Over half on housing list are foreign in Dublin

tiger55

MORE than half of the applicants for council homes in north Dublin are from abroad, new figures show.
It is the first time that there have been more foreign than Irish people on Fingal's social housing list.
"For the first time, more than half those on the waiting list for social housing in Fingal County Council are non-Irish nationals. A third are from outside the EU," Fine Gael's Kieran Dennison said.
The figures were supplied in response to questions from Cllr Dennison.
Lone parents on the list have risen by 28pc to 3,480, he said. This category of applicant now accounts for 43pc of people waiting for council homes.
The number on Fingal's housing list is 8,144, up 22pc on the 6,691 on the list a year ago.


http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/over-half-on-housing-list-are-foreign-2549208.html

tiger55

Maybe sinn fein and their irish for the irish will help sort this out?

Jarren

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056188256

snubbleste

That article is from February and has already been debated on boards.

al28283

tiger55 wrote: »

Maybe sinn fein and their irish for the irish will help sort this out?

Sort what out exactly? Why is this s problem for you?

charlemont

tiger55 wrote: »

Maybe sinn fein and their irish for the irish will help sort this out?

Excuse me, Whats Sinn Fein got to do with this ?


These foreigners are dead right, Better than buying an overpriced house with a milestone over their neck for the 40 years.

Ostrom

Not sure this is a reliable estimate. In Waterford (not sure about Dublin), applying for council housing is a condition of all rent allowance applications. Presumably this also includes short-term unemployed as well as usual long term dependents.

mikemac

It's not a useful stat OP

To apply for rent allowance you have to join the housing list. There are thousands on the housing list who will never get a council house and know this.
But they still get added so it's a headline grabbing statistics

edit:elfa has the same ^^^^

The real story here is the incredible waste on rent allowance, might be welfare for tenants but it's welfare for landlords too.
Over €900 a month for a small family in Dublin. Couples have to compete with this
Low paid workers looking for room shares and bedsits compete with people on rent allowance.

It should be slashed and rent will adjust!

Ostrom

mikemac wrote: »

It's not a useful stat OP

To apply for rent allowance you have to join the housing list. There are thousands on the housing list who will never get a council house and know this.
But they still get added so it's a headline grabbing statistics

edit:elfa has the same ^^^^

The real story here is the incredible waste on rent allowance, might be welfare for tenants but it's welfare for landlords too.
Over €900 a month for a small family in Dublin. Couples have to compete with this
Low paid workers looking for room shares and bedsits compete with people on rent allowance.

It should be slashed and rent will adjust!

I've been curous about this (as I fit the profile and will be looking for a room in Dublin soon). Are there any studies or stats examing the rental market at this level?

ejmaztec

charlemont wrote: »

Excuse me, Whats Sinn Fein got to do with this ?


These foreigners are dead right, Better than buying an overpriced house with a milestone over their neck for the 40 years.

A millstone would be better.

charlemont

ejmaztec wrote: »

A millstone would be better.

Yup, My mistake Boss.

Lawrence1895

charlemont wrote: »

Excuse me, Whats Sinn Fein got to do with this ?


These foreigners are dead right, Better than buying an overpriced house with a milestone over their neck for the 40 years.

It is not mentioned if they apply for rented accommodation, does it?

RainbowRose81

tiger55 wrote: »

MORE than half of the applicants for council homes in north Dublin are from abroad, new figures show.
It is the first time that there have been more foreign than Irish people on Fingal's social housing list.
"For the first time, more than half those on the waiting list for social housing in Fingal County Council are non-Irish nationals. A third are from outside the EU," Fine Gael's Kieran Dennison said.
The figures were supplied in response to questions from Cllr Dennison.
Lone parents on the list have risen by 28pc to 3,480, he said. This category of applicant now accounts for 43pc of people waiting for council homes.
The number on Fingal's housing list is 8,144, up 22pc on the 6,691 on the list a year ago.


http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/over-half-on-housing-list-are-foreign-2549208.html

Well, what do you expect. I am not surprised sure our government allows asylum seekers and romany gypsies in to the country; without meeting their needs such as education, training and employment so they can contribute to our society instead of depending on welfare. Many of them are not educated. Many of them would be eastern european/polish who came here to work and have settled here but lost their job and want to live here.

RichieC

dirk a herr

Lawrence1895

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well, what do you expect. I am not surprised sure our government allows asylum seekers and romany gypsies in to the country; without meeting their needs such as education, training and employment so they can contribute to our society instead of depending on welfare. Many of them are not educated. Many of them would be eastern european/polish who came here to work and have settled here but lost their job and want to live here.

Well, I would like to exclude people from Poland, they are from a different EU member state and they won't look for Asylum status

Monty Burnz

Based on this and some other posts elsewhere, it's pretty apparent that Tiger55 doesn't like dem furriners. Seems to have quite the bee in the bonnet.

Monty Burnz

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well, what do you expect. I am not surprised sure our government allows asylum seekers and romany gypsies in to the country; without meeting their needs such as education, training and employment so they can contribute to our society instead of depending on welfare. Many of them are not educated. Many of them would be eastern european/polish who came here to work and have settled here but lost their job and want to live here.

