Leaving Cert Accounting

angela1711

Hello, what you think about this subject ?
I find it a bit boring but not to bad. When you first face with it, it is a bit hard but practice and practice and it become easy
Hoping for A1. I heard that accounting is fairly easy to get an A1 into compare to the other subject because it is very repetitive

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

Hello, what you think about this subject ?
I find it a bit boring but not to bad. When you first face with it, it is a bit hard but practice and practice and it become easy
Hoping for A1. I heard that accounting is fairly easy to get an A1 into compare to the other subject because it is very repetitive

it wasnt very repetitive this year:(
it seems they can just change anything they want
incomplete as a 60 this year?
you cant predict it either

if the stuff comes up you've studied happy days!!!!

But it can go horribly wrong too.

ratios is nice:D

and all management accounting:)

angela1711

I like ratios too
But the Q1 Final Accounts is always the same ? I mean either Trading,P&L, Manuf. Accounts etc ?

Its not a difficult subject if you put a lot of effort in, I myself ended up putting less and less effort in as it went along, so doubt I got an A. Be wary of picking a subject that you may not enjoy.

angela1711

did u get an A on HL paper ? without putting much effort ? than congratulations
but that's probably not the best thing to do
and i agree that not everyone would enjoy acc... i have a friend she hate acc and i can see how she is wasting her time

I said I doubt I got my A and I'm naturally good at it, just didn't put the effort in. It can be hard to put effort into Accounting imo as its very uninteresting

Sunny!!

AdamD wrote: »

I said I doubt I got my A and I'm naturally good at it, just didn't put the effort in. It can be hard to put effort into Accounting imo as its very uninteresting

i find it extremely dull aswell tbh:(

angela1711

doing the questions over and over again, which are all basically the same just the figures changes is very boring...

Sunny!!

like its not the worst, not the best, it kinda went well for me on the day, i wanted the A1, but some thing just put me off:) they have to keep us on our feet though!

angela1711

anyway it's easier to get an A1 in acc than in e.g. home ec or business cause acc do not require nearly any learning just practice

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

anyway it's easier to get an A1 in acc than in e.g. home ec or business cause acc do not require nearly any learning just practice

i totally agree:) trying to get an A1 in business lol i couldnt, but i really thought id get an A1 in acc if you know what i mean, i'd recommend it alright its alot easier than even biology or economics

angela1711

i don't know how is biology or economics because i don't do them but i heard that economics is not so hard
don't scare mi with business because i dropped art and took business instead :P
but teachers advised me to do it, not to be bragging but i'm good at remember things, i can remember half of the book and i have done business in JC so i hope i be okey

Sunny!!

oh sorry business is a grand subject like:D but hard to get an A1 in, like a B1 is really doable. Business is interesting i think just hard to clinch the A1:)

angela1711

i'm catching up over the summer with the staff they have done in 5th year and I find it not too bad to catch up
i actually hoping for an A or B3 but will see how the things will go, my acc teacher said that she can help me with business so it may be no so bad
what topics in acc do you find most hard ? i think depriciation is *hit

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

i'm catching up over the summer with the staff they have done in 5th year and I find it not too bad to catch up
i actually hoping for an A or B3 but will see how the things will go, my acc teacher said that she can help me with business so it may be no so bad
what topics in acc do you find most hard ? i think depriciation is *hit

ah, its well doable in a year, if you can learn the book happy days!!!!

I half learned the book and done very well in every business test:)


As for accounting
- Depreciation is up there on top
- Suspense
- Published:mad: :P

If you struggle with depreciation accounting isn't for you imo

Sunny!!

ive the exam done and all lol, and it didnt come up
i really didnt like it but it didnt matter the 20th june:P

Comes up everywhere..just not on its own

Sunny!!

i found most of the course very doable, are you on about the depreciation in club account,service firm etc lol, not the 60 marker?

angela1711

i mean i hate the depriciation on it's own... i don't mind it in questions like trading,p&l balance sheet etc.

