Kevin Doyle

darkman2

Some of the comments from Arsenal fans online about the prospect of Doyle signing for them are bizarre. "Not good enough for Arsenal" seems to be the main theme. Alot of fans across the water not impressed at all!


I think that's wrong. I think Doyle is a good player in a poor Wolves team. He works hard, scores goals and is arguably the best player in the EPL at holding up the ball. Is he any worse then Bendtner!? - No. I think he would excel at a big club. Very under rated and I think most Irish fans know that.


I hope he makes the move to a big club. I think he should be at a big club because he is a very good player. Do you agree?

Mr.Crinklewood

He is no Nicklas Bendtner.

Kristopherus

Why the same Nicklas has'nt been dumped by the Gunners long before now is beyond me:)

dougal

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

He is no Nicklas Bendtner.

He is the Anti-Bendtner!

I think he would really be good for Arsenal - the amount of work he gets in would allow them to work off him.

Hank_Jones

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

He is no Nicklas Bendtner.

Is that a direct quote from Bendtner? :pac:

5starpool

I don't think he is good enough to warrant a starting spot in any team that aims to finish in the top 4 of the league, and I wasn't aware it was even up for dispute.

That_Guy

5starpool wrote: »

I don't think he is good enough to warrant a starting spot in any team that aims to finish in the top 4 of the league, and I wasn't aware it was even up for dispute.

And Jordan Henderson is?

Royale with Cheese

As an Arsenal fan I think he'd do a job, don't see him being any worse than Bendtner or Chamakh, but €14m is a bit much to pay for a squad player for Arsenal right now.

Also most fans are fed up of cheap signings and want to see some proven quality brought in, along with the best players not being sold. I think most Arsenal fans are just sick to death of Arsene's transfer policy and Doyle is somewhat the victim of that.

Cill Dara Abu

I'm surprised at Wenger's interest in Doyle, although he's an excellent player, he's not the most gifted technically, I'd love to see him get his chance at a top 4 side.

eagle eye

I think he is a phenomenal player. His workload is second to none and he has a great brain for the game too. I think he is the type of player who sometimes doesn't look good because of those around him. The better the players he plays with the better he is going to look.

Paully D

I actually think he's one of the best strikers in the Premier League at playing the lone striker role. I think he's very underrated and would be quite a good signing for Arsenal.

That said, I can understand why the Arsenal supporters aren't happy. The reported price is £12m which is quite expensive (I'd rate him at around £8m myself) and I think we all know they can, and should, attract a better standard of player.

I can't see it happening myself.

Raskolnikov

That_Guy wrote: »

And Jordan Henderson is?

Liverpool aren't a top 4 team, so your point is moot :pac:

tallaghtmick

Im very surprised wenger wants him......does he have a french granny or something

Chucky the tree

That_Guy wrote: »

And Jordan Henderson is?

Happy to have a wager that Henderson won't be starting for the majority of games next year if you want.

Raskolnikov

darkman2 wrote: »

I think he should be at a big club because he is a very good player. Do you agree?

In all fairness, look at the quality of forward that Arsenal have had at their club in recent years, Wright, Bergkamp, Henry, Van Persie, etc. Doyle is a work horse and a decent player, but he is not fit to lace the boots of any of those players. Considering Arsenal have similar players in the shape of Bendtner and Chamakh, they have ever right to be furious.

That_Guy

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Liverpool aren't a top 4 team, so your point is moot :pac:

Touche sir.

Johner

Kevin Doyle is a good player but he's not good enough for Arsenal imo.

5starpool

That_Guy wrote: »

And Jordan Henderson is?

Find a quote anywhere on the internet where I said he is good enough to be a regular starter for a team who aims to be in the top 4 next season and I'll eat humble pie, or else stop derailing the thread with sh1t talk please.

KeithAFC

Give me him over Bendtner any day of the week. He actually has work ethic and ability. Unlike Bendtner who is just shyte.

wandatowell

What Keith said

Paleface

He would work his socks off for the team which is exactly what Arsenal need.

However I feel the story is just more creative writing from the tabloid press.

eagle eye

Johner wrote: »

Kevin Doyle is a good player but he's not good enough for Arsenal imo.

Please explain why he is not good enough for Arsenal.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

5starpool wrote: »

Find a quote anywhere on the internet where I said he is good enough to be a regular starter for a team who aims to be in the top 4 next season and I'll eat humble pie, or else stop derailing the thread with sh1t talk please.

