Cityjet Avionic Apprenticeship

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Advertised today in the sunday independent

Jim236

http://www.cityjet.com/about-us/careers/apprentice-engineers-ad.shtml

clown2brown

Looking at their website:

To apply, please forward your C.V. by 23rd July 2010 to:

So this was last year was it:rolleyes:

Jim236

clown2brown wrote: »

Looking at their website:

So this was last year was it:rolleyes:

My bad, didn't even spot that.

Has anyone got a picture of the sindo ad in that case?

D

They had a half page spread in the irish times today. Cv in by the 23rd July

yvonne.reilly@cityjet.com

Yvonne Reilly,
Cityjet,
Swords Business Campus,
Balheary Road,
Swords,
Co. Dublin.

cityjet.com/careers

stephenk123

i have applied for this does anybody have any info on this apprenticeship?
thanks
stephen

hano

Do you know how many vacancies are up for grabs?

David086

Can anyone tell me the difference between an Avionic Apprenticeship and an Engineering Apprenticeship?

aviteire

David086 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me the difference between an Avionic Apprenticeship and an Engineering Apprenticeship?

To be able fix an aircraft, you need to have a licence from the aviation authority of what ever country you do your time & apprenticeship in. In this case it will be the irish aviation authority (IAA).

There are 2 main types of aircraft engineer licence that you can get. (There are others but dont worry about them now, ie, A, C.

To be an "Avionics Engineer", you need to have wants known as a B2 Licence.

To be an "Airframes & Powerplant Engineer", you need to have wants known as a B1 Licence.

Cityjet are offering a 4 year B2 apprenticeship (also known as an avionics apprenticeship).
During the 4 years, you will spend time in the hanger doing all sorts of odds and ends and you will learn how to fix all the aircrafts electronics, cockpick, instruments etc etc. You wont really deal with the engines or sheet metal work as it is not a B1 apprenticeship.

After your 4 years is up, you should hopefully be kept on with cityjet as a "Mechanic".

To get your B2 licence issued by the IAA, you need to have 5 years experience (You will get 4 from your apprenticeship, so you need to work another year as a mechanic), during your apprenticeship you will also have to sit and pass about 12 or 13 exams (I forget how many), some are easy, some are hard.
After 5 years, and the IAA post you your B2 licence you can call yourself an "Aircraft Engineer".

Final note, Once you do get your B2 licence, you will need to do a course on the type of aircraft in which you will work on, lets say for example you where working for Ryanair, they operate the Boeing 737, so you would need to do a couple week course to say you have the knowledge to fix this plane, you then get whats called a TYPE RATING issued in your B2 licence and then you start making LOADZ of money

David086

Cheers for that, in regard to level which is easier?

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aviteire wrote: »

After 5 years, and the IAA post you your B2 licence you can call yourself an "Aircraft Engineer".

Just dont forget the 93 Euro initial application fee as this is paramount to application and issue :D:D

aviteire

David086 wrote: »

Cheers for that, in regard to level which is easier?

If you wonder and have an interest in electronics, then you will be best suited to the avionics world.

If however, your happier getting down and dirty, then airframes and powerplant will be best suited for you!!!

Dont worry about the cityjet ad, it says avionics apprenticeship but in reality, you can do the B1 exams aswell and get your B1 issued alongside your B2 so you will be dual rated.

Really, they should have advertised it as an aircraft engineer apprenticeship. I have freinds that got on it, some where let go when there apprenticeship ended, some where kept on as mechanics and went on to get the B1 or B2 issued and are now certifying engineers.

lifehacker

This seems like an amazing opportunity for anyone who is interested in getting a foot in the door in an exciting industry! Does anyone know of potential earnings/ salary after the 4/5 years?

hano

was asked to an assesment. any idea as to what to expect?

brotherrabbit

I recon its the numeric reasoning, logic and dyexterity tests

thejohn0512

anybody know a good place on the web where I could practice these sort of tests? cheers.

lifehacker

Ye the aptitude test is at the end of july, wouldn't say it will be crazy hard. They wouldn't put difficult maths on this test as most applicants will have no engineer or aviation experience. In regard to preparing for the big day check out the Ryanair and Aer Lingus apprenticeship threads

Maxed-irl

28 July at ALSAA

brotherrabbit

Roll on the 28!!!

Sterling Archer

I don't know if i should go for this or not.. the last apprenticeship they ran, i got to the interview stage, i thought i did quite well, they said the'd contact me.. then nothing

thejohn0512

ah sure you should probably apply anyway shane, see what happens. what was the aptitude test like? did ya have to do a dexterity test?

brotherrabbit

go again!

