Justify a 400k salary

Ricardo G

After watching the news on Saturday evening i was shocked to see that John Delaney is receving a salary of 400k per annum :eek:. Enda Kenny is on 230k per annum. What makes John Delaney so fantastic that he deserves it ?, he also stated that he took quite a substantial voluntary 50k drop in salary, Wow, how will he survice.......Madness

Tea_Bag

depends really. is he dating your ma?

It wasn't me!

Not everyone earns the same amount of money and it's not based on some empirical universal theory of value of the work they do. Deal with it.

Standard Toaster

Who the feck is John Delaney?

chin_grin

To support their coke and hooker lifestyle.

Ricardo G

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Not everyone earns the same amount of money and it's not based on some empirical universal theory of value of the work they do. Deal with it.

How insightful :rolleyes:, as the french may call you "le muppet"...

All i'm asking is how he is worth a salary of that magnitude

Absurdum

presume that's the lad from the FAI? that's ****in madness if it is, no matter how good he is (and he's not!), the Football Association of Ireland hardly merit handing out that much money. 100k would be more realistic, spend the rest on getting kids off their fat asses and into sports.

It wasn't me!

Ricardo G wrote: »

How insightful :rolleyes:, as the french may call you "le muppet"...

All i'm asking is how he is worth a salary of that magnitude

There's no such thing as being "worth a salary" because there's no universal theory of the empirical value of work. Justify your own specific salary versus your neighbour's and you'll find exactly the same. Magnitude is irrelevant.

Gary4279

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Who the feck is John Delaney?

Some fella that gets paid **** loads to ruin Irish football...

phasers

Footballers totally earn their 250k a week

pickarooney

It wasn't me! wrote: »

There's no such thing as being "worth a salary" because there's no universal theory of the empirical value of work. Justify your own specific salary versus your neighbour's and you'll find exactly the same. Magnitude is irrelevant.

I just heard your theory go Pop...




Pop!

biko

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Who the feck is John Delaney?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/delaney-on-defensive-over-euro400k-pay-packet-2824004.html

Soccer boss

Afterwards, though, Delaney was placed on the defensive about his considerable pay packet even though he has taken a voluntary pay-cut of €50,000 over the past two years -- a drop of €17,500 in 2010 and another €32,500 this year.

He said that the other members of the FAI Board of Management were against a reduction in his salary.

"I'm not going to speak of the reasons," said Delaney, when it was put to him that he earns twice as much as the Taoiseach. "The board believes it's justifiable. I work very hard and deliver for the association to the best of my abilities. They (the board) didn't want to reduce my salary, which is something I voluntarily did last year and this year.

"It went from €450,000 to €431,000 and it will be around €400,000 now after the latest reduction," continued Delaney, who refused to disclose what portion of the figure relates to

bastados

they pay 400k to that face

the mind boggles

SEPT 23 1989

And yet you have kids with no changing facilities playing football every weekend in this country

Standard Toaster

Ah right. Hey cheer up John, recession won't last forever.
Good to see Mr Delaney is happy with his €400k salary. The FAI are like €50m in the red right? & he gets twice as much as the Taoiseach.

Arse.

dpe

Since you'd expect the FAI to benchmark themselves against other associations of similar size around the world, then the simple answer is, its not justified.

its not justified against competitive benchmarks, its not justified against turnover (approx. €40M) and its not justified against success. Question is, who decided that job paid 400K in the first place?

lucylu

Heard Roddy Collins speaking about this over the weekend on RTE radio 1. he was disgusted. With the FAI posting a loss this year and so many people who volunteer to run, train, manage soccer clubs across the country John Delaney gets 400k for what?


He has a point.

baby and crumble

I have no idea about football but I can only assume he needs most of that to pay for the upkeep of his magnificent wig.

54kroc

400k, I'd buy me a nice big bag of gun's and a gaggle of hookers.

mikemac

Got tax dodger Denis O'Brien to pay a portion of Il Trap's salary
As soon as the Eircom deal ended, 3 were snapped up

It's like Gerry Ryan on his massive 500k but the show pulled in over 3 million a year in advertising.

It's not suprising the FAI are now losing money since corporate sponsorship is drying up. Since the FAI made a loss he has to take a major cut

Mr. Denton

Footballers earn 250k p/w because that's the going rate if you want their services.

HoweverI don't believe Delaney is worth 400k p/a or that you couldn't find a guy who could do a better job for half the price. They guy is a goon who is ruining the national teams chances with pointless games in front of half-empty stadiums just to pay the mortgage on his half of the white elephant.

tommyhaas

phasers wrote: »

Footballers totally earn their 250k a week

In alot of cases they do. Once the club earn more then that as a result of the players commercial worth and on-field contribution, they do earn it

is this private income yes? who cares then

Killer Pigeon

If the taxes you are paying are not going towards their salary then what they earn is none of your business to be honest.

Phill Ewinn

Plenty of folks making that kind of money. Scandalous that the likes of him are making it. No value there!

Think I should get twice that if thats the best we can come up with.

Sack him and hire an ''intern'' to do it for free. Then get some other country to hire him, fvck their football team up and thereby increase our chances of winning matches.

mstan

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Who the feck is John Delaney?

I baffles me whenever I see a post like this. Have you never fcuking heard of a thing called Google?

Sykk

I had to wikipedia him.. That's disgraceful.

tommyhaas

mstan wrote: »

I baffles me whenever I see a post like this. Have you never fcuking heard of a thing called Google?

