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Have you been in a pub in Ireland when someone got whacked?

  • 29-06-2011 10:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭


    With all this gangland crime, I'm just wondering have an AH'rs happened to have been drinking in a pub when a gunman turned up to whack someone??? Statistically with so many lads getting shot dead in a pub in Ireland and with Irish pubs usually busy enough, you'd think it wouldn't be too hard these days to find a witness to such a scene???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Surely most people don't drink in **** hole bars though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Are ya looking to sell tickets?

    Sounds like you'd have the pop corn out.

    Not something i'd like to see tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Surely most people don't drink in **** hole bars though?

    My local is a respectable enough place in a respectable area but one evening, (when I wasn't there), a hitman came in looking for somone, but couldn't find him so left again...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Ireland, no.
    Yes. Manchester and it involved drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    No


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    Ive been in many a pub where people got...
    whacked
    scuttered
    sh*tfaced
    langered
    b*lloxed
    hammered
    sloshed
    stoned
    and
    p*ssed

    But I have never been in one when someone got shot.
    Sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    I've seen some patrons in an establishment having a few drinks while wearing vests once upon a time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Yeah I was in back when Billy Batts got wacked. Messy business. But if anyone asks I din see nuthin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Mamma mia, that's-a spicy meat ball-a!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Biggins wrote: »
    Ireland, no.
    Yes. Manchester and it involved drugs.

    Did the cúnt owe ya money?!? :D:D:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Did the cúnt owe ya money?!? :D:D:D
    No.
    A chap had been previously warned not to sell on someone elses area.
    He was in a nightclub one night that I was in (attending college and working at the time in England) quietly pushing his stuff when he was approached and killed a couple of feet away from me.
    Killer just quietly just walked away as if he had just swatted just a fly and carried on out towards the exit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Needler


    I dunno why anyone who knows people are out wanting to kill him would go and sit inside in a pub in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Biggins wrote: »
    No.
    A chap had been previously warned not to sell on someone elses area.
    He was in a nightclub one night that I was in (attending college and working at the time in England) quietly pushing his stuff when he was approached and killed a couple of feet away from me.
    Killer just quietly just walked away as if he had just swatted just a fly and carried on out towards the exit.

    Pray tell why you didn't preform a citizens arrest..:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bryaner wrote: »
    Pray tell why you didn't preform a citizens arrest..:D
    Manchester - rave nightclub - off my head at the time! :o

    (The security did nothing to stop the guy either on the way out - and they were BIG lads, well toned and trained, professionals.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    you'd think it wouldn't be too hard these days to find a witness to such a scene???

    Most hitmen wear motorcycle helmets and destroy clothing after the hit,some are caught due to fast garda response,or someone in the know talks..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Biggins wrote: »
    Manchester - rave nightclub - off my head at the time! :o

    (The security did nothing to stop the guy either on the way out - and they were BIG lads, well toned and trained, professionals.)

    Guns can make big lads pretty small..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bryaner wrote: »
    Guns can make big lads pretty small..
    O' no doubt.
    It was suspected (don't know if it was proven by the police) at the time as well, that the security guys was in on the 'official' allowed drug sales on the property.
    They were supposedly getting paid off to allow certain people in at the behest of a top known drugs operator at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Mr Keek


    I got whacked across the head with an ash tray when they were the center piece of every table when I was working in a pub.

    They just fired it at me, frisbee style. Big heavy duty glass one, didn't even break:cool:

    Does that count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Mr Keek wrote: »
    I got whacked across the head with an ash tray when they were the center piece of every table when I was working in a pub.

    They just fired it at me, frisbee style. Big heavy duty glass one, didn't even break:cool:

    Does that count?

    Sh!t yea I'll give you that one, feckin ouch............ just thought of it again ouchhhhhhh..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    If it comes to actually just violence (non-killings) seen within Ireland, yes.
    Have seen that many a time. Too many a time.
    Worst one of all was in a bar in Duleek, Co Meath. Two big Russian guys deciding to fallout with each other and one nearly ripping the throat out of the other with a broken pint glass.
    It was shocking stuff.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    The Factory by any chance?
    No, the place was called "The Temple" at the time and was run by the London based 'Ministry of Sound'.

    Been in the The Haçienda a few times - and I can tell you, that at times was pretty dodgy too.
    Was full of folk you wouldn't want to cross, seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Biggins wrote: »
    If it comes to actually just violence (non-killings) seen within Ireland, yes.
    Have seen that many a time. Too many a time.
    Worst one of all was in a bar in Duleek, Co Meath. Two big Russian guys deciding to fallout with each other and one nearly ripping the throat out of the other with a broken pint glass.
    It was shocking stuff.

