So nobody here cares about the drought in Somalia?

Turkana

There are big appeals in the media yet not a peep here. Have ye no heart? It has now been upgraded to a famine.

By the way I won't be giving a cent.

FatherLen

no, no one cares. :rolleyes:











of course we care.

Joey the lips

My life is not based purely around boards. Sorry boards. I do care. I have given money simply because if we are in this boat i hope someone in far off lands care enough to give me a meal.

oh and before we go down the morals of giving to charity. I am giving on humanity grounds.

frag420

Look.......................a Squirrel

But in all seriousness maybe they should close all doors and windows.........................................oh drought you say??

stupidusername

speak for yourself father, I don't.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I'm dreading the charity record released in time for Christmas

Absurdum

Tesco are doing 2 for 1 on Ballgowan 6x500ml bottles


/drought

smash

Charity starts at home...

JohnMarston

If i send aid how much of it would reach the Somalians?

Absurdum

JohnMarston wrote: »

If i send aid how much of it would reach the Somalians?

they have enough aids already :rolleyes:

thebigbiffo

Developed countries governments didn't give enough of a flying f'uck to intervene or stop supplying weapons in the war that caused the famine - now regular joe soap is supposed to fund the clean up of the mess made by global policy. Pfffffft.

orourkeda

I dont give a hairy ass f*CK

Captain Chaos

We're all saving for our water charges next year.

meditraitor

tut tut

pickarooney

Joey the lips wrote: »

My life is not based purely around boards. Sorry boards. I do care. I have given money simply because if we are in this boat i hope someone in far off lands care enough to give me a meal.

I would probably steer clear of Somalia if I were in a boat.

Dwaegon

Joey the lips wrote: »

My life is not based purely around boards. Sorry boards. I do care. I have given money simply because if we are in this boat i hope someone in far off lands care enough to give me a meal.

oh and before we go down the morals of giving to charity. I am giving on humanity grounds.

You are so much better than everyone else, and I'm glad you told us why.

meditraitor

tut tut

orourkeda

Captain Chaos wrote: »

We're all saving for our water charges next year.

At least we dont have to worry about drought

Show Time

Not really no as any money that ends up out there will be used to support some warlords next campaign.

Fozzydog3

I'm eighteen and it's the summer , after putting up with Japan , Australia , (Insert northern African country here) for the past year I've now taken a vow of contempt .:cool:

jimthemental

I read Black Hawk Down lately and from what is said in that book the place is going backwards due to blind aggression towards everyone. You'd be just another casualty if you try to bring aid there. I'd rather set up a christian missionary in Baghdad.

mikedragon32

With Bono on holidays while Somalian kids starve, there's noone to be our social conscience.

:rolleyes:

AH isn't the measure of how much people care or care less. It certainly isn't the place for a serious discussion of the topic.

Show Time

mikedragon32 wrote: »

With Bono on holidays while Somalian kids starve, there's noone to be our social conscience.

:rolleyes:

AH isn't the measure of how much people care or care less. It certainly isn't the place for a serious discussion of the topic.

Where would be so?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Show Time wrote: »

Where would be so?

Relevant forum.

Plazaman

The NCA have stated that food prices are on the rise AGAIN !!! LINKAGE

So sorry Africa, I already scrimping my pennies together to avoid a famine in Casa Del Plazaman.

Everyone for themselves.....

Ask Geldof, he might do another concert.

temply

That concern ad - and the woman warbling

I listen to it now and it sounds like she is singing "BITE.... me"

Logical Fallacy

JohnMarston wrote: »

If i send aid how much of it would reach the Somalians?

**** all, as is the standard a degree will be leached off by the charity itself and huge amounts of the actually aid itself will be stop and "commandeered" by corrupt governments and militia.

Personally for foreign aid i only give to Doctors Without Borders...because those folk have some ****ing stones of steel.

mike65

Its hard to really care that much, the Horn of Africa has never been anything other than marginal as a place to live, add in its near permanent political/cultural chaos and one can only imagine any resources thrown at the crisis will be wasted as the underlying problems will continue to exist.