You're the one derailing it by replying..

5starpool

baz2009 wrote: »

You're the one derailing it by replying..

Explain how please. What has Jordan Henderson got to do with Kevin Doyle? Bendtner plays with the team that was reported as being interested in, so the comparisons there are valid, not with a player who plays in a different position with a different team, and has not played 1 single second for his new team yet.

Above all, that stupid smilie really gets on my wick.

Johner

eagle eye wrote: »

Please explain why he is not good enough for Arsenal.

He doesn't score enough goals for one.

JPA

Doyle is 27 and and 28 in September. I feel he's wasted a lot of his career through loyalty. He should have left Reading after their Premier League relegation.

He needs a big move for his career but perhaps Arsenal is too big a move for him. If it does happen I wish him all the best and will be very much supporting him.

Augmerson

5starpool wrote: »

Explain how please. What has Jordan Henderson got to do with Kevin Doyle? Bendtner plays with the team that was reported as being interested in, so the comparisons there are valid, not with a player who plays in a different position with a different team, and has not played 1 single second for his new team yet.

Above all, that stupid smilie really gets on my wick.

tallaghtmick

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Im very surprised wenger wants him......does he have a french granny or something

Perhaps someone told Wenger Doyle is Wexican, and Wenger mistook it for Mexican

eagle eye

Johner wrote: »

He doesn't score enough goals for one.

He plays for Wolves. And he wouldn't be expected to be Arsenal's tallisman I'd imagine, he would be playing as part of a front two or three I'd imagine if he went there.

Johner

eagle eye wrote: »

He plays for Wolves. And he wouldn't be expected to be Arsenal's tallisman I'd imagine, he would be playing as part of a front two or three I'd imagine if he went there.

Wolves scored 46 league goals last year and Doyle scored only 5 of them and yes I know he was injured for a while.

He is a very hard worker and his support play is excellent but for 12 million goals would be needed as well and I just don't think he scores enough.

5starpool

eagle eye wrote: »

He plays for Wolves. And he wouldn't be expected to be Arsenal's tallisman I'd imagine, he would be playing as part of a front two or three I'd imagine if he went there.

Do you think he is good enough for Utd or Chelsea? Saying he is not good enough for Arsenal is not the same as saying that he is not better than Bentdner. He could be a reasonable option as a squad player perhaps, but the likes of Arsenal should be aiming for more from their front players.

gosplan

darkman2 wrote: »

I think he should be at a big club because he is a very good player. Do you agree?

I'm a big fan of Doyle, always have been, but only on an Irish forum would people be suggesting that Doyle is what Arsenal needs right now.

KeithAFC

gosplan wrote: »

I'm a big fan of Doyle, always have been, but only on an Irish forum would people be suggesting that Doyle is what Arsenal needs right now.

Why would Doyle not be good enough for us at this moment in time as a squad player from the bench? Can come on and keep a good pace upfront for us, close tired legs down, might get the odd important goal. Will get plenty of chances to score goals as we create a lot of chances.

Plus he might raise his level.

Fuhrer

He has had good goal scoring seasons in the Premier League before

Hoki

KeithAFC wrote: »

Why would Doyle not be good enough for us at this moment in time as a squad player from the bench? Can come on and keep a good pace upfront for us, close tired legs down, might get the odd important goal. Will get plenty of chances to score goals as we create a lot of chances.

Plus he might raise his level.

Chamakh is used for this role , would Doyle be happy to sit on the bench as 3rd choice striker, couldnt see him being used more than Chamakh tbh. If Van Persie stays fit for the majority of the season Doyle wouldnt see a lot of game time.

eagle eye

5starpool wrote: »

Do you think he is good enough for Utd or Chelsea? Saying he is not good enough for Arsenal is not the same as saying that he is not better than Bentdner. He could be a reasonable option as a squad player perhaps, but the likes of Arsenal should be aiming for more from their front players.

I think he is good enough for any top team in the right system. I like him as a wide forward and I think he would be brilliant for any team thats playing a 4-3-3 system. In the Chelsea team of last season I'd prefer him on the left to anybody that played there. United don't really play that sort of system. City don't either. Arsenal looks like a good fit for him imo.

