Playstation 4 to be released in 2012?

cmccarra

Sony will have Taiwan-based partners begin production of PlayStation 4 (PS4) featuring body movement-based control like Kinect at the end of 2011 for launch in 2012, according to Taiwan-based component makers.

Foxconn and Pegatron Technology, assemblers of PS3, will undertake assembly of PS4 as well, the sources pointed out. The planned shipment volume of PS4 in 2012 is at least 20 million units, the sources indicated.

(via reconrepublic.com)

Is it time for the next generation?

NUTZZ

cmccarra wrote: »

Is it time for the next generation?

Absolutely not, and it's not going to happen anytime soon either. That report is just ridiculous, it' all just a rumour, and here

cmccarra

Yeh it's hard to see the credibility of the source digitimes.com

Myrddin

Maybe they just forgot to mention it at E3? Total horsepoo.

amacachi

20 million in under a year? OK.

Technoprisoner

even if it was officaly to be released in 2012 you probably wouldnt see it till 2018 beacuse they couldnt get the rain correct :pac:

That_Guy

wes

I doubt we will see a new PlayStation that soon to be honest. I reckon 2013 at the earliest, and maybe even 2014 for a new PlayStation.

Varik

I don't think it'll be announced until 2013 and dependant on when it's announce would be aimed for a holiday release in 2013 or 2014.

If the wii u turns out to be better than expected or MS try to get a year lead again i would think that would speed things up.

Owen

Didn't Sony say they weren't going to be pumping anything near the developmental budget of the PS3 into the next PS?

norrie rugger

look at the difference between inFAMOUS 1&2. Developers are just getting the hang of this gen

johnmcdnl

wes wrote: »

I doubt we will see a new PlayStation that soon to be honest. I reckon 2013 at the earliest, and maybe even 2014 for a new PlayStation.

I doubt we'll even officially hear anything til then nevermind see anything

Danger781

Definitely not true.. I'm not expecting a next gen console until 2014 or 2015

richymcdermott

Im expecting a release 2013 but ps3 i reckon will still be around aswell

Myrddin

richymcdermott wrote: »

Im expecting a release 2013 but ps3 i reckon will still be around aswell

Not the ones from today anyway

Beefy78

Weren't Sony talking about the PS3 having a ten year lifespan (and they certainly weren't talking about individual machines lasting that long)?

amacachi

Beefy78 wrote: »

Weren't Sony talking about the PS3 having a ten year lifespan (and they certainly weren't talking about individual machines lasting that long)?

Yeah but that doesn't mean 10 years until the next console is out. The PS2 was out in 2000 and it's lifespan went beyond the date that the PS3 came out. The overlap between consoles still counts in its lifespan.

richymcdermott

PS1 1995
PS2 2000
PS3 2006
PS4 ????

With a rumour of a console price cut, xbox new console next year supposly aswell nintendo wii u , dont write it off , all bout this companies fighting to get a foot hold in first

mcgovern

richymcdermott wrote: »

PS1 1995
PS2 2000
PS3 2006
PS4 ????

With a rumour of a console price cut, xbox new console next year supposly aswell nintendo wii u , dont write it off , all bout this companies fighting to get a foot hold in first

There won't be a new Xbox out next year either.

shuffles03

I wouldn't say the PS4 will be released next year, probably the year after though.

Developer Gearbox were quoted saying the Wii U is a cleverly positioned 'stop gap' between this generation and the next generation of consoles

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-07-wii-u-a-really-cool-stop-gap-gearbox

I'd say the announcement of the Wii U has sped up the end of this gen as although typically a new Playstation is released every 5/6 years (by previous standards), I'd imagine both Sony and Microsoft would probably have squeezed out at least another 2 before announcing their successors.

The only way I see a new Playstation being announced/released next year is if solid rumors about the next Xbox surface. I would imagine Sony do not want to release a year after Microsoft again. They've just about caught up to them in terms of overall sales now and tbh, the Playstation is by far the better console at the moment (some seriously strong IP's).