Yea, but googling the name to find out doesn't increase your thanks count

Sonics2k

Gary4279 wrote: »

Some fella that gets paid **** loads to ruin Irish football...

He's doing a **** job of it.

speedboatchase

Sykk wrote: »

I had to wikipedia him.. That's disgraceful.

Is it public money though? If not and it's purely private sector then it shouldn't bother people

Standard Toaster

mstan wrote: »

I baffles me whenever I see a post like this. Have you never fcuking heard of a thing called Google?

I'm on a Mac here, I don't think I have Google installed.

inforfun

The president of the Dutch FA (close to 1 million members) gets €150.000 a year as far as i know.
So €400.000 for the Irish FA president seems a bit much.
About €350.000 too much.

dpe

Standard Toaster wrote: »

I'm on a Mac here, I don't think I have Google installed.

"I don't think I have Google installed" WTF?? :eek: Whaddaya mean, "installed"?

kraggy

bluewolf wrote: »

is this private income yes? who cares then

The Government give the FAI money.

CrazyRabbit

All I know is that I'm well worth my salary of €6400 & free M&M's per year

beertons

would love to know their reasons behind keeping their reasons secret. shouldn't a breakdown of their expenses and accounts be available to view somewhere?

Mr. Denton

inforfun wrote: »

The president of the Dutch FA (close to 1 million members) gets €150.000 a year as far as i know.
So €400.000 for the Irish FA president seems a bit much.
About €350.000 too much.

I was thinking about 400k too much. They run it like a bunch of amateurs so they should be paid as amateurs.

phasers

tommyhaas wrote: »

In alot of cases they do. Once the club earn more then that as a result of the players commercial worth and on-field contribution, they do earn it

No, they really don't.

I've noticed the definition of 'earn' has changed in modern times. Some bloke running around for 90 minutes and maybe kicking a bit of leather into a net has not 'earned' 250k. He is just paid that much. Regardless of what the club makes from him.

stovelid

If I had a 400k, it would be grand.

Anybody else that has one is a cunt.

On a serious note: the salary of John Delaney is certainly in poor taste seeing as the prize money for winning the League of Ireland premier division has been slashed by nearly 300% in the last 3 seasons.

The Volt

The notion of a salary like this is disgusting when the game at grassroots level is, by and large run by volunteers.

Vanderbilt

It can't be justified. If you were feeling generous €150k tops imo.

Wiki says he became CEO in 2004.

Hardly surprising then that heres yet another guy with his snout in the trough.

What sort of salary is his compatriot Philip Browne in the IRFU on I wonder......

subway

stovelid wrote: »

the prize money for winning the League of Ireland premier division has been slashed by nearly 300% in the last 3 seasons.

you have to pay the FAI if you win???

stovelid

subway wrote: »

you have to pay the FAI if you win???

Believe it or not, clubs do have to pay the FAI around 20k a year to even compete in the league.

Actually my calculation was bandy too. The league prize money went from 290k to 100k in 3 seasons, IIRC.

Vicxas

400k salary is ridiculous, although i wouldnt complain if i was getting even a quarter of that...

sheesh

Standard Toaster wrote: »

I'm on a Mac here, I don't think I have Google installed.

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phasers wrote: »

No, they really don't.

I've noticed the definition of 'earn' has changed in modern times. Some bloke running around for 90 minutes and maybe kicking a bit of leather into a net has not 'earned' 250k. He is just paid that much. Regardless of what the club makes from him.

Now now, that's not entirely accurate. Some of them keep the bit of leather away from the net.

Zebra3

I can justify many a €400,000 a year salary.



But not this one.

GLaDOS

stovelid wrote: »

Believe it or not, clubs do have to pay the FAI around 20k a year to even compete in the league.

Actually my calculation was bandy too. The league prize money went from 290k to 100k in 3 seasons, IIRC.

Teams have to pay for medals and officials accommodation/food for the league cup as well don't they?

LighterGuy

Here is something I have noticed in life, im sure i am not the only one.
When someone is on the recieving end of something (positively) doesnt matter what it is. They justify it. Especially when it comes to money.

But then theres another side in life, if someone is willing to pay you a mental amount. Take it. Who here wouldnt take 400k to do that job? ... no-one would decline.


Not to use those words again .. "begrudary" (gets thrown around alot) ... but lets look at the situation. everyone here would gladly accept that amount for that job, or any job. So ... how can you be against it, knowing you'd have no issues accepting it.

So, begrudary / jealously.

goingpostal

speedboatchase wrote: »

Is it public money though? If not and it's purely private sector then it shouldn't bother people

400k would buy a lot of nets, goalposts, lawnmowers, changing rooms, whiteline paint etc., for young boys and girls countrywide who want to play the game of soccer. The FAI (which claims to represent our nation in the sport of soccer) is an organisation with limited resources, the subject of whether paying 400k to a CEO and 1.8m approx. to a national team manager is the best use of those limited resources, when both jobs could be filled for far less, is a legitimate topic of debate. Seriously, who else is going to pay John Delaney or Trapatoni even a fraction of what they earn now, if they were sacked in the morning?

The description of the meeting in Ennis in yesterdays Independent sounded like a cross between a cult meeting where everyone is forced to worship the fearless leader and a meeting of some totalitarian autocratic party. No debate vill be tolerated!! Sieg Heil, Mein Fearless Fuhrer!

Carter P Fly

meh, Job was offered at 400k, he put his name forward and got it, fair dues to him.

The question is why the FAI can justify paying Anybody this amount, not why this person in particualr is recieving it.