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Would you consider this progress?

  • 08-07-2011 3:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭


    It's about 2 months since I switched from isolation machines to dumbbell/bodyweight excercises. I'm trying to figure out whether I'm progressing well but am finding it difficult. I feel like I've progressed but, in certain cases, the numbers suggest I'm not progressing enough. What do you think? (I don't do all excercises in every session).


    These are the excercises that I used to do which were all isolation machines - all 3 * 8:

    Leg Extension: 70KG
    Leg Curl: 65KG
    Leg Press: 140KG

    Chest Press: 50KG
    Machine Fly: 45KG
    Shoulder Press: 30KG
    Back Extension: 75KG
    Seated Row: 45KG
    Biceps Curl: 21KG

    Abs Machine: 55KG
    Triceps Push Down: 65KG
    Lat Pulldown: 60KG

    This is what I now do in the gym (mostly 3 * 10):

    Dumbbell Squat: 40KG
    Dumbbell Deadlift: 56KG

    Dumbbell Bench Press: 26KG * 2 = 48KG
    Dumbbell Shoulder Press: 14KG * 2 = 28KG
    Overhead Dumbbell Swing: 32KG
    One Arm Row: 26KG

    Dumbbell Renegade Row: 26KG
    Dumbbell Shrugs: 72KG

    Hanging Shrug: 3 * 12
    Hanging Leg Raise: 3 * 12
    Dips 6 sets of 7 at 76KG bodyweight
    Chins 6 sets of 4 at 76KG bodyweight


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    marathonic wrote: »
    It's about 2 months since I switched from isolation machines to dumbbell/bodyweight excercises.

    This is what I now do in the gym (mostly 3 * 10):

    Dumbbell Squat: 40KG
    Dumbbell Deadlift: 56KG
    Dumbbell Bench Press: 26KG * 2 = 48KG
    Dumbbell Shoulder Press: 14KG * 2 = 28KG
    Overhead Dumbbell Swing: 32KG
    One Arm Row: 26KG
    Dumbbell Renegade Row: 26KG
    Dumbbell Shrugs: 72KG
    Hanging Shrug: 3 * 12
    Hanging Leg Raise: 3 * 12
    Dips 6 sets of 7 at 76KG bodyweight
    Chins 6 sets of 4 at 76KG bodyweight

    Hey, I know SFA, and I'm not being clever but...if you started the free weights 2 months ago at the same numbers as posted above then you've not progressed.

    If you started at lower numbers and upped the weight progressively and have arrived at those above then... you've progressed!

    Personally I'd forget about your 'machine' period and just concentrate on your 'now and onwards' period.

    Edit; If you've those machines handy in the same gym why not rip around them at those weights, see how they feel? I reckon you could be surprised. In a good way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Your numbers have progressed as they're almost similar to the machine lifts but free weighted.

    why don't you use a barbell for deadlifts and squats if you have access to a gym?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭marathonic


    Your numbers have progressed as they're almost similar to the machine lifts but free weighted.

    why don't you use a barbell for deadlifts and squats if you have access to a gym?

    Thanks TimeToShine.

    I don't use a barbell as my gym only has smith machines or dumbbells.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Scuba Ste


    Absolutely no way to compare the two. Machine weights will vary from machine to machine, never mind machine to free weights.

    If you've increased to what your at now then you've made progress. What does your log tell you? Seems like you've progressed to me.

    A bit strange that your one arm row and renegade rows are the same though. Is that right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭marathonic


    Scuba Ste wrote: »
    Absolutely no way to compare the two. Machine weights will vary from machine to machine, never mind machine to free weights.

    If you've increased to what your at now then you've made progress. What does your log tell you? Seems like you've progressed to me.

    A bit strange that your one arm row and renegade rows are the same though. Is that right?

    At the moment, yeah. But I think the one arm row will progress quicker from here than the renegade row. The renegade row completely wrecks me at the moment.

    Edit: I've looked at form guides and I'm doing the renegade row wrong. Time to drop back 25% and do them right :-(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭Reggy


    I don't use a barbell as my gym only has smith machines or dumbbells.

    @marathonic, thats like the 3rd post ive seen you say that this week, it must seriously get on your t1ts?! Do you think it seriously limits the types of training you can do? I'd be lost without barbells! I think you need to consider finding a new gym!? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭marathonic


    Reggy wrote: »
    @marathonic, thats like the 3rd post ive seen you say that this week, it must seriously get on your t1ts?! Do you think it seriously limits the types of training you can do? I'd be lost without barbells! I think you need to consider finding a new gym!? :D

    Totally 100% agree with everything you're saying. At the moment, I'm using the largest dumbbell for my squat and am close to using them for my shrugs. Where to go from there, I do not know.

    My gym membership expires in September so it'll be hunting time then - or perhaps time to buy a Power Rack, Bench and Olympic Weights set :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Westcoast Thugs


    marathonic wrote: »
    Totally 100% agree with everything you're saying. At the moment, I'm using the largest dumbbell for my squat and am close to using them for my shrugs. Where to go from there, I do not know.

    My gym membership expires in September so it'll be hunting time then - or perhaps time to buy a Power Rack, Bench and Olympic Weights set :D

    you cant go wrong with that i would recommend irish lifting thats where i got my rack and 2 bars got a dope deal too, you should price around now and buy so you be ready when your membership expires check out Donedeal too its great site for second hand stuff


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