pre-workout products not working for me

mufcboy1999

lads can anyone tell me why the likes of jacked 3d and nos pump dont work for me? im currently looking for a good pre-workout supplement and im not having any luck.

forked out 30 odd quid for jacked after reading some great reviews but also the fact it was recommended by a few mates of mine which claim to get a great pump of it before the gym and sport related training, iv also tried nos pump and that also has had 0 effect on me.

i dont drink fizzy drinks,coffee or other high caffeine products and my diet is very clean so i actually taught id be very sensitive to these pre-workout supplements but no im the exact opposite, is my body just immune or does it just have a very high tolerance to these pre workout drinks...

any feedback appreciated it.

xgtdec

I think its pot luck with pws to be honest, i can only take one a week to feel a minimal effect, so now i just dont bother...cup of coffee before the gym, i know its a little bit dissapointing when ya take the stuff and get nothing....but for better pumps ya could do the unthinkable and add some weight:D

mufcboy1999

xgtdec wrote: »

I think its pot luck with pws to be honest, i can only take one a week to feel a minimal effect, so now i just dont bother...cup of coffee before the gym, i know its a little bit dissapointing when ya take the stuff and get nothing....but for better pumps ya could do the unthinkable and add some weight:D

ye it has to be doesnt it. I just want to feel this pump feeling that everyone raves on about when taking these pws, iv seen a few of mates on these things and they clearly work for them they are very wirey after taking them aswell as not really wanting to leave the gym .

my training is good, i train moderate weight/high reps as i play a lot of sports so i dont want to get to big, currently 72 kg plan on maintaing that weight but i just need a boost sometimes as its hard going training 5 nights a week, looks my search will continue for a pws that works for me:mad:.

PokeHerKing

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

xgtdec wrote: »

I think its pot luck with pws to be honest, i can only take one a week to feel a minimal effect, so now i just dont bother...cup of coffee before the gym, i know its a little bit dissapointing when ya take the stuff and get nothing....but for better pumps ya could do the unthinkable and add some weight:D

ye it has to be doesnt it. I just want to feel this pump feeling that everyone raves on about when taking these pws, iv seen a few of mates on these things and they clearly work for them they are very wirey after taking them aswell as not really wanting to leave the gym .

my training is good, i train moderate weight/high reps as i play a lot of sports so i dont want to get to big, currently 72 kg plan on maintaing that weight but i just need a boost sometimes as its hard going training 5 nights a week, looks my search will continue for a pws that works for me:mad:.

I'm 80kg and 5-9" and I'm far from big! unless ur 5 foot 72kg is a long way away from being "BIG". I can't imagine any sport you play not benefiting from some extra pounds of lean muscle!

If your feeling tired/lackin energy in the gym just eat more before you go!

BlastedGlute

I don't recommend any pre workout supplements for anyone who isn't training heavy weights session with a sight to bodybuilding. The difference between energy products being ,good diet and plenty of water up to an hour before training. Or pump products , 5 nights a week of heavy weights, training to failure etc. Also you will only get a "pump" if you have something there to pump in the first place.


Jack3d is a bodybuilding supplement for intensive weight training. You might be better off looking at Viper from maxi muscle as a kind of cardio/energy supplement for longevity in your training. I've never used it but that seems to be it's target Market, where as jack3d is targeted at bodybuilders looking for 1 more rep. Or at least that's the concept I think. Maybe someone else can explain better as I've been awake all night thanks to noxplode....

mufcboy1999

PokeHerKing wrote: »

I'm 80kg and 5-9" and I'm far from big! unless ur 5 foot 72kg is a long way away from being "BIG". I can't imagine any sport you play not benefiting from some extra pounds of lean muscle!

If your feeling tired/lackin energy in the gym just eat more before you go!

im 5'11 and im coming in at 72 kg as of today, i was 65 kg before i started a bulk program in the middle of may when the season was over so i have put on a small bit of size but 72kg-75 kg its an ideal weight for me in my opinion. Without floating me own boat im very toned and well defined and pride myself in my speed and agility aswell as strength for my weight, im not trying to get big at the moment so there's no point in eating more than i need i take in enough calories my diet is sound, its just fatigue sometimes after i finish work im bolloxed so this is why im looking for a pws that works for me.

