Life after profesional rugby.

feckincrazy

Just thinking to myself what happend to the following rugby players after they retired. Such as are they employed.

Ciaran scally
Bernard Jackman
Nick popplewell
John fogarty
rory sheriff
nathan spooner
domomic crotty
John o neill
Peter Coyle
Malcolm o kelly.
Mossy finn
Brian Carney
John Kelly
Terry kingston
Gary halpin.

Current players finished in rugby:

Ian dowling
Barry Murphy
Eoin Sheriff.

What are these people currently working at or has the reccison hit them all as well.

thomond2006

Brian Carney is a Rugby League pundit with Sky Sports.

Riskymove

feckincrazy wrote: »

Just thinking to myself what happend to the following rugby players after they retired. Such as are they employed.

a lot of the older people you mention were probably in certain careers prior to the game going professional and so had options

for the more recent retirees it will be different, there are only so many coaching/tv jobs available in rugby compared to , say, soccer in the UK.

GerM

Who I know of:

Ciaran scally - Accountant, was with KPMG, not sure anymore
Bernard Jackman - Doing a lot of different things in sport. Was coaching Clontarf, DCU and the Wexford GAA side. Resigned from Tarf and looking to get into full time coaching with a pro set up.
Nick popplewell - Works in property. Estate agent or some such.
John fogarty - Forwards coach at Old Belvedere.
Dominic Crotty - Working in biotech in California I think.
Malcolm O'Kelly - Leinster back room staff. Degree in maths and was looking at teaching.
John Kelly - Qualified engineer, think he was going back to do accounting though following retirement.
Terry kingston - Coach of Midleton RFC I believe.
Gary halpin - teacher and rugby coach in England

Current players finished in rugby:

Ian dowling - Studying physio
Barry Murphy - UL Bohs player/coach

Funk It

It's more than likely not a full time position, but big Mal O'Kelly writes articles online for joe.ie, as GerM mentioned, most of his time is probably still committed to Leinster.

CatFromHue

I think Peter Coyle is in charge of St. Marys the club team.

Fairly random assortment of ex players there feckincrazy!

razorblunt

Moss Finn owns Finn's Corner sportshop in Cork City - it also does work uniforms i think, been there for ages now.

I heard on RTE during Munster's first HC final that Dominic Crotty works as a teacher in North/South Carolina.

Amazotheamazing

Heard Crotty is making lots of money as a biotech engineer or chemist out in the States.

Isn't Jackman going to work with a french team next season?

Gracelessly Tom

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think Peter Coyle is in charge of St. Marys the club team.

Fairly random assortment of ex players there feckincrazy!

That's Peter Smyth you're thinking of, former Leinster hooker. Peter Coyle was the prop, I believe he's in IT now.

bamboozle

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Heard Crotty is making lots of money as a biotech engineer or chemist out in the States.

Isn't Jackman going to work with a french team next season?

Crotty had a phd and has a big job over in the sates in biotech.

Jackman suggested he wanted to work abroad as his reason for agreeing to part ways with Clontarf, however it would appear he was pushed, dont think he's anything lined up abroad so far.

Eoin Sheriff has gone to Saracens.

godtabh

GerM wrote: »

Malcolm O'Kelly - Leinster back room staff. Degree in maths and was looking at teaching.

I think he is an engineer who is/was retraining to become a teacher as he couldn't get a job as an engineer.

Amazotheamazing

Jackman has a short term stint in Grenoble that might lead to longer term employment as a coach, good luck to him, would be great to see him succeed in a different rugby culture and in the longer term would be good for Irish rugby. If he was pushed I imagine it's in part due to the "telling tales" aspect of his book, lot of cheap shots in it.

http://brendanfanningrugby.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/france-next-step-for-jackman/

durkadurka

I thought mal was looking to get work in medical sales

jayteecork

Brian O'Meara the ex Munster, Leinster, and Ireland (one cap) scrum half is a secondary teacher in Dublin.

Guy:Incognito

Give them a chance , the likes of Mal is barely retired 6 or 7 weeks.:)

CatFromHue

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

That's Peter Smyth you're thinking of, former Leinster hooker. Peter Coyle was the prop, I believe he's in IT now.

ah yeah you're right.

kerrysdad

Big Mal is now a Medical Rep.
Nick Popplewell is an auctioneer.
John O'Neill is an Area Mgr.with Britvic Ireland.
John Kelly is soon to qualify as an accountant.