The lowlands of the Horn are generally arid in spite of their proximity to the equator. This is because the winds of the tropical monsoons that give seasonal rains to the Sahel and the Sudan blow from the west. Consequently, they lose their moisture upon reaching Djibouti and Somalia, with the result that most of the Horn receives little rainfall during the monsoon season. On the windward side in the west and center of Ethiopia and the extreme south of Eritrea, monsoonal rainfall is heavy.

In the mountains of Ethiopia, many areas receive over 2,000 mm (80 in) per year, and even Asmara receives an average of 570 mm (23 in). This rainfall is the sole source of water for many areas outside Ethiopia, most famously Egypt, which — in terms of rainfall — is the driest nation on Earth.

In the winter, the northeasterly trade winds do not provide any moisture except in mountainous areas of northern Somalia, where rainfall in late autumn can produce annual totals as high as 500 mm (20 in). On the eastern coast, a strong upwelling and the fact that the winds blow parallel to the coast means annual rainfall can be as low as 50 mm (2 in).

Temperatures on the Red Sea coast are some of the hottest in the world, typically around 41°C (106°F) in July and 32°C (90°F) in January, though east coast temperatures are somewhat cooler because of the upwelling of the current. As elevation increases, temperatures decrease so that at Asmara, maximum temperatures are around 20°C (68°F), though frosts are frequent on cloudless nights. On the highest peaks of the Simien Mountains however, temperatures rarely reach 14°C (57°F) and can be as low as –10°C (14°F) on cloudless nights.

TheIrishGrover

I've recently been made unemployed so my income, obviously, has been seriously limited so I won't be giving money to Somalia or any other African aid charity group. I think most people here and around the world are suffering from Africa fatigue. I just makes me so angry when you see millions being donated all the while the country in trouble is spending millions on weapons and waring with their neighbours/themselves. I know it comes across as heartless : "the civilians are the ones suffering; their countries have been raped for generations by colonial powers; there are serious tribal complexities/dificulties" etc etc. I know these things but it's hard to give the money when six months/a year later you see a heavily armed military murdering and pillaging their neighbours or an opposing tribe. Tribe! Tribal warfare in the 21st century! And I'm waiting to see how many posts it takes before I'm called a rasist. If that's the opinion, I don't care. I know my own opinions and will not be beaten with the all-too-easily-used "R" card

I'm old enough to remember Band Aid and Live Aid. Apparently about $300 million was donated around the world. The same amount that Ethiopia was spending on weapons.

Surely SURELY it's time for these nations to have SOME accountability. Of course, in times of crisis help is needed but surely their governments should be the first line of aid.

pickarooney

Giving money to basically fight a losing battle against nature just seems counter-productive. The best case scenario unfortunately is that some people get saved, the weather picks up for a few years and the birth rate explodes, leading to an even worse famine/drought next time around

jimthemental

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

**** all, as is the standard a degree will be leached off by the charity itself and huge amounts of the actually aid itself will be stop and "commandeered" by corrupt governments and militia.

Personally for foreign aid i only give to Doctors Without Borders...because those folk have some ****ing stones of steel.

Medecins Sans Frontiers, I really do respect those people.

inforfun

A similar post on a Dutch blog a few days ago had someone posted this:

Salaries of a few do-gooders in Holland.

*Oxfam Novib - Farah Karimi : EUR 100.972,-
*Cordaid - René Grotenhuis : EUR 119.387,-
*Red Cross - Cees Breederveld : EUR 199.000,-
*Terre des Hommes - Ron van Huizen : EUR 120.293,–

goose2005

inforfun wrote: »

A similar post on a Dutch blog a few days ago had someone posted this:

Salaries of a few do-gooders in Holland.

*Oxfam Novib - Farah Karimi : EUR 100.972,-
*Cordaid - René Grotenhuis : EUR 119.387,-
*Red Cross - Cees Breederveld : EUR 199.000,-
*Terre des Hommes - Ron van Huizen : EUR 120.293,–

Chickenfeed. Rehab's Angela Kerins pulls in 400,000.