Sony will get the Vita well out the door before turning towards the PS4.

I'm actually perfectly happy with the current gen. The likes of Uncharted 3 and Skyrim show how much this gen still has to offer.

Snowie

Beefy78 wrote: »

Weren't Sony talking about the PS3 having a ten year lifespan (and they certainly weren't talking about individual machines lasting that long)?

yeah and that was in 2006

Hirai has predicted that the PlayStation 3's life cycle will last for 10 years, hinting that the console's successor is more than five years away at least. In an interview with CNET, Hirai said: "We look at our products having a 10 year life cycle, which we've proven with the PlayStation. Therefore, the PlayStation 3 is going to be a console that's going to be with you again for 10 years.
"We're not going to ask the consumers to suddenly buy another PlayStation console in five years' time and basically have their investment go by the wayside," he added.
When asked to clarify whether that meant gamers will have to wait longer than five years for the PS4, Hirai replied: "I can't speculate on when we might come out with a new console after PlayStation 3. But my message is that once you become a family in the PlayStation family of products, you become a family member."
The PlayStation 3 is due to go on sale this November, priced at 599 Euro for the 60GB model or 499 Euro for the 20GB version. Sony has been criticised for setting such a high price point but, speaking in the same interview. Hirai reiterated the company's belief that the PS3 "ultimately offers fantastic value to the consumers".
"I don't think price is the only determining factor when consumers make a choice in looking at their console purchase decisions," he concluded.

Cork24

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Beefy78 wrote: »

Weren't Sony talking about the PS3 having a ten year lifespan (and they certainly weren't talking about individual machines lasting that long)?

yeah and that was in 2006

Hirai has predicted that the PlayStation 3's life cycle will last for 10 years, hinting that the console's successor is more than five years away at least. In an interview with CNET, Hirai said: "We look at our products having a 10 year life cycle, which we've proven with the PlayStation. Therefore, the PlayStation 3 is going to be a console that's going to be with you again for 10 years.
"We're not going to ask the consumers to suddenly buy another PlayStation console in five years' time and basically have their investment go by the wayside," he added.
When asked to clarify whether that meant gamers will have to wait longer than five years for the PS4, Hirai replied: "I can't speculate on when we might come out with a new console after PlayStation 3. But my message is that once you become a family in the PlayStation family of products, you become a family member."
The PlayStation 3 is due to go on sale this November, priced at 599 Euro for the 60GB model or 499 Euro for the 20GB version. Sony has been criticised for setting such a high price point but, speaking in the same interview. Hirai reiterated the company's belief that the PS3 "ultimately offers fantastic value to the consumers".
"I don't think price is the only determining factor when consumers make a choice in looking at their console purchase decisions," he concluded.

Look at some poor people Who paid the 599 euro only to have the ps3 die from overheating issue. And Sony told people that the ps3 side not overheat.

Snowie

Cork24 wrote: »

Look at some poor people Who paid the 599 euro only to have the ps3 die from overheating issue. And Sony told people that the ps3 side not overheat.

well then get a pitch fork start a fire and sing combuya because i dont care!

Cork24

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

Cork24 wrote: »

Look at some poor people Who paid the 599 euro only to have the ps3 die from overheating issue. And Sony told people that the ps3 side not overheat.

well then get a pitch fork start a fire and sing combuya because i dont care!

I dont care, if You dont care i Just came in and made a point on the over heat issues that their facing

bf2000ie

I have one of the original PS3, bought it within months of the original release and god bless her, shes never put a foot wrong ha.
Would like to put in a bigger harddrive and the fan does sound like it might take flight at any moment but she works perfectly.

I dont think there will be a PS4 for at least another 2 years. There are big games being released in the next 6 months that would have held back release if there was a PS4 coming. And dont fool yourself, they would know it is coming.
Sony wouldnt release a new console without the heavy hitter games to make you want it.
After the mess that was the GT5 release date, I dont think they will be the driving force behind a PS4 but watch out for the likes of CoD pushing back their release dates. They should anyway, make a better game, but you know what I mean haha

Scanlas The 2nd

PS1: 1994
PS2: 2000
PS3: 2006
PS4: ???

