Deftones Appreciation Thread.............

frag420

Deftones.................where to start.

They have been with me through thick and thin, the good times and the bad. They have made me smile, made me cry, made me grin, made me frown....................but have always been there. I have turned many people onto them and I feel like I am doing them a good turn by making them aware of how good this band are. I will always remember the time one of my best friends and yrs of me going on about Deftones turned to me one night when we were out on the session and said to me "dude, I get it now". I was like "you get what" and he replied " Everything you have said for years about Deftones I now get. They are unreal". That made my night!!

Ever since hearing the opening to their debut self titles album in 96 when I was but a fat spotty teenager is the middle of the Nu Metal thang but I knew there was something different about these guys. What set them apart was the lack of angst, self pity and selfishness as shown by other bands such as Korn et all. I used to have a discman and would go out playing footy with my mates with my discman in my pocket listening to the first album..............the was no anti-skip on it so it was held in the pocket with my hand. Not great when your in goals............

There was a certain intelligence to the lyrics, something poetic that was unconventional in its set up but complimented the music and vice versa with the off-kilter drumming from Abe, the crunching bass from Chi ( still thinking about ya bro), the heavy and yet melodic riffs from Steph and the shneaky samples from Frank all tied together with the vocals of Chino. The sum of the parts made up something amazing, something lasting and out of this world.

The way the band have progressed their sound from Around the Fur to White Pony to Deftones and up to the most recent release Diamond Eyes which blew me away is phenomenal. Here is a band that pushed the envelope and cant be pigeonholed. I love how every album has those heavy as fook tracks, those middle of the road metal tracks and those songs that sound amazing when sat on the beach watching a sunset while the waves crash in front of you. I love how they make a love song so heavy yet beautiful...................

This band stirs so many emotions over the course of one album, more so that any other band I have ever listened too. Should I ever find someone dumb enough to marry me Deftones will be played, at my funeral Deftones will be played.............

I have been lucky enough to see them live from their first Irish gig in the SFX in 98 up to their two gigs in the ambassador in 06 and I hope to see them again some day.

There is so much more I can say about this band but I want to hear from others here..........

DEFTONES TILL I DIE!!

Passenger

I have to say that they are one of the few bands that have stuck with me since my teenage years and a band that I still have a lot of time for. I still find something new in their music whenever I listen to it. They also have a knack of writing music that constantly rewards the listener on repeat listens.

What impresses me the most about them is that every album is different to the previous and their discography somehow manages to maintain a continual growth for the band both as songwriters and musicians. They are one of the most unformulaic bands in Rock/Metal and the consistancy of their output is virtually unrivalled in the Rock/Metal world. There's an elegance in their sound, it's heavy, mercurial and the production of their albums is always impeccable. And saying that, I have to say that Diamond Eyes is arguably their most cohesive and consistant album to date too.

What they lack in technical proficiancy as musicians they more then make up for in thoughtful and sometimes cerebral songwriting.

I'm not sure if the band themselves are conscious of the quality of their output, if it's just natural or if they're constantly banging their heads together to do something unique with every album. They always stay within the ambit of what they're about, ie. they have a particular sound and they explore the boundaries of that sound without being self-indulgent or placating the record company by pandering to any particular crowd. Maybe it's testament to that fact that they are a band that is difficult to pigeonhole.

I'm happy to see others with a similar appreciation of a genuinely unique band and I always look forward to their releases and I will continue to do so in the future.

MickShamrock

One of my favourite bands. Around The Fur is in my top 10 fave albums.

ColeTrain

Great band, one of my favourites.

Sort have a 'cool story bro' too. I was browsing in a music store in Castlebar years ago. I came across their self-titled album ( 2003 ) and decided to buy it. Anyways, I went up to pay for it and the shop keeper told me an interesting story. He said the guitarist Stephen Carpenter was in a couple of hours earlier with his family, he spotted the record and got a great kick out of seeing his album in a little store in the west of Ireland - he even took a picture of it! Anyways the album I bought was the very one he picked up

frag420

When I picked up the first album in 96 I had a voucher for a record store in the next town. I knew what I was buying with it and when the folks went there to do their shopping I fecked of to pick up the CD.

Mother thought it a waste of a voucher until she realised it was only redeemable in the record store and I was hardly going to by an Iron Maiden T-shirt in there(they had loads of Iron Maiden t****s in there at the time)

Needless to say it was a choice buy and one I have never looked back on....................

On a side note would your preference be the heavy fast stuff such as 7words, rocket skates etc or the middle of the road stuff like Kimdracula, Sex tape, fireal etc or maybe the experimental samply stuff??

I must say I have a place for them all and I like how I can diversify between them all...........

frAg

Patricide

My all time favourite band ever. They have heavy songs, they have light songs, they even have stuff thats going out in the trip hop direction but you can always instantly recognise it as Deftones.