Most guys have nothing lined up.
IRFU and the Provinces need to be more active in this area.

GerM

kerrysdad wrote: »

Big Mal is now a Medical Rep.
Nick Popplewell is an auctioneer.
John O'Neill is an Area Mgr.with Britvic Ireland.
John Kelly is soon to qualify as an accountant.

Most guys have nothing lined up.
IRFU and the Provinces need to be more active in this area.

They are. The Leinster academy program itself, for example, is now a HETAC level 7 accredited award. I would think most guys do have qualifications before their retirement and have a plan in place. There are a few who don't seem to have much of a plan in place but I think that has changed rapidly through the work of IRUPA which works with the players to ensure they are adequately prepared for the transition to a normal working life. That's one of the main services provided by the IRUPA. The majority of players under the age of 30 now have a good education under their belt. I wouldn't worry too much about players retiring at this point as unless they're forced to retire young they'll have made a decent living for a number of years. If they are actually forced to retire young now, they more than likely will have been furthering their eduation whilst playing. They're in a much better place than the majority of people out there financially.

jayteecork

What are the heavyweights like BOD goign to do?

Hard to see him getting a 9-5. Plus he has enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his days.

Punditry I suppose.

who the fug

What did Jack Clarke end up doing

CatFromHue

jayteecork wrote: »

What are the heavyweights like BOD goign to do?

Hard to see him getting a 9-5. Plus he has enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his days.

Punditry I suppose.

bod is looking into getting a job in a call centre
i believe rog will be opening a casino
poc is working on a business plan for "the fear of god" creches
john hayes will be going back to his heavy metal rock band and/or porno career
stringer is starting to breed and train jack russell attack dogs.

Teferi

kerrysdad wrote: »

Most guys have nothing lined up.
IRFU and the Provinces need to be more active in this area.

The younger lads that are playing now will retire in a decade or so with decent degrees. They'll be fine. The lads retiring now that have no qualifications will fit in somewhere. I wouldn't worry. Being a professional rugby player opens doors.

vinny chase

Teferi wrote: »

The younger lads that are playing now will retire in a decade or so with decent degrees. They'll be fine. The lads retiring now that have no qualifications will fit in somewhere. I wouldn't worry. Being a professional rugby player opens doors.

I think you're right here. A lot of the players are more mindful now that they have to have something to move into when their rugby career ends. A couple of the players like Jamie Heaslip & Rob Kearney have pursued masters degrees, and I think Shane Horgan has done an LLM in the last few years.

durkadurka

Fitz and sexton are doing b comms afaik. Not seeing too much out of Healy other than djing...

I think bod will go into blissful living legend retirement, takin the shilling off sky etc, corporate golf days etc.

Most of the leinster lads seem pretty clued in. From what i know of the munster players they seem to be mostly studying something or other.

ROG is training to be a professional troll ! I'd say he'll make a class pundit.

bamboozle

jayteecork wrote: »

What are the heavyweights like BOD goign to do?

Hard to see him getting a 9-5. Plus he has enough money to live comfortably for the rest of his days.

Punditry I suppose.

BOD is the only guy i can see not needing to work properly again, a bit of punditry for the BBC or Sky will ease the boredom between rounds of golf!

a lot of the first generation of pro rugby players suffered badly at the hands of the property collapse with many owning investment properties which are now in negative equit so will need to be out earning. ROG's name has appeared more than once in stubbs gazette.

heard recently Gary Brown opened up a gym and is studying physio

Emmett Byrne is in year 3 or 4 of medical studies, andy dunne is also studying physio, trev Hogan is studying history in UCD with a view to teaching, more lads have gone into coaching at AIL and schools, Frankie Sheehan is an agent when not making dreadful jokes as a pundit.

justsomebloke

durkadurka wrote: »

ROG is training to be a professional troll

gentle warning here people to be careful about what they say!



However this warning maybe also due to the fact I'm off to cork on a stag in around an hour

durkadurka

Joe the Santa wrote: »

gentle warning here people to be careful about what they say!



However this warning maybe also due to the fact I'm off to cork on a stag in around an hour

I was joking!

justsomebloke

durkadurka wrote: »

I was joking!

