Passing on the new VAT rate

kayaksurfbum

Anyone been to any cafes or restaurants that have passed on the Vat decrease?

I suspect that most wont pass it on.

abouttobebanned

Espresso are anyway....saw a sign in there yesterday.

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With the weekend that was in it, it was very difficult for places to get everything in order in time. Most places will probably be okay tomorrow. Deals (such as Wine and Dine, and early birds) will remain the same price as they're part of a promotion. Pain in the hole getting menus reprinted too.

Psychedelic

Bodega are passing on the reduction. I'm sure most places will do it as it's a good way for them to advertise and attract customers by showing off their reduced prices.

It's not just restaurants either. Hairdressers, cinema, hotels rooms, loads more, full list here: http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/rate-changes-jobs-initiative.html

wellboytoo

Mc Donalds are as well

dayshah

Psychedelic wrote: »

It's not just restaurants either. Hairdressers, cinema, hotels rooms, loads more, full list here: http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vat/rates/rate-changes-jobs-initiative.html

Has Storm?

abouttobebanned

Has it fcuk.

(i love that expression)

libra02

dayshah wrote: »

Has Storm?

Nope and I am going to say it to them when I go to cinema next week.

I bet the excuse will be oh we reduced the prices by 20% already. They have not prices have always been €9.80 after 5pm and €7.80 before. All they are doing is advertising the €7.80 price as a new reduction - by saying 20% discount on tickets before 5pm. To me I would read it as 20% off the €7.80 and a load of other people I know also thought that at first.

I know they have a new prices for movies before 1pm but very rarely do they have movies on at that time. Mostly kids films.

I like Storm cinema and generally have no problem with them but I will now if they do not pass on the VAT.

dayshah

libra02 wrote: »

Nope and I am going to say it to them when I go to cinema next week.

I bet the excuse will be oh we reduced the prices by 20% already. They have not prices have always been €9.80 after 5pm and €7.80 before. All they are doing is advertising the €7.80 price as a new reduction - by saying 20% discount on tickets before 5pm. To me I would read it as 20% off the €7.80 and a load of other people I know also thought that at first.

I know they have a new prices for movies before 1pm but very rarely do they have movies on at that time. Mostly kids films.

I like Storm cinema and generally have no problem with them but I will now if they do not pass on the VAT.

That's bad form. Anyway unless you have kids, or are a paedo, who really goes to the cinema before 1?

mikeym

Didn't think the vat reduction applied to cinemas?

giles lynchwood

centra on the quay are

Psychedelic

mikeym wrote: »

Didn't think the vat reduction applied to cinemas?

Check the link above.

Supplies of goods and services at the new 9% rate:

• the supply of food and drink (excluding alcohol and soft drinks) in the course of catering or by means of a vending machine (See footnote 1)
• hot take-away food and hot drinks
• hotel lettings, including guesthouses, caravan parks, camping sites etc
• admissions to cinemas, theatres, certain musical performances, museums, art gallery exhibitions
• amusement services of the kind normally supplied in fairgrounds or amusement park services
• the provision of facilities for taking part in sporting activities by a person other than a non-profit making organisation
• printed matter e.g. newspapers, brochures, leaflets, programmes, maps, catalogues, printed music (excluding books)
• hairdressing services (Note: beauty treatments:- for example, facials, massages, nail treatments, tanning or sunbed services etc., remain liable at the 13.5% rate).

smaoifs

Can't see the vending machine guy that supplies my job reducing his prices. He's already selling us crisps for 70c with "part of a muti-pack, not for sale separately" on the back.

dayshah

the supply of food and drink (excluding alcohol and soft drinks)

Erm, so I wonder which drinks are covered? Juice and water, or are they soft drinks?

Chiparus

KFC did not seem to have

Aquos76

Nor have Domino's or Pizza Hut.

DjBryn

Its only a 4 1/2% reduction on services Spend a ton save 4.50 brill

Aquos76

DjBryn wrote: »

Its only a 4 1/2% reduction on services Spend a ton save 4.50 brill

So your quite happy for the retailers to pocket an extra 4 1/2% profit from you so. All these extra 4 1/2% wouldnt be long about adding up.

The facts of the matter here are, if VAT was increased by a percent or two it would be passed on immediately, therefore a reduction should work on the same basis.

Sully

Assume there is nothing that can be done about this?

MitchKoobski

libra02 wrote: »

Nope and I am going to say it to them when I go to cinema next week.

I bet the excuse will be oh we reduced the prices by 20% already. They have not prices have always been €9.80 after 5pm and €7.80 before. All they are doing is advertising the €7.80 price as a new reduction - by saying 20% discount on tickets before 5pm. To me I would read it as 20% off the €7.80 and a load of other people I know also thought that at first.

