€10,000 portrait of bertie ahern

ilovesleep

A portrait of bertie ahern costing 10,000 euro to be hung in the dail.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/euro10000-for-bertie-portrait-a-waste-2823664.html

I am absolutely utterly sickened at this. At times of austerity where hospital wards will be closed, and children with additional needs will be denied the SNAs that they need, a 10,000 euro portrait of bertie ahern will be hung in the dail.

I can hang him for free.

Jarren

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/small/0809/bertie-ahern-ireland-bertie-ahern-derek-zoolander-demotivational-poster-1220789700.jpg

Ruu_Old

Well as long as they don't hang the Biffo painting anywhere, I'm okay!

More wastage of money again, guess things will never change is this poxy country :mad:

discus

He's part of our history, for better or for worse. I'm all for austerity, but it's important that we remember and learn from our path through history.... To prevent future necessities for austerity.

PS Bertie is a cunt.

Patri

They should just put it in a cupboard instead.

Ruu

Ruu wrote: »

Well as long as they don't hang the Biffo painting anywhere, I'm okay!

They'd need a bigger wall for a start

phasers

They should run a portrait contest on the Den every time a Taoiseach leaves office. Viewers can vote for their favourite online. Every vote also goes into a raffle to win a date with Sharon Ní Bheolain or Derek Mooney, depending on who's in the RTE canteen that night.

Biggins

I reported on this months ago: http://www.unitedpeople.ie/state.html
It is indeed a disgrace. The picture itself is a piece of crap.

Run_to_da_hills

Patri wrote: »

They should just put it in a cupboard instead.

Have it displayed in a fart gallery.

nicechick!

so frustrating!

admiralofthefleet

fine gael/fianna fail - they are all out of the the one stable

Scuid Mhór

don't worry guys. when i'm taoiseach i will personally burn it.

ilovesleep

discus wrote: »

He's part of our history, for better or for worse. I'm all for austerity, but it's important that we remember and learn from our path through history.... To prevent future necessities for austerity.

PS Bertie is a cunt.

Would a photo not do?

starbelgrade

A bit pricey for a dart board, but if I had a few spare quid, I'd definitely buy it.

Cicero

*cleans and hoovers phonebox ready for the unveiling*

Biggins

Scuid Mhór wrote: »

don't worry guys. when i'm taoiseach i will personally burn it.

You and me both!

zyxwvu

Strange.. most people seemed to love Bertie a few years back when we had arguably the greatest living standards of any country ever..

KilOit

He was still Taoiseach, you just don't sweep the past under the rug. i'm sure every president of US is hanging up on the wall in the White House.

Run_to_da_hills

They were supposed to do a similar portrait of Mary Harney but they couldn't find a wall big enough.

Senna

Unless its hanging in the toilets, its a disgrace. The amount of people who cant see what a corrupt scumbag he is/was. History will paint the full picture.

starbelgrade

zyxwvu wrote: »

Strange.. most people seemed to love Bertie a few years back when we had arguably the greatest living standards of any country ever..

Most people didn't. His government never had a clear majority. They had a lot of voters, granted, but less than 50% of the people who voted, didn't vote Fianna Fail & relatively very few people in the country voted for - or even had the chance to vote for (or against) Bertie Ahern.

Biggins

The good news is that I heard an inquiry into the banking fiasco, will be calling on him, to question some of his activities soon during his era in power so he's not yet got off scott free.

Aldebaran

KilOit wrote: »

He was still Taoiseach, you just don't sweep the past under the rug. i'm sure every president of US is hanging up on the wall in the White House.

I'm sure most people don't have a problem with a painting of Bertie hanging on some wall in the Dáil, it's the fact that a €10,000 painting of Bertie will be hanging on some wall in the Dáil.

Run_to_da_hills

I hope they have a designated area in the Dail for these paintings named "the hall of shame".

Sonnenblumen

ilovesleep wrote: »

A portrait of bertie ahern costing 10,000 euro to be hung in the dail.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/euro10000-for-bertie-portrait-a-waste-2823664.html

I am absolutely utterly sickened at this. At times of austerity where hospital wards will be closed, and children with additional needs will be denied the SNAs that they need, a 10,000 euro portrait of bertie ahern will be hung in the dail.

I can hang him for free.

Life goes on even with less money.

Biggins

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I hope they have a designated area in the Dail for these paintings named "the hall of shame".

Hopefully in the toilets area!

discus

ilovesleep wrote: »

Would a photo not do?