The funny thing is I hated them for years, I just didn't get why people would listen to them and thought they sounded bland and "whiney". Then one night I was listening to change(in the house of flies) and it all just clicked. It was honestly as if I was blind before but could now see. Deftones honestly changed my life for the better!

jenizzle

Definitely one of my favourite bands of all time, but a newcomer all the same as I only fell properly in love after seeing them in Manchester last year. I'm going to Amsterdam in a few weeks to see them again though, and I cannot frikkin' wait!

Their albums are ones I don't think I could ever delete from my phone no matter how short of space I am...

Malice

White Pony, Adrenaline and Around the Fur are fantastic albums in my opinion that get regular play time from me but I've never been able to get into much of their other stuff. It's not that it's necessarily bad, it just doesn't grab me like those three albums.

Acacia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLvLcioo86Y

The first Deftones song I ever heard , and I absolutely fell in love, even though a lot of people think it's too nu-metal or commercial. I must be in the minority who prefers it to "Pink Maggit", but it's probably cause I heard ''Back to School" first.

Deftones are amazing and hold nothing but good memories for me of when I first got into metal. I got into them around the same time as Slipknot, Korn, Linkin Park, etc, but even back then they seemed a bit more sophisticated for want of a better word than the rest of those bands. They've definetely stood the test of time better than the others anyway and I still listen to them out of genuine love rather than nostalgia. I'll always regret not buying a ticket in time for their gig in the ambassador in 06 as I was told it was unreal.

"White Pony" is one of those albums you can play from start to finish without skipping a song, which is the sign of a classic, imo.

Stretchryan

White Pony is my fav album of theirs - up there with Angel Dust for my fav album of all time. Amazing music and build many layers of sound.

Go to see them at Pukkelpop and Rock En Seine at the end of August cant wait....

120_Minutes

They peaked at white pony, but parts of self titled were good.

Malice

Acacia wrote: »

The first Deftones song I ever heard , and I absolutely fell in love, even though a lot of people think it's too nu-metal or commercial. I must be in the minority who prefers it to "Pink Maggit", but it's probably cause I heard ''Back to School" first.

Funnily enough I picked up White Pony only having heard that song back in 2001. I remember being quite annoyed when the one song I wanted to hear actually wasn't on the album . Mind you, I proceeded to listen to it on repeat on a bus journey from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco and was properly able to appreciate the album for the masterpiece that it is.

Acacia wrote:

"White Pony" is one of those albums you can play from start to finish without skipping a song, which is the sign of a classic, imo.

Personally I nearly always skip the last two minutes of Pink Maggit and I've never really liked Teenager, Street Carp or RX Queen. The rest of the album more than makes up for them though.

apollo82

deftones was one of the reason to learn English those years . there are so many amazing songs ...(personally i rather the two first albums) but in 2003 when i was listening one of the new tracks in that year i stuck in one (when girls telephone boys) i didnt know what to think ha ha it just was rare but in the following minutes hours days it became in one of my fav songs .....

Sephiroth_dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEVik1nJb68

LH Pathe

Would show some appreciation but I'm tone Def

Sephiroth_dude

I love there first 3 albums,found it hard to get into there other ones at first but they grew on me :-)

calex71

I'm more a pick and mix man when it comes to deftones, loving tracks form all the albums and not liking some on all of them too, my favourite album is actually Detones, love Hexagram and Needles and Pins, and Cherry Waves from Saturday night wrist.

Going older, stuff like engine #9, 7 words, change, passenger, be quiet and drive.

Agree with the OP their drive and constant pushing of the envelope always keeps them fresh imo.

"You're pins i'm needles lets play!!!! "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye-frzA7N0E

Deftones are one of the defining bands of my youth and as such I'll always love them. As far as I'm concerned every generation has a defining album, for my Dad's it would be Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon and for me it's White Pony. It's a perfect album with a song for every mood and one which stands up to this day. Think I may go dig out my vinyl and give it a listen.

frag420

Just watched this over my lunch break and made we realise how much I want to see these guys again and esp outdoors for the first time!!

xerces

frag420 wrote: »

Just watched this over my lunch break and made we realise how much I want to see these guys again and esp outdoors for the first time!!

I'm still waiting to see Deftones for the first time.

With ticket and all bought for the gig here in 2006, I had to work :-(

frag420

Saw them both nights in 06. Two great gigs. The second night they seemed to relax a bit more...

xerces

koth posted this in the 'Now Listening To...' thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMfXhKryV4

A previously unreleased music video for Be Quiet And Drive (Far Away) (Acoustic).

Mushy

Never really listened to them before seeing them in 2011. They were class. Roll on August to see em again.

frag420

Mushy wrote: »

Never really listened to them before seeing them in 2011. They were class. Roll on August to see em again.

Where?

Passenger

One of the few bands that have a consistently high quality discography. Every album is a little different to the previous and they pretty much have a sound of their own. You certainly couldn't accuse them of being formulaic or generic.

Mushy

frag420 wrote: »

Where?

Rock im Pott in Gelsenkirchen.

frag420

Mushy wrote: »

Rock im Pott in Gelsenkirchen.