I know they have a new prices for movies before 1pm but very rarely do they have movies on at that time. Mostly kids films.

I like Storm cinema and generally have no problem with them but I will now if they do not pass on the VAT.

dayshah wrote: »

That's bad form. Anyway unless you have kids, or are a paedo, who really goes to the cinema before 1?

*Raises Hand*
I usually like to get in an early showing of the new release before work. I'm fairly sure I'm not a paedo....

If they don't reduce the ticket prices, I can actually understand it. They don't set the prices, the film companies/head office do. The cost of the popcorn deal in there atm though, are a ****ing disgrace even before the new rate. I made them aware of my opinion when I went in and the two lads behind the counter agreed, but there was notihng they could do.

MitchKoobski

If it's a locally run shop, bring it up with them.

But for the love of god, DO NOT go in shouting the head off to some poor boy/girl behind the counter because the head office of their company hasn't reduced the price.

Minstrel27

Sully wrote: »

Assume there is nothing that can be done about this?

Of course there is. Boycott the thieving swines.

dayshah

@ Mitch
okeydokey
But Storm has no excuse (though I accept its set by head office). The distributors may set a price to sell, but they don't set the VAT rate.

Sully wrote: »

Assume there is nothing that can be done about this?

Yep, name and shame. I hope this thread gets picked up by our buddies in the local papers.

Cabaal

dayshah wrote: »

@ Mitch
okeydokey
But Storm has no excuse (though I accept its set by head office).

In that case its worth e-mailing them perhaps
http://www.stormcinemas.ie/contact

Sully

Subway haven't passed on the rate yet

hardybuck

Might be awkward for brands which have a specific and convenient price, and one which they may have invested funds marketing.

The Eurosaver menu in McDonald's springs to mind. Will the €2 burger now be €1.91 or whatever?

noby

hardybuck wrote: »

Might be awkward for brands which have a specific and convenient price, and one which they may have invested funds marketing.

The Eurosaver menu in McDonald's springs to mind. Will the €2 burger now be €1.91 or whatever?

Local McD's has passed on the savings. I imagine eurosaver menus are deals and they don't necessarily have to pass that on.

DjBryn

Are the parking charges included, councils pass them off as services...

Ive asked 3 times so far and have been given BS responses about using the extra take for more hires etc.

Its nonsense, the vat reduction has nothing to do with the costs of goods and shouldn't be treated as such. The reduction should automatically pass on.

No one is doing it, the Govt will just put it back up - wait and see.

wellboytoo

I used to drink a large Cino in the coffee shop next to Superquinn at least six times a week up to a month ago, until he went from €2.75 to €3.30 overnight!ffs and looked in this morning and he did not reduce it so he has gotten a +20% increase on his coffee in a recession! needless to say I let my feelings be known and have not been there since.Thats €9.99 per litre ..... for coffee not petrol

Deise Tom

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Anyone been to any cafes or restaurants that have passed on the Vat decrease?

I suspect that most wont pass it on.

Was in a few in the west of the county and there is no change. Not really worth arguing about for a few cents. What was taken off, something like 4 cent in the euro. you would want to be spending a lot of money before you benefit anyway. The governement are making a big thing about nothing for most people that use restaurants.

dayshah

hardybuck wrote: »

Might be awkward for brands which have a specific and convenient price, and one which they may have invested funds marketing.

The Eurosaver menu in McDonald's springs to mind. Will the €2 burger now be €1.91 or whatever?

Yep, my heart really bleeds for them.

dayshah

Deise Tom wrote: »

Was in a few in the west of the county and there is no change. Not really worth arguing about for a few cents. What was taken off, something like 4 cent in the euro. you would want to be spending a lot of money before you benefit anyway. The governement are making a big thing about nothing for most people that use restaurants.

Well they seem to think its worth keeping in their pockets. The scumbags.

If it shows one thing, if they cut JLC pay that won't be passed on either. Its all just to line their pockets.

bkehoe

No change in the Ramada Viking hotel for the price of lunch anyway!

Furshure

notice that Irish Indpendent came out a a few weeks ago urging all busineeses to pass on the VAT reduction and throwing their weight behind the whole idea.
But here's the rub, as far as I can figure it out ....
The Indo itself cut it's price by 5c which is fine but if you work the sums that is less than the rate reduction. Their daily from Monday to Friday dropped from 1.90 to 1.85 and Saturday edition from 2.20 to 2.15. By any rough calculation they have retained 2c to 3c and based on circulation of about 135,000 per day that will net them an exatra profit of about 20,000 euro per week or over 1m per year. In fact it might be more as they own more than just the Indo and don't know what the reduction in any other of their publications.
Amazed at their double standards by supporting the idea in editorial but netting 1m profit out of it at the same time !

langer123

Hey All

Had the urge for some hangover food, so I logged onto Domino's website to feed the craving!!