    Wtf were you doing in Duleek, that place is like a scene outa wrong turn full of mutants..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    Biggins wrote: »
    No, the place was called "The Temple" at the time and was run by the London based 'Ministry of Sound'.

    Fair enough. I meant to ask "The Haçienda" anyway (place run by Factory Records/New Order etc). Apparently the place open season for drug dealers and organised crime by the time it went out of business.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    Fair enough. I meant to ask "The Haçienda" anyway (place run by Factory Records/New Order etc). Apparently the place open season for drug dealers and organised crime by the time it went out of business.
    I've no proof - but on what I saw, yes, I would well believe it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bryaner wrote: »
    Wtf were you doing in Duleek, that place is like a scene outa wrong turn full of mutants..
    Thats a whole different topic involving a first ex-wife. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Duleek isn't to bad tbf. When people aren't getting stabbed in the head with screwdrivers outside the big spar that is... Yuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭shantolog


    Yea I've been in a club where people got whacked.................off in the corner on Saturday night by some cheap floozy.

    Seriously though, while I wasn't there on the night, someone got shot and killed in the pub I frequent, does not stop me going though as it's quite nice, though they won't sell me shorts anymore:(...worth it though, best night EVER;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    whacked off? or just whacked.

    (no to both, anyway. :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    shantolog wrote: »
    Yea I've been in a club where people got whacked.................off in the corner on Saturday night by some cheap floozy.
    great minds, etc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    you'd think it wouldn't be too hard these days to find a witness to such a scene???

    Most hitmen wear motorcycle helmets and destroy clothing after the hit,some are caught due to fast garda response,or someone in the know talks..
    I meant a witness in the general sense as opposed to the judicial meaning of the word...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭EverEvolving




    Do we have to pretend we didn't click on that link now? :pac:

    Happened in the pub I worked in in Spain, guy pulled out a gun and ordered the guy outside, don't know what happened next, was too busy calming down customers, the boss gave everyone that was there a free settler, except us skivvies :( Cops came and took statements off people who seen but I never heard any more of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Got whacked off on a dancefloor years ago. Dirty bitch. It was deadly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    I was in desesperados in Juarez with 2 friends before when a gun fight erupted. I only found out not too long ago that 5 people were killed in it. The shooting ended up out on the street so we ended up running out the back with a load of others and went back to the US that night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    Biggins wrote: »
    No.
    A chap had been previously warned not to sell on someone elses area.
    He was in a nightclub one night that I was in (attending college and working at the time in England) quietly pushing his stuff when he was approached and killed a couple of feet away from me.
    Killer just quietly just walked away as if he had just swatted just a fly and carried on out towards the exit.

    :eek:From reading your posts your life sounds fascinating:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    seanybiker wrote: »
    Got whacked off on a dancefloor years ago. Dirty bitch. It was deadly.

    Any chance you were in Ruby's:D tends to be where the easy targets go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    deisedave wrote: »
    Any chance you were in Ruby's:D tends to be where the easy targets go

    Nah down in preachers about 10 years ago


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    deisedave wrote: »
    :eek:From reading your posts your life sounds fascinating:)
    Honestly, genuinely, not really.
    Once you get the educational major part over - or even during the later part of it, life starts to open up.
    That and a bit of travel (which I and a friend did) and just as many - and different - life experiences are gained.
    If you still young and have the time and ability, the best thing you can ever do is travel.
    As in my case it was across water to a number of places as work and outside it.
    The world is your oyster and as I'm sure others here who have done same as I, life experiences start to build up. Be they big one or small ones, its inevitable.
    All the best. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Last Sunday. In fairness the child was acting up and deserved it, no matter what your views on corporal punishment happen to be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Biggins wrote: »
    Ireland, no.
    Yes. Manchester and it involved drugs.

    But of course you have. Sure you've exploding collapsing buildings, have the dirt on celebrities, been in pubs where people have been shot, been shot at yourself(?) among other numerous tales too. Is there any situation where you have not been involved in walter?I wouldn't be surprised if you said you were the gay girl in Damascus as well!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    But of course you have. Sure you've exploding collapsing buildings, have the dirt on celebrities, been in pubs where people have been shot, been shot at yourself(?) among other numerous tales too. Is there any situation where you have not been involved in walter?I wouldn't be surprised if you said you were the gay girl in Damascus as well!