I don't recommend any pre workout supplements for anyone who isn't training heavy weights session with a sight to bodybuilding. The difference between energy products being ,good diet and plenty of water up to an hour before training. Or pump products , 5 nights a week of heavy weights, training to failure etc. Also you will only get a "pump" if you have something there to pump in the first place.


Jack3d is a bodybuilding supplement for intensive weight training. You might be better off looking at Viper from maxi muscle as a kind of cardio/energy supplement for longevity in your training. I've never used it but that seems to be it's target Market, where as jack3d is targeted at bodybuilders looking for 1 more rep. Or at least that's the concept I think. Maybe someone else can explain better as I've been awake all night thanks to noxplode....

ye i know what your saying, but this is it i know people on jacked etc who train with me and they seem to get the full effects even if it is muscular endurance and cardio work that we train for, nos pump did work for me the first time i ever took it and i also coudnt sleep i felt a huge high and wirey feeling but after that iv tried it on 2 more occasions with no luck aswell as trying jacked lately with no luck aswell.

i know a few people who would use jacked for interval training and they claim its great but ye i understand where your coming from with the whole concept thing but arnt they all just full of caffeine really so i dont know how viper could be too much different also i know a lot of people who say stay away from maximuscle products altogether as they arnt great?, but i would be willing to give it a try can you get it in sachets rather than a tub just to try it? last thing i want to do is fork out 20-30 odd quid for something that doesnt work for me like jacked.

cheers for the help lads

dumbbell

wow .. I found jack 3D to be great .. after my 7th 8th time I found I got nothing from it but a few days off and a half scoop extra i was flying again

tried the noXplode .. didnt like it .. was extremly jittery.

Parsley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YsGJz3j4os

at 1:30, you could try Zyzz's advice :pac:

BlastedGlute

Hahahaha who the **** is this guy? xD

silverwex

1) don't go near any Maxi muscle products - massively overpriced stuff.

2) Ive tried a number of PWOs in recent months (been training for 7 years so decided I should give them a try):

Jack3d - Good but you tend to become intolerant to it quite soon

White Flood - The people's favourite. Always gave me some sort of hit but also made me quite tired (possibly because it was the GABA in it). Saying that, this stuff gets rave reviews.

Hemo Rage - Like Jack3d but WAY stronger. DONT TAKE THIS IF YOU ARE GOING OUT LATER IN THE EVENING/IX WITH ALCOHOL. Gets you very aggressive and makes you do silly things... Good PWO though.

Pre-Surge Unleashed - Meant to be a cut above all the rest. Found it quite the same as Jack3d but a little stronger. Good.

Cellucor C4 - A new one on the market. Meant to be great and Im gonna try this next before giving up on these supps for a bit.

Jarren

I only use one stimulant preworkout- black coffee+small bowl of oats= it works for me always

Gummy Panda

BlastedGlute wrote: »

I don't recommend any pre workout supplements for anyone who isn't training heavy weights session with a sight to bodybuilding. The difference between energy products being ,good diet and plenty of water up to an hour before training. Or pump products , 5 nights a week of heavy weights, training to failure etc. Also you will only get a "pump" if you have something there to pump in the first place.


Jack3d is a bodybuilding supplement for intensive weight training. You might be better off looking at Viper from maxi muscle as a kind of cardio/energy supplement for longevity in your training. I've never used it but that seems to be it's target Market, where as jack3d is targeted at bodybuilders looking for 1 more rep. Or at least that's the concept I think. Maybe someone else can explain better as I've been awake all night thanks to noxplode....