Son Of A Vidic

Turkana wrote: »

There are big appeals in the media yet not a peep here. Have ye no heart? It has now been upgraded to a famine.

By the way I won't be giving a cent.

You have just made your argument irrelevant.

Son Of A Vidic

inforfun wrote: »

A similar post on a Dutch blog a few days ago had someone posted this:

Salaries of a few do-gooders in Holland.

*Oxfam Novib - Farah Karimi : EUR 100.972,-
*Cordaid - René Grotenhuis : EUR 119.387,-
*Red Cross - Cees Breederveld : EUR 199.000,-
*Terre des Hommes - Ron van Huizen : EUR 120.293,–

This comes as no surprise, some do indeed make a nice living from misery.

123balltv

I wish they could only show them starving ads in rich peoples houses lotto winners/celebrities etc

in my house where already struggling them ads dont help
they make us feel even more depressed

wild_cat

To quote my brother...


"If your Father had silage down in Somalia they'd have no drought".


I presume the uber boggers and farmers will get that....

Shreddingblood

T.I.A. Mothertrucker!

mrmeindl

I dont give a flying **** about somalia..think people are getting fed up with all the charities constantly begging for money when most of the money raised is spent on administration.

pragmatic1

I'll send some cash but I know it'll probably do no good.

biko

I'll give to Somalia when they release the Danish family held hostage.
I know it's not the pirates suffering, it's the general population, but I just can't bring myself to give while things like these are happening.

http://100gf.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/pirates-holding-danish-yacht-owner-jan-quist-johansen-and-family-demand-bigger-ransom/

Somali pirates holding Jan Quist Johansen and his family have apparently rejected an offer of $600,000 and insisted that they want millions, perhaps ten times the sum proposed by the family so far.

Jan Quist Johansen and his family have been held since February and negotiations have been ongoing, led by Johansen’s brother. However, the pirates are said to have now warned that they are running out of patience at what they see as a continued refusal to offer millions, rather than hundreds of thousands, of dollars for the family’s safe return.

Micky Dolenz

So thousands of people dying is funny now? New low.

Dravokivich

Lent, in July?

Rabidlamb

Africa just stumbles from crisis to crisis.
When their first instinct is to slaughter their neighbours & divert aid money to buy arms they lose my sympathy.
In the last week I've watched videos of witches being burned alive in Kenya & some guy getting petrol thrown on him then lit for stealing a sack of spuds.
This continent needs to start acting civilized & it seriously needs to curb it's over population in regions with no resources.

The suffering can have my pity, nothing else.

temply

123balltv wrote: »

I wish they could only show them starving ads in rich peoples houses lotto winners/celebrities etc

in my house where already struggling them ads dont help
they make us feel even more depressed

I'm just numb to them these days.

They irritate me more than anything.

Latchy

Many People have Africa/Ethiophia,3rd world fatigue , if only when you hear how millions of £'s and $'s are siphoned off or diverted elsewere as well as the purchase of arms for militia groups but if what does get through saves people from starving and helps rebuild shattered lives, then it will be worth it. People will always donate what they can

Siuin

Somalians: Still holding on for a flotilla of their own!

7sr2z3fely84g5

How much money would we have to donate to "cure" this world hunger,we cant seem to even give enough money to the banks ffs :mad:

Einhard

mrmeindl wrote: »

I dont give a flying **** about somalia..think people are getting fed up with all the charities constantly begging for money when most of the money raised is spent on administration.

Sorry, but do you have proof of this? A lot of this is being spouted around here, and I have yet to see anything to back it up. I give to a couple of charities occasionally, and it was quite simple to check the amounts they spent on admin. If you don't want to cough up, fine, that's your perogative, but I wish people would stop with this faux-cynical lark.

SharpshooterTom

We should try and look after our fellow human beings on this planet. There are 7 billion of us. We need to do everything we can to eliminate poverty, even if we can't entirely. This is why I hate the concept of having nation states because it makes people so insular.

Saila

hear that? thats the sound of a whale in distress, quick save him..