    Looks like you can add recipient of a backlash on boards.ie to that list of experience now Biggins! :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    But of course you have. Sure you've exploding collapsing buildings, have the dirt on celebrities, been in pubs where people have been shot, been shot at yourself(?) among other numerous tales too. Is there any situation where you have not been involved in walter?I wouldn't be surprised if you said you were the gay girl in Damascus as well!
    Over the years of my posting here, I have posted photos of my time in Manchester.
    I have posted photos to others of bombings and my being there.
    I have posted to others, photos and links to my private family website where I have confirmed to others here (MODS included) to whom I associate with.
    I have posted photos of places mentioned (in Duleek for example) and my being in such places.
    ...and on.

    I don't expect you to go on 100% trust - but I would hope that sometimes you would have faith that some people have been around, are older and have been through some crap.
    Thats life. By the time you get to my age, you will have been through some stuff, maybe too much more so.
    All said with respect. :)

    Edit:
    Did a quick search here and here is just one of my earlier posts: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63112024&postcount=69
    (Some of the pics in that are of 111 Bradshawgate street, Bolton, Manchester and 200 yards up from that is the Bolton Institute of Higher Education Collage)
    If I can dig up some other proof to show that I'm not the liar your imposing an image of, upon me, I will do so, given the time I have today to prove myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 261 ✭✭this is arse


    no but i once whacked one off in a pub toilet :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Doublin


    I had left around 30mins prior the night PJ Judge was shot in the Royal Oak car park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Years ago I lived in the Liberties and was cycling home about 9.30pm on a weekday night. As I passed the local pub a few doors down from my apartment I noticed things sounded a bit raucous inside. I remember taking note of the time because I was surprised, it was very much the small, quiet 'old man' pub. Next morning I discovered a man had been shot there at precisely the time I was passing on my bike.

    When I was about sixteen a very well known and notorious traveller was murdered in my home town. On the day of the funeral the place was on lock down and swarming with Gardai because of fears of a retaliation attack. Myself and my boyfriend would sometimes meet up *ahem* in an old boarded up, derelict house on the outskirts of the town. On the day of the funeral, we were in there when we heard the sound of a procession of cars speeding past and people roaring out the windows etc. Next there was a series of deafening bangs coming from the other rooms in the house and the sound of breaking glass. It was terrifying, we just sat there in shock until the banging sounds stopped. When we did get up and move around the house we saw a number bullet holes in the windows. People had been shooting at the house!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    I was in a pub in Co.Down about 10 years ago when 2 masked men walked in. A man sitting about 20ft away scrambled up, and ran for the toilets. Pretty stupid place to run but that particular bar only had one enterance. The gunman, calm as you like, shot him twice in the back as he was getting to the toilets doorway, then walked up and shot him twice more as he lay on the ground. A fairly traumatic experience for most of us who witnessed it but not least for his wife, sister and mother who where all there at the time.
    Turned out to be part of a loyalist feud going on at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭dpe


    Biggins wrote: »
    Ireland, no.
    Yes. Manchester and it involved drugs.

    Me too. Stabbing in a pub in Broughton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭dpe


    Biggins wrote: »
    No, the place was called "The Temple" at the time and was run by the London based 'Ministry of Sound'.

    Been in the The Haçienda a few times - and I can tell you, that at times was pretty dodgy too.
    Was full of folk you wouldn't want to cross, seriously.

    I was in the Hacienda the night it got reopened, and there were a bunch of stabbings that night as well, but I didn't see any of it. We only became aware when the police showed up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    With all this gangland crime, I'm just wondering have an AH'rs happened to have been drinking in a pub when a gunman turned up to whack someone??? Statistically with so many lads getting shot dead in a pub in Ireland and with Irish pubs usually busy enough, you'd think it wouldn't be too hard these days to find a witness to such a scene???

    i came on a double murder once. it happened at the junction of gardiner st and summerhill i think? was quite gruesome


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    dpe wrote: »
    Me too. Stabbing in a pub in Broughton.

    Besides the pub incident, that whole place and area is absolutely lovely.
    Especially around there and Bolton and Edgworth where the old mills are.
    I miss that whole area. Used to take some lovely walks over there on the hiking trails.
    (Stopping off in a "Rose and Crown" for refreshment)
    Hope to return some day. Still brings back fond memories. :o


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