Do you really think that we, Ireland, should disrespect the position of Taoiseach so much as to record their their time in office (regardless of their performance) with a paltry photograph?

Biggins

discus wrote: »

Do you really think that we, Ireland, should disrespect the position of Taoiseach so much as to record their their time in office (regardless of their performance) with a paltry photograph?

Feckin' cheaper and more accurate than that piece of expensive crap!

discus

Biggins wrote: »

Feckin' cheaper and more accurate than that piece of expensive crap!

Yes good idea, let's sell what little class and dignity this country has left.

KilOit

Aldebaran wrote: »

I'm sure most people don't have a problem with a painting of Bertie hanging on some wall in the Dáil, it's the fact that a €10,000 painting of Bertie will be hanging on some wall in the Dáil.

Well you ain't gonna get johney down the road to paint something that will probably hang in the Dáil for possibly hundreds of years.

7sr2z3fely84g5

zyxwvu wrote: »

Strange.. most people seemed to love Bertie a few years back when we had arguably the greatest living standards of any country ever..

some few yes,but alot didnt see this "booming ecomony" stuff,tbh the country was sloppy back then,we took our eye off the ball,allowed rates and services to go up in prices,vasts amount of money wasted like the port tunnel or thornton hall,turning a blind eye to anyone who was bone idle and claiming on dole when there was alot of jobs available at time.

Biggins

discus wrote: »

Yes good idea, let's sell what little class and dignity this country has left.

Well we paid €10,000 for a schite looking painting (and it really is bad) that one third of it is pure cheap looking blue background - what class is that! Thats approx €3500+ for plain blue paint!
Classly alright!

discus

Corinne Fancy Sparrow wrote: »

some few yes,but alot didnt see this "booming ecomony" stuff,tbh the country was sloppy back then,we took our eye off the ball,allowed rates and services to go up in prices,vasts amount of money wasted like the port tunnel or thornton hall,turning a blind eye to anyone who was bone idle and claiming on dole when there was alot of jobs available at time.

Yes, "took our eye off the ball"... Well, most of the country did.

A fair few of us didn't buy into the **** that the nouveau-riche were pushing in their rag newspapers and glossies. We didn't buy extra houses or replace our cars every 2 years with increasingly larger models.

If you have trouble spotting us, we are the ones who aren't constantly moaning about "that last shower" because we weren't thick enough to drink their Kool-Aid.

Crazy Horse 6

ilovesleep wrote: »

A portrait of bertie ahern costing 10,000 euro to be hung in the dail.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/euro10000-for-bertie-portrait-a-waste-2823664.html

I am absolutely utterly sickened at this. At times of austerity where hospital wards will be closed, and children with additional needs will be denied the SNAs that they need, a 10,000 euro portrait of bertie ahern will be hung in the dail.

I can hang him for free.

Could be a tipping point this

tayto lover

I hope Mad Ming mangles it.

Aldebaran

KilOit wrote: »

Well you ain't gonna get johney down the road to paint something that will probably hang in the Dáil for possibly hundreds of years.

So those are the two options? 'Johney down the road' or some fella charging €10,000? Absolutely no middle ground there whatsoever?

discus

Biggins wrote: »

Well we paid €10,000 for a schite looking painting (and it really is bad) that one third of it is pure cheap looking blue background - what class is that! Thats approx €3500+ for plain blue paint!
Classly alright!

**** sake, 10,000 is nothing to the countries budget. Don't feed socialist lines like "we could have gotten an SNA/hospital trolley" etc. The fact is that the money for these types of things are set aside every year. If you think it's not worth doing, why weren't you complaining years ago?

phasers

What about students at NCAD or something similar? Surely there's some talented artists there who could knock something up for a few hundred quid?

Senna

zyxwvu wrote: »

Strange.. most people seemed to love Bertie a few years back when we had arguably the greatest living standards of any country ever..

When Hitler came to power he was loved by the German people, you cant really blame them for changing their minds either.








whats the thing about every thread eventually mentioning hitler, probably a common occurrence in bertie threads

discus

Do you think that 10000 euros would make a difference to this country? If it wasn't spent from the budget is was allocated to, it would be returned to the coffers at the end of the year, and probably given away to service some debt or other. At least the money stays in the country this way.

Can Ireland please try keep some sense of dignity...

We had less money years ago, and we had some great works commissioned at great expense. A lot of them were morally and ethically controversial (think the statue in Fairview park), but that is our history and so we go on. You're giving out about pennies here people.