RangeR

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

PS1: 1994
PS2: 2000
PS3: 2006
PS4: ???

It definitely won't be 2012. PS3 has just about gotten into it's stride. I'd say... 2014 to 2016. However, an early release of a new xBox *MAY* speed that up. I'm sure Sony don't want to be two years behind the xBox AGAIN.

Edit : Sony have always stated that the PS3 had a ten year shelf life. that's not to say that they aren't working on a PS4 now. You can bet your arse they are.

amacachi

RangeR wrote: »

It definitely won't be 2012. PS3 has just about gotten into it's stride. I'd say... 2014 to 2016. However, an early release of a new xBox *MAY* speed that up. I'm sure Sony don't want to be two years behind the xBox AGAIN.

Edit : Sony have always stated that the PS3 had a ten year shelf life. that's not to say that they aren't working on a PS4 now. You can bet your arse they are.

10 year shelf life would allow the PS4 to come out next year or the following year without them breaking their word so to speak. I think Nintendo's release of Wii U and the fact that it's still basically just competing with the current consoles from MS and Sony probably led to some impetus fading in both companies. I doubt either have made a great profit so far this generation and will both be hoping the others don't blink any time soon.
One thing that I think does make this generation different is the pattern of what games are getting released. Usually by now the smaller developers will be releasing plenty of games but it seems a lot have moved to the portable consoles. Usually when a glut of high-quality, small-run games are on the way it's when development costs have come down and new consoles may be on the way. The fact that that still hasn't happened makes one wonder if there's long left for the current consoles or if it's still too dear to develop for them.

Long story short I'd say we may get an announcement at E3 next year with the other crowd (probably Sony second) announcing before the end of the year with one console released near the end of 2013 and the other maybe just in time for Christmas 2013.

Beefy78

RangeR wrote: »

It definitely won't be 2012. PS3 has just about gotten into it's stride. I'd say... 2014 to 2016. However, an early release of a new xBox *MAY* speed that up. I'm sure Sony don't want to be two years behind the xBox AGAIN.

I think that's the key point. Right now the PS3 has finally hit its stride. They're selling loads of them, each sale is making a profit instead of a massive loss and it's got a lot of quality games out now and on the way. The only thing that I can see that might make Sony keen to go through the expense of pushing forward with a new console would be Microsoft doing the same.

Trevor451

The only thing I can confirm is that I am not going to buy one

CiDeRmAn

No chance that Sony will showcase the PS4 before 2013, too much life left in the PS3 right now.
The machine seems to be suffering from a lack of cracking 3rd party exclusives, while the 360 is prospering on them.
The 360 must be due for replacement with an announcement probably next year, plus the WiiU is due to make an appearance and perhaps change everything, these events may spur Sony to make some sort of announcement in late 2012, to try to get consumers to hold off buying a competitors console and hold out til the following year for theirs.
All guess work but we'll see, can't see developers being able to afford supporting two resource heavy consoles from the same company, given the cost of said development, we may see a sudden demise of the PS3 and it's replacement, as in the Xbox transition to the 360, rather than the gradual shift from PS to PS2 and PS2 to PS3.

FR.Ted Crilly

Just got wind of Sony's cheap 3D 24 inch widescreen TV for the PS3,
http://www.pcworld.com/article/229669/e3_sony_introduces_lowcost_3d_tv_bundle.html
Hear its da bomb,:D all is not over yet PS3 and you can be assured it will be around for a long time after its successor the PS4 3D Virtual Reality Move Machine or some kind a mad sh!d
http://thegamershub.net/2011/08/new-ps3-3d-technology-first-look/
NOW dont tell me you aint goin to tap that right, heh heh heh, thats my sony NAAASSS

purpleblaa

FR.Ted Crilly wrote: »

http://thegamershub.net/2011/08/new-ps3-3d-technology-first-look/
NOW dont tell me you aint goin to tap that right, heh heh heh, thats my sony NAAASSS

That looks AWESOME!

