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what other burial options are out there?

  • 19-07-2011 1:19pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭


    its come to the stage where i no longer want anything to do with the church,any religion for that matter, i think its unfair if you want to get married you need to do a course run by the church,if you die you need to be laid out at a church (usually), then have a mass,then a burial where a priest says a few words and blesses the ground or whatever,

    i dont want to be associated with the church or have any priest say anything on my behalf or that of my familly, im sick of the catholic church and all it stands for,its protection of priests and unwillingness to open itself to all investigations regarding abuses carried out by priests.

    is their any alternitive to a church burial/funeral, i know you can be cremated but you still have a mass and all that, can you be laid to rest somewhere without the church's involvement?

    legally of course


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    I think that we should plant bodies in the houses of people we don't like and then ring the Gaurds. It's like hide and seek.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    I think that we should plant bodies in the houses of people we don't like and then ring the Gaurds. It's like hide and seek.

    thrilling


    any real input?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    we could roll you up in carpet and throw you off a bridge???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Shilling my own forum idea for a funeral forum if anyone would like to support it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056326055

    In the UK you can get buried in the back garden or you could get buried at sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    I'd love a sky burial.

    Nice and natural, and nothing left over. Nice to know my delicious corpse is being enjoyed too.
    It might not have the same sense of grandeur in Ireland though, being nibbled by starlings and pigeons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    I'll be opting for a funeral pyre if I have a say in the matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭fend


    Friend of mine's father dies last year and he was cremated... Went to the cremitorium in Dublin. No mass, just his family saying a few words, and some of his favorite songs were played.

    It was the first time I'd been to a funeral which didnt involve religion. And I have to say, it was far more personal and meaningful than listening to a priest who didnt even know you, ramble on about you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    Corsendonk wrote: »
    Shilling my own forum idea for a funeral forum if anyone would like to support it.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056326055

    In the UK you can get buried in the back garden or you could get buried at sea.

    thats all basicly following the regular burial pattern though, i dont want the church involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Would you not just donate your body to science?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    FatherLen wrote: »
    we could roll you up in carpet and throw you off a bridge???

    My boss told me that if anyone offended him he'd tie them up in chicken wire and drop them off his boat. Apparently the crabs will get rid of everything in a few hours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    A big plastic drum and a sh1tload of sulphuric acid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    My Grandad said he wanted to be cremated, and his ashes mixed into a bucket of plaster and plastered onto the walls and ceilings in the house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    I'd love a sky burial.

    Nice and natural, and nothing left over. Nice to know my delicious corpse is being enjoyed too.
    It might not have the same sense of grandeur in Ireland though, being nibbled by starlings and pigeons.

    not sure that would be legal here, i like the general idea though,

    wasnt there a orchard or something that you can get buried at,and a tree planted on you,the tree becomes your headstone over time?? and people go visit an orchard rather than a eerie graveyard.

    anyone hear of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    we could have you stuffed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    barone wrote: »
    its come to the stage where i no longer want anything to do with the church,any religion for that matter, i think its unfair if you want to get married you need to do a course run by the church,if you die you need to be laid out at a church (usually), then have a mass,then a burial where a priest says a few words and blesses the ground or whatever,

    i dont want to be associated with the church or have any priest say anything on my behalf or that of my familly, im sick of the catholic church and all it stands for,its protection of priests and unwillingness to open itself to all investigations regarding abuses carried out by priests.

    is their any alternitive to a church burial/funeral, i know you can be cremated but you still have a mass and all that, can you be laid to rest somewhere without the church's involvement?

    legally of course

    Have a service/gathering at a funeral home, they are a non-denominational, areligious space. You could have someone officiate over the ceremony and buried in a council graveyard. Most new graveyeards are not connected to the church. Alternatively you could get cremated and have your ashes buried at a place of your choosing. Say you owned land you could plant the ashes in the ground and plant a tree over them as a mark of remembrance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35 PrincessPixie


    a simple google returns all you need to know..check out the following website..

    http://www.rip.ie/menu.asp?menu=345


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Oh gawd op are you literally try to jsut make a point by posting in AH?

    If you wanted alternative burial ways then there are several other forums far more suited than here.

    If you want to get married you dont have to involve the church and if you want to have a burial then you dont need them either.

    I'm sure I read how Humanist Ireland have a whole range of alternatives.


