Mujahideen who rallied during the ceasefires but were kept quiet with a number of NATO operations against them and their leadership.

Mahatma coat

Shock Horror, People Oppose Illegal war of Occupation and choose to take up arms against their home Nations agressors.

ya know some people feel that the Invading British and American soldiers deserve the same Disdain

booom

'Londonistan' by Melanie Philips explains this phenomenon in detail- well worth the read.

harmoniums

Jaxen Echoing Resistor wrote: »

In 2003 British Muslims also carried out a suicide attack on 'Mikes Place' Irish bar in Tel Aviv, Israel murdering three and injuring over 50.

Hey Jaxen Echoing Resistor, is that a Hezbollah Teeshirt in your avatar?
Where do you come across such a thing?
I'll be doing a gunshow here next month and being a douchey hipster, it would make the perfect ironic teeshirt to pair with my sisters skinny jeans to annoy the corn based, diabeeeeeetus havin' (type II of course) mouth breathers.

Does it come in size small with a deep vee?

arybvtcw0eolkf

harmoniums wrote: »

Hey Makikomi, is that a Hezbollah Teeshirt in your avatar?
Where do you come across such a thing?

Lebanon.

LondonIrish90

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, People Oppose Illegal war of Occupation and choose to take up arms against their home Nations agressors.

ya know some people feel that the Invading British and American soldiers deserve the same Disdain

It's not illegal. Read a book.

I hope these two are made to suffer in a grotty afghan prison shall serve them right for taking up arms against their "home nation".

LondonIrish90

Jaxen Echoing Resistor wrote: »

Lebanon.

Interesting that you would have no problem walking around in a Hezbollah shirt. To each their own, and all that.

arybvtcw0eolkf

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Interesting that you would have no problem walking around in a Hezbollah shirt. To each their own, and all that.

At various times you'll see in my avatar an IDF T-shirt, something resembling a swastika, an Hezbollah T-shirt and sometimes even a pink thong bikini so don't go losing too much sleep over it.

'Tis all for a bit of craic and nothing else.

Manic Moran

In fairness, even if someone is offended by your T-shirts, it would take some balls for them to challenge you on it...

NTM

arybvtcw0eolkf

Manic Moran wrote: »

In fairness, even if someone is offended by your T-shirts, it would take some balls for them to challenge you on it...

NTM

Anyone who know's me wouldn't challenge me, it would be like kicking a puppy :P

I actually made up the 'I graduated SUICIDE BOMBER school' poster thingy to have the craic with some Israeli buddies on Facebook, then thought it would look cool over on boards.ie too.

I wouldn't pay any heed to what I'd throw up here tbh.

BlaasForRafa

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Shock Horror, People Oppose Illegal war of Occupation and choose to take up arms against their home Nations agressors.

ya know some people feel that the Invading British and American soldiers deserve the same Disdain

It isn't an invading illegal war of occupation so get your facts right.

And hey if you want to voice support for people who murder gays and oppose education for females, thats up to you but it also says a lot about you.

A.Tomas

How do ye feel about this t-shirt?:D Just curious.

http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-pulls-thatchers-grave-t-shirt-from-online-store-181921-Jul2011/

Mahatma coat

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

It's not illegal. Read a book.

I hope these two are made to suffer in a grotty afghan prison shall serve them right for taking up arms against their "home nation".

I have read a fair few books in me time, I'm fairly sure there are specific laws Against Wars of Agression, theres a few UN Resolutions and IIRC there was something about it in the Nuremberg trials.

also
I hope that Many Many Many more Young British and American soldiers die in horific agony in the dust of Afghanistan and Iraq whilst perpetuating the endless cycle of violence nescessary to maintain the Military Industrial complex eisenhower warned the World about see I put in a smiley face just like you

Mahatma coat

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

It isn't an invading illegal war of occupation so get your facts right.

so what is it then, a Diplomatic mission??

And hey if you want to voice support for people who murder gays and oppose education for females, thats up to you but it also says a lot about you.