TelePaul

I think we've finally begun to see developers reach the end of a five-year learning curve. Certain titles - Uncharted 2 springs to mind - have demonstrated just what they can do with the platform. It's a bit of a shame that it's taken five years of mediocre content and scant exclusive titles. Who remembers the original Playstation? The shift from cartridge to CD meant that there were a raft of exclusive games available from day one. I think today's titles are only starting to scratch the surface, and would hate for the PS3 to be the mini disc of consoles, caught between the innovation curves.

Cork24

In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.


Specs

Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

Blue Ray Disk-Drive

1TB HDD

Dolby Digital 7.1

Nvidia GeForce 3D
Price - 900

DarkDusk

Cork24 wrote: »

In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.


Specs

Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

Blue Ray Disk-Drive

1TB HDD

Dolby Digital 7.1

Nvidia GeForce 3D
Price - 900

No offence or anything, but who's going to buy a €900 console??:eek: Recession or not, we simply can't afford to buy a console that is way more expensive than a PC with similar specs...

amacachi

LOL, PCs starting to catch and overtake consoles.

Cork24

DarkDusk wrote: »

No offence or anything, but who's going to buy a €900 console??:eek: Recession or not, we simply can't afford to buy a console that is way more expensive than a PC with similar specs...

PS3 first when it came out was 900 euro, when i waited for about 6 Months i paid 400 euro

amacachi

Cork24 wrote: »

PS3 first when it came out was 900 euro

Lolwut?!

Cork24

amacachi wrote: »

Lolwut?!

YES !!! 900 Euro in H-Normans

I paid 600....

Now it is about 360 i think. The More they Sell the less the Price goes down as the Units Sales go down so they need to lower the prices..

amacachi

It wasn't 900. Unless you were buying half a dozen more controllers with it.

whiterebel

Cork24 wrote: »

YES !!! 900 Euro in H-Normans

I paid 600....

Now it is about 360 i think. The More they Sell the less the Price goes down as the Units Sales go down so they need to lower the prices..

It was in its arse. They must have been quoting you for their extended warranty as well.....:pac:

Cork24

So you tell me how much you paid for it.. As i can Remember my Friends getting it the First day and Forking out 900 euros...

I paid 600 for mine next you be telling me that it wasnt 600 euros I can Remember HN doing Finance for the PS3

If you look at the Sony PS3 Community This Question has come up more then once and it was 600Dollars in America,, Now We all know America is cheaper then UK & Ireland for everything so if a Console was Worth 600 Dollars it would be fair to say it was well over the 600 mark here...

Some people Even paid 900dollars for their 60Gb. i seen on Yahoo

Cork24

whiterebel wrote: »

It was in its arse. They must have been quoting you for their extended warranty as well.....:pac:

What your telling me i didnt pay 600 Euro? i got mine in Game

guil

PS3 was 630 when it was released, i bought my 60gb in june 07 in a bundle in gamestop, it was 700 with a choice of 2 sony games

i spent 2 grand that day between the ps3, few games and blu rays, an extra control and a new LCD

Myrddin

Cork24 wrote: »

In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

Reliability, something more inspiring than XMB, & fleets of high quality games.

Cork24 wrote:

Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

Better design materials is all. Sony are known to use really crappy thermal paste for one.

Cork24 wrote:

With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles

No, what we have are small pc's in fancy shells.

Cork24 wrote:

i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.

Hmm, maybe you should start gaming on the pc instead?

Cork24 wrote:

Specs

Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

Blue Ray Disk-Drive

1TB HDD

Dolby Digital 7.1

Nvidia GeForce 3D
Price - 900

In all fairness, the price for that is madness. The PS4 just needs to break the mould. Sony did it with the PS1, demolished the competition & there was nothing else like it out there for ages. It seems MS & Sony are so afraid to put a step wrong these days, they end up making almost the same machine with a different badge.