I may have to check that out...

Mushy

€95 for main standing ticket, 5 bands I really wanna see. Its win-win.

PickledLime

Back in my (musically) formative days, I was the one purchasing those Iron Maiden t-shirts and leaving the Deftones albums on the shelf . I dismissed them out of hand as nu-metal with one decent song (namely 'Be Quiet And Drive').

I recently (as in about 6 months ago) heard that Steven Carpenter's fave album is Meshuggah's 'Chaosphere' (incidentally my least favourite Meshuggah album) and figured that the Deftones have had longevity and this lad is big into one of my favourite bands, perhaps there's something in his playing that I didn't appreciate then.

Lo and behold, a couple of days after picking up White Pony and I was completely sucked in by the subtle textures and dissonance in his playing, Chino's mighty set of pipes (which call to my mind The Cure's Robert Smith more than anyone else!) and a rhythm section that can kick you in the arse (and after years of binging on death metal it was nice to hear a drum kit get pummelled without double bass pedals).

Personal favourites time! - Mein, Be Quiet and Drive, Minerva, Korea, Around The Fur and that kick ass cover of Duran Duran's The Chaufer. Also, as a big videogame nerd, any band that names a song after the Konami Code is alright with me

frag420

Aboy Duck!!

Useful.Idiot

will always always come back to Deftones, their musical textures can be so chilling and haunting.

Koi No Yokan is absolutely astounding, completely towers over Diamond Eyes!

Passenger

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

will always always come back to Deftones, their musical textures can be so chilling and haunting.

Koi No Yokan is absolutely astounding, completely towers over Diamond Eyes!

Diamond Eyes was probably my favourite album after Around The Fur and White Pony. I thought it was superb. Koi No Yokan is arguably a little more balanced in the songwriting though.

Reiketsu

Chi Cheng has passed away . His mother has wrote about it on the "One Love For Chi" website. Terrible news, RIP.

frag420

Just seen this. I am genuinly upset to hear th

frag420

Just seen this. I am genuinly upset to hear this.

Godspeed Chi!!

Passenger

Reiketsu wrote: »

Chi Cheng has passed away . His mother has wrote about it on the "One Love For Chi" website. Terrible news, RIP.

Ah this is awful news. Just had to double check it online and it appears to be confirmed.

RIP

Chi was one of the bass players that influenced a younger me to take up the bass guitar. I always hoped he would pull through and return to the band but it is not to be. Very sad news for his family and fans. Though the band continue, the music that he created while with them will live on for generations.

Links234

RIP Chi Cheng

Frank Bullitt

Sleep easy, Chi.

MetalDog

RIP Chi.

happyoutscan

RIP

Useful.Idiot

RIP Chi \m/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkiW5boHKmk

Nailz

Lived a tough existence these last 4 or 5 years, tragic. Was a huge part of one of the biggest bands in the Alternative Metal scene of the last 17 years. His poor mother had to go through a lot since the accident too, not to mention...

My thoughts and condolences are with his family, friends and band members.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9AbNy-3kP8

Chi Cheng 1970 - 2013

seachto7

RIP. Must have been tough the last few years with Chi drifting in and out of it all.

Sugarlumps

Sad news indeed.

Catari Jaguar

So sad. Always meant to go see them live, never got around to it.

dcr22B

Catari Jaguar wrote: »

So sad. Always meant to go see them live, never got around to it.

Their 1998 SFX gig was/is in my top 5 gigs ever.

frag420

dcr22B wrote: »

Their 1998 SFX gig was/is in my top 5 gigs ever.

Awesome gig!! Was my first time seeing them. Was in front of Chi the whole gig apart from a brief chat with a kerrang journo!! Fond memories!

xerces

This was sad news indeed, RIP Chi Cheng.

Another reminder, if we needed one, to always wear your seatbelt.

LuckyFinigan

Didn't know if it was worth starting up a new thread or not. Chinos other side project Palms which features members of Isis are releasing their album at the end of June. They put out two songs off it. I was kind of expecting something a lot heavier. Sounds similar to some of the mellower songs on diamond eyes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErF3TWgJ_fo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZntL_JEyz4

xerces

Yes, Palms is one of the few albums I have pre-ordered this year, and I posted about it in the 'New releases...' thread.

I'm always interested in projects with Chino Moreno's involvement because his voice never fails to add an absorbing and haunting aesthetic to the music. Isis have an unfaltering discography, with Oceanic and Panopticon up there as two examples of great modern metal albums. I'm keen to see how Isis' atmosphere blends with Chino's sense of melody.

I've listened to Patagonia and it's not what I expected, but in a good way. I think Jeff Caxide (Bassist) describes it well when he says it's more in the vein of pop music than anything they've ever done. I think everything I hear and see about this album, down to the cover itself, tells me that it'll be my soundtrack to the summer .

frag420

https://twitter.com/deftones?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor


Deftones are back in Dublin next May 6/7!!

frAg