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Jasus I Couldnt Live there with all them "Africans"

  • 06-07-2011 4:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭


    I live in a certain area that has quite a few people who would be of African Decent. Now in the last 2 months between tradesmen and people i know . I have heard the following comments

    "Jasus how do you live out here with all them blacks"
    "That place is like Nicaragua now"
    "You live in _____ thats like little Africa"
    " I used to live there too but i had to move because the Africans were taking the place over"

    Why do so many people have a problem with Africans living in there estate / area? They dont actually bother me or do anything.
    In fact I would be more concerned about the local Scumbags!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    "That place is like Nicaragua now"

    Geography fail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Aren't we all of African descent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    A large percentage of Irish people are racist. They like to pretend they aren't but they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    But nothing is really said about Polish..... Asians ,,,,, Indians..... The Big Bogey man seems to be the AFRICANS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    ronan45 wrote: »
    Why do so many people have a problem with Africans living in there estate / area?

    Probably because they're racist.

    Or else there's some really intricate socio-economic reason that I don't understand.

    I think it's most likely the racism thing though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I hear this a fair bit too. I'm never sure what's worse, that they think that way, or that they expect me to join in. Many an awkward moment when I say STFU jive-talking honkie bítch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    IBTL :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭ronan45


    I hear this a fair bit too. I'm never sure what's worse, that they think that way, or that they expect me to join in. Many an awkward moment when I say STFU jive-talking honkie bítch.

    And the BIGGEST joke ... the Very people who made these comments are actually from some of the roughest parts of Dublin, I would NEVER even consider living in from fear. Mystifying!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    As long as i don't have travellers living next to me or in the field over the road then i am happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    They're more visibly distinguishable so you notice them and thus it can look like they're the vast majority of immigrants.

    You could pass a dozen Poles on the street and not take heed but you'd notice one African.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    ronan45 wrote: »
    But nothing is really said about Polish..... Asians ,,,,, Indians..... The Big Bogey man seems to be the AFRICANS

    The Blacks and the Romanians, as far as it came to my attention :(

    Anyway, it's not always racism, sometimes it's just Xenophobia and the fact, that we are prone to blame ethnic minorities in times of a recession


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    I get the same, OP.
    I live in Balbriggan and it is really sad that there are so many Irish people who speak in such an insulting and racist way about people who have moved to Ireland for a better life.
    I wonder is it just easier to insult African people cos they stand out more for being different, (skin colour, traditional African clothes, culture, religion etc.).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    My last day of work, I was sitting on the top level of the #43 bus leaving Swords Business Park. A middle aged man got on the bus and sat down on the seat right across the aisle from me. I saw him looking at me and then looking out the window, but I was thinking that he must be looking at all of the bags that I was carrying or trying to read what was written on my jacket.

    I then began to notice him looking at Black people specifically. He then says very loudly with his face looking out the window: "N*ggers everywhere!"

    I turned to glare at him but he didn't turn towards me again until it was his time to get off the bus. I looked directly at him and he looked directly at me, biting down on his lip with a look of disapproval. I just grinned and told him to have a good day.

    I found the whole incident ironic because my second day in Ireland, I encountered young lads throwing rocks at me and telling me to go back to Africa, and here I was sitting on the bus, the day before I was supposed to depart to go back to the States, and this fine older gentleman shows his ass.

    I think there is a superficial facade hiding the fact that there is a significant portion of Irish society that holds negative feelings towards Blacks and Asians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom



    I think there is a superficial facade hiding the fact that there is a significant portion of Irish society that holds negative feelings towards Blacks and Asians.

    Wrong.



    I don't mind Asians.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Rawhead


    Black man walks into a bar with a parrot on his head,

    Barman asks " where did you get that thing"?






































    Parrot says " Tyrrelstown, we got millions of them out there"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    The Blacks and the Romanians, as far as it came to my attention :(

    Anyway, it's not always racism, sometimes it's just Xenophobia and the fact, that we are prone to blame ethnic minorities in times of a recession

    Just for curiousity, you couldn't outline your distinction between those three ideas there, could you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    'de problemm Joe is dat de non nashunalss don't mix or bodder to integrate wid de rest uv us'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    WindSock wrote: »
    'de problemm Joe is dat de non nashunalss don't mix or bodder to integrate wid de rest uv us'

    Cork people are fierce difficult to accept outsiders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Just for curiousity, you couldn't outline your distinction between those three ideas there, could you?

    Xenophobia = Being afraid of something foreign/unknown, but still being able to accept it somehow

    Racism = Not being able to accept someone with a foreign origin

    Blaming minorities for a recession = Has originally nothing to do with the other two, but can be caused by it in times of hardship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭amjon.



    I think there is a superficial facade hiding the fact that there is a significant portion of Irish society that holds negative feelings towards Blacks and Asians.


    That is a vague, baseless statement . Have you got any significant evidence to back up your insulting and outrageous claims other than your anecdotal reports? Tell me, did you find the States to be your panacea? I have heard anecdotal reports that there is a significant lack of racism and racial profiling there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭The Internet Explorer


    I hate racism but there is no but to this sentance, because like I said, I hate racism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    amjon. wrote: »
    That is a vague, baseless statement . Have you got any significant evidence to back up your insulting and outrageous claims other than your anecdotal reports? Tell me did you find the States to be your panacea? I have heard anecdotal reports that there is a significant lack of racism and racial profiling there.