Well, let's not pretend the gypsies are crying out for education so that they can become doctors etc. - they are legally obliged to send their kids to school, but prefer to use them in begging and so forth instead. It's their culture, doncha know.

As for the rest of your post, I agree.

Monty Burnz

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Seems to have quite the bee in the bonnet.

Wait, let me guess. It's a spelling bee, but not a syntax bee.

Would the 50% on the housing list who are foreign in Dublin be native in Kildare, Cork or Galway?

Just asking.

(and before anyone asks, I'd rather be a grammar nazi than a political one)

Richard Hillman

Would rather live beside Johnny Foreigner than Johnny Player Blue

Nodin

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Based on this and some other posts elsewhere, it's pretty apparent that Tiger55 doesn't like dem furriners. Seems to have quite the bee in the bonnet.

.....the white pointy bonnet at that.

Mance Rayder

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Many of them are not educated. Many of them would be eastern european/polish who came here to work and have settled here but lost their job and want to live here.

??? Polish/Eastern Europeans tend to have degrees as a min standard of education. Far from uneducated.

By the way you cannot lump Gypsies and Eastern Europeans together!

Gypsies are , by virtue, uneducated.

Mance Rayder

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Would rather live beside Johnny Foreigner than Johnny Player Blue

Officially the funniest iv'e seen today :):)

Herb Powell

OH FUUCK, IMMIGRANTS, END OF THE WORLD AND SOCIETY!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtLjyRq2waY

Mance Rayder

I wonder how many Irish emigrants are on housing lists in USA, UK and Australia....

Monty Burnz

CiscoStudent wrote: »

I wonder how many Irish emigrants are on housing lists in USA, UK and Australia....

Ah - there's a flaw in your logic there: Irish people aren't furriners.

wandatowell

Down with foreigners

Mance Rayder

What is a foreigner these days?

As far as I can tell, Ozzys,Americans,Brits,Canadians and South Africans etc are known in Ireland as... Ozzys,Americans,Brits,Canadians and South Africans etc!

All other nations are foreigners. To an Irish person it seems, a French person is a foreigner, but a Canadian is not. It's a language thing I Believe.

Also Eastern Europeans appear to be from a country called Eastern Europe, the official language is Eastern European. I think its somewhere between Germany and China.

I think Arabs are from a country called United Arab Immigrant or something like that.

Mance Rayder

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Ah - there's a flaw in your logic there: Irish people aren't furriners.

Ah sorry I seem to have confused Emigrants with Immigrants.

RainbowRose81

CiscoStudent wrote: »

??? Polish/Eastern Europeans tend to have degrees as a min standard of education. Far from uneducated.

By the way you cannot lump Gypsies and Eastern Europeans together!

Gypsies are , by virtue, uneducated.

Well I was talking about many of the asylum seekers and the romany gypsies. If most of the polish and eastern europeans here are educated then why are many are claiming welfare here? If i was educated to degree level and I came to a country to work ; if I was let go or lost my job, I would find another job and if I couldn't I would go to another country to look for work.

Mance Rayder

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

If most of the polish and eastern europeans here are educated then why are many are claiming welfare here?

They came here on the promise of jobs, they worked here untill they were laid off and now the ecomonys dried up, there are no jobs and they are claiming social welfare which as tax payers they are entitled to. I'm sure it's true of the vast majority of them.

Lab_Mouse

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Based on this and some other posts elsewhere, it's pretty apparent that TigerSS doesn't like dem furriners. Seems to have quite the bee in the bonnet.

FYP

Lawrence1895

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Ah - there's a flaw in your logic there: Irish people aren't furriners.

Everybody is a foreigner, he just has to leave his home country...for what reason ever

And as far as I know, many workers from Poland worked in Construction, which was one of the first areas giving workers the sack.

RainbowRose81

CiscoStudent wrote: »

They came here on the promise of jobs, they worked here untill they were laid off and now the ecomonys dried up, there are no jobs and they are claiming social welfare which as tax payers they are entitled to. I'm sure it's true of the vast majority of them.

Well I know but that is why graduates are leaving here because there are no jobs. Social welfare is primarily for people who are on low-incomes or who are socially/physically disadvantaged or are on the margins.

If you have a good qualification and are let go from your job because of the recession that's the way how it is and the way how it's going, many Irish people are leaving because they cannot find work here. When I get my degree finished I am leaving too because I know I can find work in another country where workers are needed.

Lawrence1895

Where did I read, that the number of Non Irish nationals claiming for Social Welfare Payments went down by 35%?

Anyway, I guess there will be loads of people leaving the country in the near future and not all of them will be Irish nationals.

Herb Powell

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well I know but that is why graduates are leaving here because there are no jobs. Social welfare is primarily for people who are on low-incomes or who are socially/physically disadvantaged or are on the margins.

If you have a good qualification and are let go from your job because of the recession that's the way how it is and the way how it's going, many Irish people are leaving because they cannot find work here. When I get my degree finished I am leaving too because I know I can find work in another country where workers are needed.

Wait, what?

Monty Burnz

Lars1916 wrote: »

Everybody is a foreigner, he just has to leave his home country...

I'll level with you: that was a lame attempt at irony on my part.

Super-Rush

jarecki1976 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056188256

This.



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