Sony, something different next please.

jaykhunter

I'd be more interested in what the main selling point would be. If 3D took off, there was increased processing power necessary then they'd need to bring one out to accomodate it.......but i don't think people are that interested.

Graphics are amazing, there's a massive difference between PS1 and 2, and 2 and 3. We're at a 'saturation point' for amazing looking graphics. Are devs clamering to get double the texture res's etc?

I'm not sure where we should see improvement really; this stuff looks amazing on a massive tv already... One thing I'd like to improve is the facial animation - as seen in LA Noire. But other than that, i don't see a reason (and so a selling point) for a new console.

Like Xboxes need more space because they're basically using DVD9s; so the alternative is to have things on 2-3 discs. Which is a hassle; it's more in the eyes of the consumer than spending the extra 20 cents pressing the discs...

Graphics are the readily demonstratable selling point for a new console; but we've reached that zenith where you need something more than that...what would the new selling point for a console be? They've already brought out a motion controller

13spanner

Do people actually want a motion controller? If the Wii is anything to go by, I sure don't. They should keep it classic with the type of controller the ps2 created and the ps3 perfected IMO. If it ain't broke....

amacachi

jaykhunter wrote: »

I'd be more interested in what the main selling point would be. If 3D took off, there was increased processing power necessary then they'd need to bring one out to accomodate it.......but i don't think people are that interested.

Graphics are amazing, there's a massive difference between PS1 and 2, and 2 and 3. We're at a 'saturation point' for amazing looking graphics. Are devs clamering to get double the texture res's etc?

I'm not sure where we should see improvement really; this stuff looks amazing on a massive tv already... One thing I'd like to improve is the facial animation - as seen in LA Noire. But other than that, i don't see a reason (and so a selling point) for a new console.

Like Xboxes need more space because they're basically using DVD9s; so the alternative is to have things on 2-3 discs. Which is a hassle; it's more in the eyes of the consumer than spending the extra 20 cents pressing the discs...

Graphics are the readily demonstratable selling point for a new console; but we've reached that zenith where you need something more than that...what would the new selling point for a console be? They've already brought out a motion controller

I said that meself in a few places. Looking over the last few generations the step-up for PS1 was 3D graphics. To PS2 it was 3D that wasn't terrible. :pac: To PS3 it was HD and much better in general. While I do think there'd be a visibly difference between PS3 and PS4 it's not going to be anything like the usual generational leaps so I strongly doubt either MS or Sony are looking forward to having to bring out a new console.

Captain Chaos

13spanner wrote: »

Do people actually want a motion controller? If the Wii is anything to go by, I sure don't. They should keep it classic with the type of controller the ps2 created and the ps3 perfected IMO. If it ain't broke....

What Sony need for the PS4 is a new controller design more than anything else. The DualShock is from the PSX days. I used it to play Ace Combat 2 in 1997 and it was amazing over what a d-pad control was like to fly with but now they need a new more comfortable design.

Sega almost nailed is with the DC and MS copied it for the Xbox and Nintendo with the GC controller layout. The new controller needs to be a bit bigger and heavier with the d-pad and left stick swapped around and the L2 and R2 buttons should be anything other than the concave design they used for the PS3, woeful design.

gizmo

In terms of a technical jump Carmack covered what a lot of devs would love in an interview with Tom's Guide. That would obviously be a move away from more off the shelf parts which have featured in both consoles this gen so I'd wager next gen will be more of the same, albeit beefier, with no drastic changes.

As for a general target for the next gen, for me it's simple, the ability to comfortably run 1080p at 60fps. 3D support makes this slightly more complex of course given the need to drop resolution or framerate but I think at least giving devs the option of which one to cut would be good enough for now.

As for the topic, of course the PS4 isn't coming out in the rumoured time scale.