Hannibal

Doyle is an excellent footballer, not a prolific goalscorer but plays the game with his brain and has excellent work rate levels combined with a good attitude.
Looking at the top Prem teams forwards, he's better than Bendtner, Vela, Chamakh, Ngog, Owen, Welbeck, Crouch, Santa Cruz etc.. so he is easily worthy of a place on the bench at any top team

Hank Scorpio

decent player, not Arsenal quality tho imo

flahavaj

eagle eye wrote: »

I think he is good enough for any top team in the right system. I like him as a wide forward and I think he would be brilliant for any team thats playing a 4-3-3 system. In the Chelsea team of last season I'd prefer him on the left to anybody that played there. United don't really play that sort of system. City don't either. Arsenal looks like a good fit for him imo.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

5starpool wrote: »

Explain how please. What has Jordan Henderson got to do with Kevin Doyle? Bendtner plays with the team that was reported as being interested in, so the comparisons there are valid, not with a player who plays in a different position with a different team, and has not played 1 single second for his new team yet.

Above all, that stupid smilie really gets on my wick.

You're a feisty lickle one, aren't ya?

Had you not have replied to it, we wouldn't be having this discussion, therefore dragging the thread off-topic. To me, your post seemed like you were looking for an argument.

L'prof

KeithAFC wrote: »

Why would Doyle not be good enough for us at this moment in time as a squad player from the bench? Can come on and keep a good pace upfront for us, close tired legs down, might get the odd important goal. Will get plenty of chances to score goals as we create a lot of chances.

Plus he might raise his level.

£12m is too much to be spending on a substitute and I don't think he's good enough to start the majority of our games!

Blatter

Kevin Doyle as a wing forward?

That's just taking the piss at the stage EE.

Chucky the tree

Decent mid table premiership standard player, but because he is Irish he is ridiculously over-rated.

noodler

He is a special player in my books. Some of the goals he scored, against Andorra or Slovakia away show he has some tekkers.

Its not Messi - Special obviously, but his pace, ability to win the ball, run the channels are excellent.

Everytime he plays for Ireland I am more and more impressed. I doubt Wenger is interested but I would love to see him playingt for a team not battling relegation - it tends to have a fairly negative effect on your goal tally.

Blatter

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Decent mid table premiership standard player, but because he is Irish he is ridiculously over-rated.

noodler wrote: »

He is a special player in my books. Some of the goals he scored, against Andorra or Slovakia away show his tekkers.

Its not Messi - Special obviously, but his pace, ability to win the ball, run the channels are excellent.

Everytime he plays for Ireland I am more and more impressed. I doubt Wenger is interested but I would love to see him playingt for a team not battling relegation - it tends to have a fairly negative effect on your goal tally.

QED

Melion

Didnt he have a few pages dedicated to him in the "Over-rated players" thread a few months ago?
Ridiculous signing for Arsenal if true, nowhere near good enough for that level. Mid-Table is his level

theteal

while i'm here i do plan on going to a few games in the coming season, i've no real preference for any of these English teams. . .but i would definitely get that piccadilly train up to see doyler

reminds me of henk larsson the way he can win the ball and hold it up and do the simple things right. . .more goals will be required if such a move does transpire

noodler

Blatter wrote: »

QED

Sorry?

Did you misunderstand something in my post?

LuckyLloyd

He's surely a better player than Chamakh?

Predalien

He has a lot of the qualities Arsenal lack at the moment, he works ridiculously hard, he's tough, strong, resilient and doesn't drop his head when the team is losing or up against it. Arsenal have to accept that what they've been trying over the last few years hasn't been working and they need to get a few players with better mental strength.

I can see why people can say Doyle lacks quality because of a relatively poor scoring record but his game is about far more than that, his hold up play brings other players into the game and you can tell centrebacks hate being dragged about by him. Plus he's been playing in teams that don't score much. He's usually Ireland's best player when he's playing and he was sorely missed by Wolves when he was injured this year.

I have a feeling he'll be able to up his game to the level required if he moves to a bigger club and would love to see it happen. (Even though I don't think it's all that likely.)

Nalz

nuxxx wrote: »

decent player, not Arsenal quality tho imo

wtf, if Fabregas and Nasri leave is he Arsenal quality then? What defines this? IMO he'd be the second best striker there if he joined now and would do more "than a job"

Arsenal quality my ass