I havent voiced Support for anyone, I'm just curious as to why its 'heroic' to go to afghanistan and Shoot/Bomb lots of people if you wear a uniform but your the lowest of the low if you decide to go there and help those people DEFEND their country from Foreign agressors

arybvtcw0eolkf

A.Tomas wrote: »

How do ye feel about this t-shirt?:D Just curious.

http://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-pulls-thatchers-grave-t-shirt-from-online-store-181921-Jul2011/

Get with it gurl!.

A.Tomas

Mahatma coat wrote: »

so what is it then, a Diplomatic mission??

I havent voiced Support for anyone, I'm just curious as to why its 'heroic' to go to afghanistan and Shoot/Bomb lots of people if you wear a uniform but your the lowest of the low if you decide to go there and help those people DEFEND their country from Foreign agressors

+1


Though, they ban you from forums for bringing this up!

Manic Moran

Right.. Well.

I hope these two are made to suffer in a grotty afghan prison shall serve them right for taking up arms against their "home nation".

As a matter of policy, we do not allow approval of acts which are contrary to the laws of war, to include conditions for prisoners. Officlal warning granted.

also
I hope that Many Many Many more Young British and American soldiers die in horific agony in the dust of Afghanistan and Iraq whilst perpetuating the endless cycle of violence nescessary to maintain the Military Industrial complex eisenhower warned the World about see I put in a smiley face just like you

And that one earns two weeks off for general asshattery, to include attempt at personal moderation of postings.

Though, they ban you from forums for bringing this up!

Not if it's done in the correct manner. Mahatma's position has been stated before, without causing a ban.

NTM

RMD

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I havent voiced Support for anyone, I'm just curious as to why its 'heroic' to go to afghanistan and Shoot/Bomb lots of people if you wear a uniform but your the lowest of the low if you decide to go there and help those people DEFEND their country from Foreign agressors

These people "defending" their country want to implement an extremely strict interpretation of Sharia Law banning most things you'd consider common and basic in your life, they have no regard for civil rights most notably women and have no problem butchering minority groups they don't view as pure such as homosexuals.

They have little support other than the border tribal areas such as Helmand and Kunar province. The majority of the country is pro-democracy after they've seen what the Taliban actually stands for.

alanmcqueen

On a lighter note, for anyone interested in learning more about the Taliban, this is essential reading:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Taliban-James-Fergusson/dp/0552162833/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1311365912&sr=8-2

Or same book with slightly different name to appeal to different audience here:

http://www.amazon.com/Taliban-Enemy-James-Fergusson/dp/0306820331/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1311366103&sr=1-2

flash1080

RMD wrote: »

These people "defending" their country want to implement an extremely strict interpretation of Sharia Law banning most things you'd consider common and basic in your life, they have no regard for civil rights most notably women and have no problem butchering minority groups they don't view as pure such as homosexuals.

They have little support other than the border tribal areas such as Helmand and Kunar province. The majority of the country is pro-democracy after they've seen what the Taliban actually stands for.

I'd imagine that most people there want peace and want foreign forces to leave their land. The Taliban kept law and order in place there, and the drugs trade only blossomed after the invasion of foreigners. The UK haven't exactly got a clean past when it comes to civil rights.

It wasn't me!

flash1080 wrote: »

The Taliban kept law and order in place there

Which is of course wonderful when they also decided the laws to be implemented, and executed teachers who educated young women and the like.

whydave

Sorry Lads ,
Wanted this about non-Afghan fighters captured in action , Etc!

David
(cool t-shirts )

MickJB1989

The difficulty I have in condemning people for acting on their beliefs, is that they may well feel a desire to condemn me for acting upon mine. I find sharia law to be quite distasteful, and frankly barbaric in places, but equally, it's practioners would find common law practiced in the UK, US and Ireland, or civil law practiced in Europe to be secular and possibly blasphemous.

The difficulty is reconciling two polar positions, it can't be done. But just as I don't view the average wermacht solider as a "bad guy" (and remember, many people of german descent returned to fight for the fatherland from various countries) I can't view the average Taliban fighter as "evil". They are fighting for their beliefs, we are fighting for ours, as long as neither side breaks jus as bellum or jus in bello, then neither side can be criticised. War is simply the final means to resolve politcal disputes, to paraphrase Clausewitz.

N.B. If Mahatma comes back, he should remember that IRAQ was illegal, not Afghanistan