Appetite After a Workout

az2wp0sye65487

Hi, I was hoping someone here could guide me in the right direction. I was reading an article a while (months) back where the topic was weight loss and different types of activity.

I think it was trying to challenge the general consensus that swimming is not as good for weight loss as say running. I don't remember many details, but I think there was reference to a scientific study where 2 groups of people were put on an exercise programme - 1 group swimming and 1 group running. While both groups burned the same amount of calories & fat etc. The group that swam didn't lose as much weight as the group that ran. The reason given for this though was that after a workout the group of swimmers were much more hungry than the runners, and therefore ate a lot more.

I'd appreciate if anyone could point me in the right direction. I've been searching for more info but haven't come up with much yet. I'd also like to get other opinions on it!

Cheers!

AntiVirus

I've heard of this before where they found that outdoor swimming did not efficiently result in weight loss because activity in cold water triggers a hunger reponse resulting in excessive eating after the swim. Cold and hunger would be a good place to start searching.

Anway how can you say swimming burns the same amount of calories as running. If you were to jump up and down in the same spot you could say it burns the same amount of calories as swimming?

d'Oracle

AntiVirus wrote: »

activity in cold water triggers a hunger reponse resulting in excessive eating after the swim. Cold and hunger would be a good place to start searching.

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You could, like, not eat to excess after swimming.

howtomake

Can't help you with finding the research but I know I'm always marvin after I swim. Even when I was younger, I would come out from swimming and be shaking with hunger.

az2wp0sye65487

AntiVirus wrote: »

I've heard of this before where they found that outdoor swimming did not efficiently result in weight loss because activity in cold water triggers a hunger reponse resulting in excessive eating after the swim. Cold and hunger would be a good place to start searching.

Anway how can you say swimming burns the same amount of calories as running. If you were to jump up and down in the same spot you could say it burns the same amount of calories as swimming?

I'm not saying that. I was just trying to recall what I vaguely remember being written in the article.

d'Oracle wrote: »

You could, like, not eat to excess after swimming.

Easier said than done!

howtomake wrote: »

Can't help you with finding the research but I know I'm always marvin after I swim. Even when I was younger, I would come out from swimming and be shaking with hunger.

Same as myself!

AntiVirus

d'Oracle wrote: »

You could, like, not eat to excess after swimming.

The OP is looking for reasons why swimmers where more hungry than runners. You solution would not make them less hungry

AntiVirus

This may help you to google some names:

"Scientists have long suspected that swimming in cold water increases the appetite compared to exercise like jogging or cycling, which makes one feel hot and sweaty after. Some studies have also found that swimming is not as effective for weight loss as land-based exercise.

Jaci Van Heest, exercise physiologist of the United States Swimming Association, has stated that although elite swimmers and runners burn approximately the same calories while training, top swimmers have 3 to 5 percent more body fat than top runners do.

In a study published this year, researchers at the University of Florida have confirmed that there is indeed a connection between cold-water exercise and appetite.

They compared the energy used and the calories consumed after riding a stationary bike submerged in cold water (68 degrees F) and warm water (91.4 degrees). The participants burned 517 calories in cold water and consumed 877 calories after. When they exercised in warm water, they burned 505 calories and consumed 608 calories after."


http://www.tinajuanfitness.info/articles/082205.htm

howtomake

Thanks AntiVirus, good thing I don't use swimming for weight loss, the Irish seas are not exactly warm. Doesn't uncontrollable, teeth shattering shivering burn some calories;)

AntiVirus

howtomake wrote: »

Thanks AntiVirus, good thing I don't use swimming for weight loss, the Irish seas are not exactly warm. Doesn't uncontrollable, teeth shattering shivering burn some calories;)

Maybe that explains the 505 versus 517 calories burned in the test above!

az2wp0sye65487

howtomake wrote: »

Thanks AntiVirus, good thing I don't use swimming for weight loss, the Irish seas are not exactly warm. Doesn't uncontrollable, teeth shattering shivering burn some calories;)

I'm planning on a 10k tomorrow, followed by a quick swim in the sea straight afterwards - I'm gonna be LEPPIN by the time I get home!

Mellor

AntiVirus wrote: »

Anway how can you say swimming burns the same amount of calories as running. If you were to jump up and down in the same spot you could say it burns the same amount of calories as swimming?

Because they didn't quantify it with a time.
It didn't say they exercised for the same time, only burned the same levels.

If they were using the general population, I would assume that their workouts were longer in order to reach the workout benchmark level.

If they were using the elite of each, i imagien the were at a very similar level



In terms of the general population, swimming isn't good for weight loss because most people aren't very good at it. They haven't got the technical ability to burn the energy.
But even the most sedantry person, knows how to run. THey might not be very fit, but they'll still get their heart rate up calories burning.



But as the studies above show even the elite carry more body fat. Cold water appears to be a factor in eating more.
I don't know if this is the reason or even related, but training in water, specifically cold water causes your BMR to increase, which would probably increase your appetite.
The initial reaction to this is likely to be - "Shouldn't increased BMR mean more fat is burned". But that's true if its constantly raised, here we are talking about it being raised while you train. Once you hits the target energy burned, you get out, BMR returns but appetite increase remains.

az2wp0sye65487

Mellor wrote: »

Because they didn't quantify it with a time.
It didn't say they exercised for the same time, only burned the same levels.

If they were using the general population, I would assume that their workouts were longer in order to reach the workout benchmark level.

If they were using the elite of each, i imagien the were at a very similar level

I don't have the details, I was just trying to give some info on what I might have read.

Mellor wrote: »

In terms of the general population, swimming isn't good for weight loss because most people aren't very good at it. They haven't got the technical ability to burn the energy.
But even the most sedantry person, knows how to run. THey might not be very fit, but they'll still get their heart rate up calories burning.



But as the studies above show even the elite carry more body fat. Cold water appears to be a factor in eating more.
I don't know if this is the reason or even related, but training in water, specifically cold water causes your BMR to increase, which would probably increase your appetite.
The initial reaction to this is likely to be - "Shouldn't increased BMR mean more fat is burned". But that's true if its constantly raised, here we are talking about it being raised while you train. Once you hits the target energy burned, you get out, BMR returns but appetite increase remains.

Interesting - thanks for the info!

howtomake

How did your 10k (zzzz, sorry long runs make me sleepy) plus swim go? Goan, tell us what you ate:p

Since calories burned doesn't count anyway, I'm going to try some swimming intervals tonight in the pool, plus some pool snorkies.