Biggins

discus wrote: »

**** sake, 10,000 is nothing to the countries budget. Don't feed socialist lines like "we could have gotten an SNA/hospital trolley" etc. The fact is that the money for these types of things are set aside every year. If you think it's not worth doing, why weren't you complaining years ago?

I was (there is a picture of it on my site) - and by the way, I haven't fed any socialist line!
Money for leaders paintings are not set aside every year - not unless we have been changing them over annually and I don't know about it!

I've seen the ruddy thing (it was occasionally shown at exhibitions organised by the Office of Public Works (OPW) but was generally otherwise in storage since 2008.). It desperate - it truly is.
It looks genuinely like a cheap piece of crap but sadly it wasn't so cheap.

There are better genuine painters selling their skills in the St Stephens Green shopping centre (third floor, left side) who could do a better painting.

discus

Biggins wrote: »

I was - and by the way, I haven't fed any socialist line!
Money for leaders paintings are not set aside every year - not unless we have been changing them over annually and I don't know about it!

I've seen the ruddy thing (it was occasionally shown at exhibitions organised by the Office of Public Works (OPW).). It desperate - it truly is.
It looks genuinely like a cheap piece of crap but sadly it wasn't so cheap.

It wasn't expensive either. We better start complaining about the millions spent on the Paddys Day parade - money for ****ty crepe paper!

I'm glad is looks ****e, I'd hate to think that Bertie recieved the same effort as Fitzgerald, DeValera, Lemass or Lynch.

Biggins

discus wrote: »

...I'm glad is looks ****e, I'd hate to think that Bertie recieved the same effort as Fitzgerald, DeValera, Lemass or Lynch.

No argument there!

Biggins

The next painting to be hung up is Cowens.
I genuinely hope they got a better painter. Thats all.

Liam Byrne

discus wrote: »

Yes, "took our eye off the ball"... Well, most of the country did.

A fair few of us didn't buy into the **** that the nouveau-riche were pushing in their rag newspapers and glossies. We didn't buy extra houses or replace our cars every 2 years with increasingly larger models.

If you have trouble spotting us, we are the ones who aren't constantly moaning about "that last shower" because we weren't thick enough to drink their Kool-Aid.

You had me until the last paragraph, because "the last shower" gave all of us the bill for said Kool Aid, despite the fact that we didn't drink it.

discus

Liam Byrne wrote: »

You had me until the last paragraph, because "the last shower" gave all of us the bill for said Kool Aid, despite the fact that we didn't drink it.

Yeah true, but unfortunately we live in a democracy, and that government was elected by our peers. I'd rather have a ****ty national debt than lets say... Sharia Law, Communist Government, Socialist Government, Dictatorship or Lawless bandit country (think somalia).

I don't care much for what Moodys have to say, Ireland actually doesn't have it that bad.

ilovesleep

discus wrote: »

Ireland actually doesn't have it that bad.

Yet! We are going to be taxed into a default and poverty. And read the slave internship scheme thread.

discus

ilovesleep wrote: »

Yet! We are going to be taxed into a default and poverty. And read the slave internship scheme thread.

Oh how awful. We have a relatively cheap and easily accessible 3rd level education system, and the government have stepped in to try and get people the necessary experience so that they can get jobs here, or at least give you the chance to go abroad with your qualifications and experience.

We'll be taxed into default soon anyway if we don't start cutting welfare payments, catching dole scroungers, cutting foreign aid, and centralising hospitals... but each and every one of those cuts will be protested against by who? By the people who got us in here in the first place... Those who want it all; those who blame everyone else. I'm sure when we do default, that same group will be complaining about the Labour/FG government that didn't have the balls to make the cuts.

7sr2z3fely84g5

Theres so much debt out there is strangling the country,but yet theres those who took out mortgages bigger than what they could realistically afford,then there's others who no fault of their own lost their job or working hours and now faced with going hungry to pay the bills,it's a big fck up we got ourselves into.

Then there's those who have neither but have to bail out those who wanted to keep up with the jones during the good times.

Liam Byrne

Corinne Fancy Sparrow wrote: »

Theres so much debt out there is strangling the country,but yet theres those who took out mortgages bigger than what they could realistically afford,then there's others who no fault of their own lost their job or working hours and now faced with going hungry to pay the bills,it's a big fck up we got ourselves into.

Then there's those who have neither but have to bail out those who wanted to keep up with the jones during the good times.

I'd phrase the first paragraph better if I wanted it to be accurate; it should read "they got themselves into".