    Personally I wouldnt do cremation as quite often there are several bodies burned at once to save money(And no its not an old wives tale was at a cremation recently)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭positron


    Seloth wrote: »
    Personally I wouldnt do cremation as quite often there are several bodies burned at once to save money(And no its not an old wives tale was at a cremation recently)

    Just wondering what's wrong with that? You are dead anyway, it's not like you could be annoyed with the next guy's smelly feet? :D

    PS: I personally think donating to science is a great idea. At least it will help (ever so slightly) reduce the demand for smuggled corpses coming in to Europe and America from various parts of the developing world. If not that, I wouldn't mind a burial (without the coffin), or a cremation (again, in the most eco-friendly way).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭iceman777


    1. the service can be held at the graveside or at the crematorium or undertakers: http://www.rip.ie/menu.asp?menu=345

    2. Woodland Burial http://www.deadireland.com/pages/natural_burials.htm


    3. A non-denominational service with spoken and silent prayer also incorporated into the service. Scripture readings may be read by members of the family or friends and a service could end with a prayer, but this is only at the wish of the family: http://www.rip.ie/menu.asp?menu=368

    Contact Mary Dillon (independent funeral service facilitator) who has her details at the bottom of the link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Turkana


    Creature wrote: »
    Would you not just donate your body to science?

    Fcuk that!! You'll be poked to shreds in lab class by a load of crusty hungover UCD students.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Cremataion, asked in an urn on a raft, sailed out to sea, and then set upon fire via arches firing flaming arrows. Possibly to the tune of Ride of the Valkyries.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    Seloth wrote: »
    Oh gawd op are you literally try to jsut make a point by posting in AH?

    If you wanted alternative burial ways then there are several other forums far more suited than here.

    If you want to get married you dont have to involve the church and if you want to have a burial then you dont need them either.

    I'm sure I read how Humanist Ireland have a whole range of alternatives.


    Personally I wouldnt do cremation as quite often there are several bodies burned at once to save money(And no its not an old wives tale was at a cremation recently)

    Not accurate though.. In fact it is a total distortion of the truth. You are trying to imply that the ashes get mixed. This is bullshíte. You are cremated your family get your ashes. End of. Everything else is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭bacon?


    You can get yourself turned into a fake gem stone.

    No bs, I remember seeing this online somewhere... a bit weird and creepy, but also a bit cool....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Cliffs of Moher -Business with pleasure:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Not accurate though.. In fact it is a total distortion of the truth. You are trying to imply that the ashes get mixed. This is bullshíte. You are cremated your family get your ashes. End of. Everything else is wrong.

    I'll just pat you on the head and smile.

    *pats head*:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭sollar


    Have you a compost bin. You could be placed in it and then spread over the garden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    barone wrote: »
    i think its unfair if you want to get married you need to do a course run by the church...

    No you don't. You can get married in a registry office.

    As for the funeral thingie, as soon as I find out I'm done for, I'm going to arrange my own funeral, which will involve donating anything worthwhile, giving the rest to science and when they're finished with it, a humanist burial.

    Or they can put me in the brown bin. I don't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    Why do you care? If I'm dead I don't care if I get a traditional church funeral, muslim, buddhist, aboriginal or boards.ie cream of the crop militant atheist sending off I wouldn't care cause I'd be fecking dead.

    I just hope there will be nice sandwiches for anyone who decides to show up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I want my dead body to be blown to pieces like this.

    Skip to 1:00.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Burky126


    1. Rent a plane

    2. Dress body in a superman costume.

    3. Throw body down onto a nearby playground.

    Result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Burky126 wrote: »
    1. Rent a plane

    2. Dress body in a superman costume.

    3. Throw body down onto a nearby playground.

    Result.

    Ah, the old "throw the body out of a plane routine". Also known as a traditional Argentinian funeral.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    Ah, the old "throw the body out of a plane routine". Also known as a traditional Argentinian funeral.

    I thought the Arentinians would know by now that those dead bodies on planes can be handy for when you crash in the Andes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Needler wrote: »
    I thought the Arentinians would know by now that those dead bodies on planes can be handy for when you crash in the Andes?

    Those guys were all from the homosexual country of Uruguay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Creature wrote: »
    Would you not just donate your body to science?
    Minus your head, of course. You don't want some wacky med student to try to revive you...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    Those guys were all from the homosexual country of Uruguay.