You reminded me of a vid I saw on YouTube. Some skinny kid with his personal instructor talking before they start their workout. The kid whips out a tub of NO Xplode and Jack3d (he carries whole tubs in his bag for some reason). He takes 1 serving of each and mixes them in shaker cup with a can of red bull. :eek:

jugger0

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Hahahaha who the **** is this guy? xD

Son of zeus, king of aesthetics... ZYzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

TimeToShine

BlastedGlute wrote: »

Hahahaha who the **** is this guy? xD

notsureifsrs

d-gal

silverwex wrote: »

Cellucor C4 - A new one on the market. Meant to be great and Im gonna try this next before giving up on these supps for a bit.

you won't be disappointed with this one, they purposely brought it out to combat jack3d (which is much if im honest). Highly concentrated and great buzz from it.
1MR is supposed to be very good as well, starting to sell really well around Ireland

Gummy Panda

d-gal wrote: »

silverwex wrote: »

Cellucor C4 - A new one on the market. Meant to be great and Im gonna try this next before giving up on these supps for a bit.

you won't be disappointed with this one, they purposely brought it out to combat jack3d (which is much if im honest). Highly concentrated and great buzz from it.
1MR is supposed to be very good as well, starting to sell really well around Ireland

Can you even get cellucor products in Ireland? Never seen anywhere stock it

ltdslipdiff

I stopped taking Dorian Yates NOX Pump, I found myself paranoid and emotional in work, which is not good when you kill cows for a living......

Beanmachine

TheZ

I think 1MR is no longer available.

Spunge

I've read so many reports of people who got absolutely nothing from Jack3d. It must just not work with some people. It definitely does something to me, gets me focused and everything but i feel like crap for about 24 hours after i take it. I'll probably only use it if im completely wrecked tired or hungover and need to work out.

Oats and coffee is where its at for me.

mufcboy1999

cheers for the help lads, im going to try something different in the next week anyway and see how i get on some good suggestions above il have to try at last one of them.

jacked and nos pump are of my list though as they dont work for me, by the way that zeus is some clown lol:D.

Esse85

Do you have the pre w/o supps on an empty stomach or when do you consume them?

mufcboy1999

Esse85 wrote: »

Do you have the pre w/o supps on an empty stomach or when do you consume them?

empty stomach mate about 30 mins before exercise.

Esse85

Have you tried increasing the dosage until you hit the sweet spot? 1 scoop might be enough for one guy whereas 3 scoops might be needed for another guy.

Maybe even have it an hour before hand.

I've tried numerous Pre W/O supps myself and all I've experienced was that wirey/jittery effect, both of which could be achieved through a few strong black coffee's at fraction of the cost.

gymsoldier

silverwex wrote: »

DONT TAKE THIS IF YOU ARE GOING OUT LATER IN THE EVENING/IX WITH ALCOHOL. Gets you very aggressive and makes you do silly things

What do you mean "not tonight"?!

silverwex

What do you mean "not tonight"?!

What a coincidence! I was nicknamed 'the hulk' for a while after a certain night out drinking & having taken HEMO RAGE ewarlier in the day.

Once again dont take PWOs if you're going out a few hours later.

PS - 1MR is available. Search the UK sites for it. E.g. Predator Nutrition.

mufcboy1999

Esse85 wrote: »

Have you tried increasing the dosage until you hit the sweet spot? 1 scoop might be enough for one guy whereas 3 scoops might be needed for another guy.

Maybe even have it an hour before hand.

I've tried numerous Pre W/O supps myself and all I've experienced was that wirey/jittery effect, both of which could be achieved through a few strong black coffee's at fraction of the cost.

no not yet mate, iv got a hectic day ahead of tomorrow so i am going to up it to 3 scoops and see how i get on, hopefully il get some boost with it but i will let you know.

ye even if i got a wirey effect id be happy as that's the way i felt when i took nos pump for the 1st time where it actually worked for me and i felt i could go all day in the gym.

Jen000

i had jack3d and i didnt like it plus it tastes horrible then i went and got 1mr which is mentle amazing pump and focus ,headphones on and ur the only one in the gym u just get in and lift hard and heavy ,,ill be getting more 1 mr