Sunny!!

i know what you mean, just cause you cant do depreciation its own doesnt mean you cant do accounting. Sure its easy in all the rest of the accounts.

angela1711

ye even my teacher said that u shouldn't be worry about depreciation on its own because it doesn't come up every year and there are a lot other questions to do

Sunny!!

if you do the 120 marker theres no worries

angela1711

i have a friend that can't manage depreciation at all even though she is well able to get a B1 and IMO u don't have to manage every account perfectly u just have to know it to certain points and you can get a high grade maybe not an A1 but B

Sunny!!

very true, the most important thing about accounting i would say is not to cut down your options try and learn the whole course.

angela1711

true and than if you know the whole course and can do every account to some point u can than see what are the best accounts for you and work on those to get you grade

I dont mean depreciation on its own..if you can't handle that its not good

Comes up in Q1 + club/service/incomplete/tab etc etc

Sunny!!

and just just because something came up last year doesn't mean it wont come up the following, this was seen last year with cash budgeting, and this year with control accounts. I've learned this year never take predictions for acc:)

angela1711

i didn't say i can't do it at all... i said i don't like it and it's not easy for me but with effort i can do it...

Sunny!!

sorry lol, i meant that as advice to others, you have stated you will do it all and see your best accounts:)

Sunny!!

AdamD wrote: »

I dont mean depreciation on its own..if you can't handle that its not good

Comes up in Q1 + club/service/incomplete/tab etc etc

I dont do q1, and the dep in club, service, incomplete, and tabular is easy, id be very worried if i couldnt do that:)

angela1711

what you think about cash flow ;D ? i think is very easy and for OL is jest unbelievably easy

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

what you think about cash flow ;D ? i think is very easy and for OL is jest unbelievably easy

yes very nice, the only difference really is that you only have to learn the headings for the part B of it, and there more figures but very very doable and one of them sections with very little change:D

angela1711

i have a friend she hadn't done business at all in JC and she took accounting for the LC she is completely lost now but my other friend also hadn't done business in JC and took acc and she is fine... well, not able for an A bout C on HL with an effort possible B1. The first friend is thinking about dropping acc in the day of LC and she doesn't want to take any other subject... she is sure that she don't pass even OL... she asked me what to do and i told her to do OL or drop it and take another subject instead, tbh i think she is able to pass OL but she just don't putt effort in class at all, she is not doing her HW and on the next day she's saying to teacher: "I don't understand it, I tried etc." but I know that she is doing no work. What do u think she should do ? Oh, and she doesn't need points nearly at all... so should she put more effort in acc or give it up and never mind it ?

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

i have a friend she hadn't done business at all in JC and she took accounting for the LC she is completely lost now but my other friend also hadn't done business in JC and took acc and she is fine... well, not able for an A bout C on HL with an effort possible B1. The first friend is thinking about dropping acc in the day of LC and she doesn't want to take any other subject... she is sure that she don't pass even OL... she asked me what to do and i told her to do OL or drop it and take another subject instead, tbh i think she is able to pass OL but she just don't putt effort in class at all, she is not doing her HW and on the next day she's saying to teacher: "I don't understand it, I tried etc." but I know that she is doing no work. What do u think she should do ? Oh, and she doesn't need points nearly at all... so should she put more effort in acc or give it up and never mind it ?

i'd say she should drop, ive a friend kinda like that, never put work in and as youve said in the first post i think, practice is essential for accounting. I think though if she is willing to put work into the ol she be grand, ol isnt difficult. Well you gave her the right advice anyway ol or drop it. I'm not sure about another subject unless the course would be short like ag science or economics, have ye talked about subjects she might take up?

angela1711

i did but the case with her is that she would need a subject that require no effort like acc just practice or something easy, she wouldn't take ag.science for 100 % she was considering economics but it is not available in my school so i guess it will be hard for her to study on her own, not because the subject is hard but because of her small effort and i think that she is not enough motivated to study something on her own...
i think she should do OL acc becuase it's easier than to start a new subject and is easy enough to get an A1 in OL