    Its all the Argentinian Isles to me. Besides Uruguay is a poxy small country that can't run itself due to its inferior size and should just join up with Argentina instead


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    cremation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Soylent green ftw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Needler wrote: »
    Its all the Argentinian Isles to me. Besides Uruguay is a poxy small country that can't run itself due to its inferior size and should just join up with Argentina instead

    Agreed. Small countries like that are a joke. That goes doubly so if they haven't won the world cup twice or haven't even qualified for the finals since 2002.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Yes you can be laid to rest with out any church being involved.

    The bigger graveyards are own by county councils and any can buy a plot in them.
    Your body can go from the funeral parlour/home directly to the graveyard with out going anywhere near a church or having a priest present.

    IF you wish for a non religious ceremony then I suggest you have look at this.
    http://www.humanism.ie/website/ceremonies/celebrating-a-life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    1. Tell family you want a non-religious funeral
    2. Let them worry about it

    Seriously though, my mam told me that she is not allowed to have her funeral in a church because she got divorced. Is that true?
    She is going to donate her body to science.

    I would prefer to be cremated (buried alive is a terrible fear of mine) but my OH is all about church and graveyard so if I go first its not like I can do a sweet thing about it if he decides to bury me. I might just lash it in the auld will.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭barone


    Seloth wrote: »
    Oh gawd op are you literally try to jsut make a point by posting in AH?

    If you wanted alternative burial ways then there are several other forums far more suited than here.

    If you want to get married you dont have to involve the church and if you want to have a burial then you dont need them either.

    I'm sure I read how Humanist Ireland have a whole range of alternatives.


    Personally I wouldnt do cremation as quite often there are several bodies burned at once to save money(And no its not an old wives tale was at a cremation recently)
    i use ah,motors and football on boards.. i can get all the info i need in one of theese usualy


    sollar wrote: »
    Have you a compost bin. You could be placed in it and then spread over the garden.

    na,but thanks
    Needler wrote: »
    Why do you care? If I'm dead I don't care if I get a traditional church funeral, muslim, buddhist, aboriginal or boards.ie cream of the crop militant atheist sending off I wouldn't care cause I'd be fecking dead.



    I just hope there will be nice sandwiches for anyone who decides to show up

    i care because im sick of the catholic church in this country and the way it has treated its followers, young and old. i dont want them involved in my death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Shivers26 wrote: »
    1. Tell family you want a non-religious funeral
    2. Let them worry about it

    Seriously though, my mam told me that she is not allowed to have her funeral in a church because she got divorced. Is that true?
    She is going to donate her body to science.

    I would prefer to be cremated (buried alive is a terrible fear of mine) but my OH is all about church and graveyard so if I go first its not like I can do a sweet thing about it if he decides to bury me. I might just lash it in the auld will.

    you do get that dying is all about not being alive :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    In Scandinavia they cremate the dead bodies in a crematorium and use the heat generated to heat water for district housing heating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I want a Viking burial. Put my body in a longboat, set it on fire and set it afloat down the river Lee and out to sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Up to your balls in Bibi Baskin? Beats a hole in the ground any day.

    Personally, I would fancy a cardboard coffin with a nice oak tree planted on top of me noggin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Turkana wrote: »
    Fcuk that!! You'll be poked to shreds in lab class by a load of crusty hungover UCD students.

    Exactly you get to have your bits fondled by young wans, what's not to like?

    the_syco wrote: »
    Minus your head, of course. You don't want some wacky med student to try to revive you...

    Oh I don't know about that, being an undead automaton must have it's advantages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    I'd be pretty happy given it to someone who would get a bit of craic out of my dead corpse. Maybe the Jackass guys or Dirty Sanchez or someone like that could do pranks with me and scare the crap out of people. When they are all done they could chop me up and play baseball or something with my head using my leg as a bat.
    Or maybe the Mythbusters could use me instead of buster. I'm sure it would be a bit a craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I want my pockets stuffed with sweets and my body trebucheted into an orphanage*.































    Stolen from another AH thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    I want my corpse to be donated to the cause of science. So no doubt I'll be disposed of in various bio-bags and incinerators round the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    Saila wrote: »
    you do get that dying is all about not being alive :confused:

    Obviously I do get that but what if they made a mistake or something and I wasn't totally dead :eek:
    Cremation FTW or else a damn good autopsy


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