I know you are but I'm more worried about the people who won't so I'm just giving a gentle reminder to play nice.

durkadurka

I dont think punditry is much more than a bit of a nixer for all but the very few.

I dont think these guys bet much more than a couple of hundred for doing a match.

GerM

Only the top players will be able to get jobs in the media and make a living off the corporate gigs and after dinner speaking. The majority will have to look into other areas. I don't think any of them will ever be destitute; we can rest easy. As mentioned above, being a professional rugby player opens a lot of doors.

Eoin

I think Victor Costello is now a Ryanair pilot.

durkadurka

He is.

GerM

Eoin wrote: »

I think Victor Costello is now a Ryanair pilot.

He is (or at least was last time I heard) along with doing some punditry. If the rest of us think we have it bad on Ryanair flights...try being a 6'5", 19 stone Olympic shot putter squeezed into that cockpit!

durkadurka

What does Keith Wood do when hes not on the telly?

who the fug

durkadurka wrote: »

What does Keith Wood do when hes not on the telly?

Collect directorships, what he directs one wonders

durkadurka

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

who the fug

durkadurka wrote: »

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

Do a double act in drag with Big Bob Casey

durkadurka

Leo would make one damn ugly chick...

GerM

durkadurka wrote: »

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

Balaclava model.

CatFromHue

durkadurka wrote: »

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

return from his sabbatical from wallace and gromit
:pac:

bamboozle

durkadurka wrote: »

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

isnt he a farmer from Wickla

razorblunt

durkadurka wrote: »

And what is Leo Cullen going to do i wonder?

Rumours around Glenroe is starting back up....well Holy God!

delta_bravo

Anyone know what hickie is doing??

sheff the ref

Interesting topic. Any present day updates on this.

Neil3030

Cullen still a balaclava model.

Yeah_Right

GerM wrote: »

Only the top players will be able to get jobs in the media and make a living off the corporate gigs and after dinner speaking. The majority will have to look into other areas. I don't think any of them will ever be destitute; we can rest easy. As mentioned above, being a professional rugby player opens a lot of doors.

Brent Pope??

Buer

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Brent Pope??

Speaking on behalf of GerM, Pope was a top player in Ireland when he was playing here. He was iconic in the AIL and massively successful as a coach at that level.

Given it was pre-professional times in Irish rugby, generally speaking, players had other careers and weren't involved in the media aspect too much. It was only a few guys who really made the jump into the media at all.

That has exploded in the last decade where we've seen a glut of Irish internationals now involved in the media in one form or another: Hickie, Horgan, Wallace, ROG, Sheehan, Wood, Corrigan, Jackman, Hogan, Quinlan, Duffy, Flannery, Costello, Henderson, Dempsey etc.

Yeah_Right

Fair enough Buer. I just vaguely remember him from his playing days in NZ. As in the name rang a bell and that he played for Otago. Knew nothing of his playing career in Ireland.

jm08

delta_bravo wrote: »

Anyone know what hickie is doing??

His bio (from 2011):

Denis Hickie is Business Development & Relationship Manager with Mainstream Renewable Power, a leading Irish global renewable energy development company. Previously, Denis worked as Development Director for Ireland for Europe during the last Lisbon Treaty Referendum.

Between 1997 and 2007 Denis was a professional rugby player with both Leinster, with whom he played for over 140 times and Ireland, with whom he won 62 Caps, scoring 29 tries. In 2005 he toured New Zealand with The Lions.

Denis is also currently chairman of Show Racism the Red Card, an NGO who combats racist behaviour and promotes integration through the mediums of education and sport. He is also proud to be an ambassador for Climate Adaptation with the NGO Self Help Africa.

jm08

who the fug wrote: »

Collect directorships, what he directs one wonders

Marketing campaigns

Keith Wood is a founding director of W2 Consulting, formally Touchwood PR, which specialises in the area of project evaluation and strategic planning with a sector specialism in sport and facilities development. He has worked with international brands such as O2, Nike, Diageo, Royal Bank of Scotland and Rabobank in the area of sponsorship planning and marketing implementation.

The former Ireland rugby captain Keith Wood is to be appointed chairman of the first Healthy Ireland Council at a function in Dublin Castle.

sheff the ref

Easy talk about media gigs, but realistically unless you are well cemented and well established in a position with a TV station, will the vast majority make much cash from the media?