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

i did but the case with her is that she would need a subject that require no effort like acc just practice or something easy, she wouldn't take ag.science for 100 % she was considering economics but it is not available in my school so i guess it will be hard for her to study on her own, not because the subject is hard but because of her small effort and i think that she is not enough motivated to study something on her own...
i think she should do OL acc becuase it's easier than to start a new subject and is easy enough to get an A1 in OL

yes, what is in the accounting option in yere school is there 2 or 3 other options beside accounting? But yes i believe anyone could get an a in ol, you know 50% of the paper, ratios and cashflow, so thats positive, 60 points is 60 points, and ol doesnt require much practice tbh, it requires practice but not as much as the hl which she would be used to from 5th year:)

angela1711

i know because most of the 5th year we've done OL questions are they were much easier then higher... even when i did homework OL question took me so much less time to get done. Besides acc she could pick business, ag science, biology, geography, chemistry or physics and all that construction studies etc.
from this list she might eventually pick business as she hates geography and doesn't like science subjects

Sunny!!

yes business would maybe the best if shes allowed change, id be against doing science subjects in a year tbh anyway, and ive heard terrible reviews on geog. All the sciences in that option:eek: wish my school was like that:)

angela1711

we have more options like art,home ec etc. but she is already doing those
she would be allowed because i did the same thing... changed art to business after 5th year and now i'm catching up with all the staff they did in 5th year.. i find it not so bad to catch up with business but i enjoy business... i think that she may have difficulties with learning all the material needed in business because she does not posses the ability to learn that much without huge effort if u know what i mean. Do you think is OL business is easier than OL accounting ?

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

we have more options like art,home ec etc. but she is already doing those
she would be allowed because i did the same thing... changed art to business after 5th year and now i'm catching up with all the staff they did in 5th year.. i find it not so bad to catch up with business but i enjoy business... i think that she may have difficulties with learning all the material needed in business because she does not posses the ability to learn that much without huge effort if u know what i mean. Do you think is OL business is easier than OL accounting ?

oh yes, you were on the other thread, tbh no, ol acc is was easier and less effort.

angela1711

that's what i think too
i think that OL acc is the best option because it will be the easiest thing to do, catching up in everything else will be harder

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

that's what i think too
i think that OL acc is the best option because it will be the easiest thing to do, catching up in everything else will be harder

like if i put effort in i could get the acc ol done in about two weeks, business ol it could take months :L

angela1711

there is a lot of information in business i mean like the book is not hard to understand and is grand but you have to know really a lot i suppose.... i wouldn't be changing such a subject like acc to something harder... practice is the keay +we have only like 6 people in acc class so teacher is able to explain everything very well

Sunny!!

business is nice like, but if i was in your friends position id run a mile from it and stay in ol acc. Because in business theres not really a distinction between the content in hl and ol. Its the questions are asked differently in both papers. If you want an A1 in hl bus or an A1 in ol business you still have to learn around the same quantity of material

angela1711

i believe is true, it seem to be same as with home ec.. even if u do OL you have too know pretty much the same stuff as HL

Sunny!!

if i compare the amount of time i spent on acc to business there was a huge difference. Not in terms of difficulty. In terms of workload. I'm just lucky i found business interesting

angela1711

i find LC business much more interesting then JC business

Sunny!!

by a mile i hated jc business dunno why, but lc business really goes into the business the background behind it, and of course it applies to our everyday lifes so we benefit studying it:D

angela1711

yes JC business was too much mixture between acc and business... and I haven't study at all for my JC business... I think the course is to boring and JC students don't mind to learn that much of information however for LC everyone is more mature and begin to study... well that's what people should do

Sunny!!

angela1711 wrote: »

yes JC business was too much mixture between acc and business... and I haven't study at all for my JC business... I think the course is to boring and JC students don't mind to learn that much of information however for LC everyone is more mature and begin to study... well that's what people should do

I find lc Acc and business easier than jc I know that might be a bit weird :L I hated the ledgers in the short questions swell and the paper 2 frightened me