Straight away I noticed that their prices had not been reduced with the VAT reduction.
This REALLY infuriated me. As a previous post mentioned, they wouldn't be slow putting prices up if there was a 4.5% VAT increase.

Needless to say, I did not order from them and I will never for as long as I live order from them. I did take a look on the site for somewhere to email them but could not find anything.

I'd ask people to continue to post about Domino's and companies like them that are ripping us off. And boycott such companies of course.

Google will do the rest and get the stories to the top of search results

Domino's Rip-off Greed VAT not reduced Boycott!

Vent over!

200motels

Anyone who doesn't pass on the Vat change should be named and shamed and the government should fine them.

Speak Now

200motels wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't pass on the Vat change should be named and shamed and the government should fine them.

They should be named and shamed alright but the government wont be fining them i'm afraid. No obligation to pass it on, they can just say the price of stuff has risen recently and they didnt pass it on to customer.
We should all of course only use those that passed it on. People might say it's nothing but almost 1 euro is every 20 is better in our pocket than theirs.

Sully

Gingerman has the same prices as before the VAT rate anyway.

cowhands

Really hoping the Woodlands hotel are passing it on...getting married there soon and it would save us a couple of hundred

Bards

... and remember folks we're paying for this 4% reduction by our private pensions being robbed.

What's the bet in a years time with hardly any business reducing their VAT rate the Govt restores the old rate and the companies that didn't pass on the rate ups their prices by 4%:mad:

eolasguy

Have Storm dropped theirs yet? Haven't got a chance to drop in and check. Want to go during the week but will be pissed if its not dropped :mad:

bkehoe

bkehoe wrote: »

No change in the Ramada Viking hotel for the price of lunch anyway!

The Holy Cross also hasn't dropped the price of lunches.

Both of these should have had about a 50 cent price reduction and are instead pocketing the difference.

Sully

Emilianos hasn't either. Asked and was told because of the Tall Ships being so busy, he didn't get a chance but is printing out new menus next week.

MitchKoobski

Sully wrote: »

Emilianos hasn't either. Asked and was told because of the Tall Ships being so busy, he didn't get a chance but is printing out new menus next week.

Sounds like more of an excuse, doesn't explain why he couldn't just take the VAT off the price at the end of the meal or something.

Everyone will be using that one.
"Why aren't ye passing on savings on the new VAT rate?"
"We're waiting for our new signs and advertisements to be done up with the prices before we change anything."
*two months later*
"Yeah still waiting on them new menus/signs to come through."

dayshah

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Sounds like more of an excuse, doesn't explain why he couldn't just take the VAT off the price at the end of the meal or something.

Everyone will be using that one.
"Why aren't ye passing on savings on the new VAT rate?"
"We're waiting for our new signs and advertisements to be done up with the prices before we change anything."
*two months later*
"Yeah still waiting on them new menus/signs to come through."

It wasn't exactly a shock decision announce midnight before the change. They had plenty of time.

Places are just seeing how many people notice, and if other places are making the change.

And remember, the same places complaining about the VAT are the ones complaining about wages. Fat chance they'd lower the price if they cut wages. With VAT is totally obvious how much the change is. With wages they can hide the change.

Sully

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Sounds like more of an excuse, doesn't explain why he couldn't just take the VAT off the price at the end of the meal or something.

Everyone will be using that one.
"Why aren't ye passing on savings on the new VAT rate?"
"We're waiting for our new signs and advertisements to be done up with the prices before we change anything."
*two months later*
"Yeah still waiting on them new menus/signs to come through."

Shame there is no body who can enforce it tbh. But yeah, they were given a lot of notice about the VAT change so they should have been prepared.

dayshah

Sully wrote: »

Shame there is no body who can enforce it tbh. But yeah, they were given a lot of notice about the VAT change so they should have been prepared.

It comes down to us Sully. The local media won't name and shame potential advertisers, so its left to the heroes of boards.ie

abouttobebanned

dayshah wrote: »

It comes down to us Sully. The local media won't name and shame potential advertisers, so its left to the heroes of boards.ie

Until one of said companies complains.

Minstrel27

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Until one of said companies complains.

How could they complain if the truth is posted?

Benimar

I'm pretty sure that if the VAT rate was going UP 4% they would have had their menus printed on time :rolleyes:

Surely we could have a list of those who have reduced their prices and those who haven't? After all we are merely listing a fact - prices have come down or they haven't.

If companies who haven't reduced prices want to try justify their decision thats up to them, but they surely can't deny whats staring everyone in the face..that they didn't lower their prices.