    Sounds like something a Jew would say...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    Xenophobia = Being afraid of something foreign/unknown, but still being able to accept it somehow

    Racism = Not being able to accept someone with a foreign origin

    Blaming minorities for a recession = Has originally nothing to do with the other two, but can be caused by it in times of hardship

    Cheers. Was just curious. Not sure I'd agree with your distinctions myself, but there you go.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 garbold


    i have nothing against blacks, i reckon every house should have one,lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I think there is a superficial facade hiding the fact that there is a significant portion of Irish society that holds negative feelings towards Blacks and Asians.
    An American calling Irish society racist?


    Pot, meet kettle.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 garbold


    come on lets get for real here, blacks especially have a major chip on their shoulder, be honest would we feel safe walking down a street in africa full of blacks? not a chance, they are the racist ones if the truth be known


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    Kasabian wrote: »
    A large percentage of Irish people are racist. They like to pretend they aren't but they are.

    I think a lot dont realise it though either, especially older generations.

    Thats not me defending them in any way, just pointing it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    garbold wrote: »
    come on lets get for real here, blacks especially have a major chip on their shoulder, be honest would we feel safe walking down a street in africa full of blacks? not a chance, they are the racist ones if the truth be known

    Yes, very safe thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    jasus, this thread is flushing 'em out like a spaniel in a thickett.:) So, tell us more, why exactly don't you like the coloured folk Mr Klunt??:D Personally, we moved to London when I was young, school was half black, half irish, and I'm not sure which half the Brits hated more! Cured me of "the rascism" fairly quick as it happened, cos the blacks and the Irish ended up hanging together. Some of my best mates were Black:D(good auld cliche, ya gotta laugh) Does this make me a bad person Mr Klunt??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    amjon. wrote: »
    That is a vague, baseless statement . Have you got any significant evidence to back up your insulting and outrageous claims other than your anecdotal reports? Tell me, did you find the States to be your panacea? I have heard anecdotal reports that there is a significant lack of racism and racial profiling there.

    I'm a sociology student in a race and ethnicity course based in Ireland; many members in my department are presently conducting research on racism in Irish society. They are looking at racism experienced by taxi drivers, the availability of social welfare programs, and the inner workings of hiring practices here in Ireland. My statements are based upon what they have uncovered through their interviews and other methods and what I have read and observed through my own research.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    I'm a sociology student in a race and ethnicity course based in Ireland; many members in my department are presently conducting research on racism in Irish society.

    They are looking at racism experienced by taxi drivers,

    Bad start.
    Everybody hates Taxi drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    garbold wrote: »
    come on lets get for real here, blacks especially have a major chip on their shoulder, be honest would we feel safe walking down a street in africa full of blacks? not a chance, they are the racist ones if the truth be known

    No words can describe the stupidity of that post..

    ..except them ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭sparks24


    ronan45 wrote: »
    I live in a certain area that has quite a few people who would be of African Decent. Now in the last 2 months between tradesmen and people i know . I have heard the following comments

    "Jasus how do you live out here with all them blacks"
    "That place is like Nicaragua now"
    "You live in _____ thats like little Africa"
    " I used to live there too but i had to move because the Africans were taking the place over"

    Why do so many people have a problem with Africans living in there estate / area? They dont actually bother me or do anything.
    In fact I would be more concerned about the local Scumbags!

    not everybody in a hi-visibility jacket is a tradesman or a racist

    what exactly are you qualified to do? are they not some racists in your profession if you even have one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Craebear


    I'm not racist, my best suit is black.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 garbold


    scammers the lot of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    mikom wrote: »
    Bad start.
    Everybody hates Taxi drivers.

    I should clarify. The racism Black taxi drivers experience from people seeking rides and other non-Black taxi drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I should clarify. The racism Black taxi drivers experience from people seeking rides and other non-Black taxi drivers.

    If ya can't see 'em, don't trust 'em.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 garbold


    would all these do gooders feel the same , if their daughter came home one night with one of them spooks under their arm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    An American calling Irish society racist?

    Pot, meet kettle.

    So just because someone comes from a racist society doesn't mean they can't recognize it elsewhere? That's ridiculous.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    I've found Africans to be more racist than Irish people, but that's ok I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    hey mods , get the yellow and red cards out, and lock this shiit thread,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭The Saint


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Sounds like something a Jew would say...
    I really hope you're being sarcastic with that comment.
    garbold wrote: »
    come on lets get for real here, blacks especially have a major chip on their shoulder, be honest would we feel safe walking down a street in africa full of blacks? not a chance, they are the racist ones if the truth be known
    Yes, very safe thanks.

    Yes I would feel comfortable walking down a street with black people in africa, same as i would feel safe walking down a street in the Middle East without thinking that I'm going to be blown up and I would feel safe about walking down a street filled with Jews without worrying that they'll steal all my shekels. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    hey mods , get the yellow and red cards out, and lock this shiit thread,

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭problemchimp


    garbold wrote: »
    would all these do gooders feel the same , if their daughter came home one night with one of them spooks under their arm?
    Tell me, how would you feel if one of those "spooks" as you call them was a doctor and sewed back on your daughters arm? get a life son!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    So just because someone comes from a racist society doesn't mean they can't recognize it elsewhere? That's ridiculous.
    No, but saying that a significant portion of Irish society is racist is quite the generalisation for someone who comes from America where racism was and still continues to be in certain parts to be quite a big problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    The Saint wrote: »
    I really hope you're being sarcastic with that comment.

    Am I wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    ronan45 wrote: »
    Why do so many people have a problem with Africans living in there estate / area? They dont actually bother me or do anything.

    Lazy cunts. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Imho its be worse living next to scumbags, travellers or Roma gypsies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    I'm a little racist. Don't care who knows it tbh at least i don't hide behind the fact like most people.


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