Hi 5

Is everyone who is attending ALSAA on 28th scheduled in for 5.30pm???
2.5hr of testing at that time for someone living down the country aint ideal ....IMO

tu2j2

Hi 5 wrote: »

Is everyone who is attending ALSAA on 28th scheduled in for 5.30pm???
2.5hr of testing at that time for someone living down the country aint ideal ....IMO

Ya 5:30 for me too.

brotherrabbit

2pm....Role on thursday! ! ! !

fizzles

Only those that have submitted their cvs and replied to the confirmation email will be accommodated on the day. Don't just turn up out of the blue
as each slot can only hold so many people. Closing date is today 23rd July. Good luck to everyone on the 28th!

Darius.Tr

I replied to the email, letting them know that i'll be able to atetnd the aptitude test...should i have received any email from them saying that they got my reply?

fizzles

No, it's sufficient once you have replied to confirm your attendance.

thejohn0512

anyone have an idea how many positions they have available?

Hi 5

thejohn0512 wrote: »

anyone have an idea how many positions they have available?

afraid not...and anyone know what kind of package they offer; duration, salary etc.!?!

stephenk123

Hi 5 wrote: »

afraid not...and anyone know what kind of package they offer; duration, salary etc.!?!

i emailed them there i will let you know what they tell me.

stephenk123

this is what i sent them
how are things i was just wondering do ye have any specific info, like a brochure on the apprenticeship ie where you are based for the four years and the work you will do and the pay.
thanks
stephen


this is what i got back
Hi Stephen,

The test will be mainly based on mathematical, numerical and logical reasoning. Pay etc will be discussed at interview stage.

Best regards

Yvonne

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pay etc should be on the fas website!!! shannon for 9/10 months,then the cityjet hangar/line for 2nd year,then dit bolton street for some of 3rd and 4th yr i think mixed with hangar/line

brotherrabbit

can we take log tables or wil they be povided or will we be flying solo ?

Darius.Tr

brotherrabbit wrote: »

can we take log tables or wil they be povided or will we be flying solo ?

Ill probably take the log tables, in case they will allow us to us the,... anything else we should take?
Ohh and is AlSAA hard to find? as im not originaly from Dublin...and never really been there.

brotherrabbit

its actually grand..google maps ! mim coming from the north of the republic so its handy

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brotherrabbit wrote: »

can we take log tables or wil they be povided or will we be flying solo ?

Flying solo i would think,i doubt the maths will be anywhere near the level of needing logbooks

Hi 5

guessing this 'aptitude test' thing is a first for some!?!
just relax, do your best, walk away & no regrets!!! :rolleyes:
ps. DESIGNED SO YOU STRUGGLE TO FINISH....IF AT ALL! :eek:

lifehacker

This may be a stupid question to some but will there be a practical tomorrow?
Considering the test is on for 2 1/2 hours it came to mind

Sterling Archer

Good luck everyone, see ye tomorrow, oh and dont sit near the window if your easily distracted haha... And relax its ment to TEST you ...

Sterling Archer

lifehacker wrote: »

This may be a stupid question to some but will there be a practical tomorrow?
Considering the test is on for 2 1/2 hours it came to mind

No

thejohn0512

well how did you's find it? i taught it was a lil tricky, especially them shape things.

one4one

Hi, could someone put a link up on Google maps pointing out the ALSAA i can't see it on the old Dublin rd.

Cheers

IrishB.ie

one4one wrote: »

Hi, could someone put a link up on Google maps pointing out the ALSAA i can't see it on the old Dublin rd.

Cheers

Here you go

Link

Darius.Tr

Yeah it took my a while till i got alsaa on my gps

How did you people got on on your aptitude test? I actually thought thta some of the maths questions were kind of hard for me The rest was easy enough...

one4one

Darius.Tr wrote: »

Yeah it took my a while till i got alsaa on my gps

How did you people got on on your aptitude test? I actually thought thta some of the maths questions were kind of hard for me The rest was easy enough...

The maths was tricky in parts .. the rest of the test was easy enough

Did anyone get answering all the questions?

Good turn out. Top 20 will get called back for an interview so everybody should have a good chance.

Darius.Tr

Top 20 from all the groups? or top 20 from each group? Because there were about a hundred people at 2 o'clock.

thejohn0512

i think its just the top 20 overall, and over 300 people applied.

Sterling Archer

Found it good, i love doing those types of test, great at getting the brain working and good crack.
She said top 20 overall...
The maths was the hardest, it always is i find, and yep answered every question..

Hi 5

if one was lucky enough to be in the top 20, whats the competition like after that ~ how many positions?? meant to ask; forgot, drained after tests!!!
all the time based in Dublin??? could be a key factor....

ps found tests fair, quite easy in sections, but time played its part with 2.5hrs and a drive from outside th 'Pale' :cool:

Sterling Archer

I think 6-8 places, interviews next mid august. First 7-8 months in shannon then dub, between the hanger and college...

I would have had to be on the road since 10th to be there safely but left at 9 to put in a bit of spotting before the tests