Kerry vs Cork:Munster Final

lynchy101

This is the clash of the heavyweights round 1.Two teams I expect to be there on the second week in September.

Home advantage should serve Kerry well but I feel Corks ball winning ability and fitness will make the difference.

Cork by 2

ShamoBuc

Cork are due a win in Killarney. They've come close on several occasions lately but Sunday will hopefully be the day another monkey is knocked off our back. If we can counter or limit the supply of long ball into Donaghy they will have to move him to midfield - like he normally does, thus limiting the type of ball they can play into their forwards. Going there as All Ireland champions should give us a bit of an edge ( maybe just psychological) and I think Kerry will leak a few goals ( á la Limerick) and this is what could be the difference. Cork have always been guilty of not scoring enough goals, particularly against Kerry, I think we will correct that on Sunday, hopefully - Cork by 6ish.

Stinicker

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

Mr. Incognito

It's a matter of who will outscore the other.

A lot depends on the ref. If he is finiky Kerry have a huge advantage in Sheehan.

Kerry's full back line is soft as is primary possession in midfield.

It's a toss up for me.

Can easily see another draw

Fr Tod Umptious

Stinicker wrote: »

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

I don't agree with you analysis there.

For a start Galvin is injured and will not even be on the bench.

You cannot go on what has happened in the past to determine what will happen between Cork and Kerry this year.

Firstly Kerry are no where near the team they were in the last few years.
Their midfield is weak (Scanlon and A.N Other) and their backs are ageing and suspended (T O' Shea)
Yes they have good forwards, but if they cannot get the ball from the half backs or midfield then they will not be involved, and as ShamoBuc states you may see Donaghy come back to midfield to try and sort that out.

Bryan Sheean is not rock solid either, in previous years he has blown hot and cold.

I don't agree with the theory that Kerry will be around at the end of September, they are just not strong enough in 2011 to be capable of beating any team they meet.

Cork on the other had have won the last three national senior competitions.
They have a big squad and it's a squad that have now won something so that will do their confidence the world of good.
I can see Cork winning this by a couple of points and if the teams meet again later they will go for the jugular and win by a bigger margin.

lynchy101

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

It's a matter of who will outscore the other.

Most games are

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Mr. Incognito wrote: »

It's a matter of who will outscore the other.

Can easily see another draw

:D

i predict a draw also.

Mr. Incognito

lynchy101 wrote: »

Most games are

What I meant is that in will not be a low scoring affair like the 2006 Semi Final. Kerry turn a lot of possession over in the back line and break down the field in a wave.

Cork do not have to full back line to hold the Kerry Full Forward Line, that has been proven time and time again.

However Scanlon and Sheehan are not going to hold the midfield battle. Kerry were eaten alive in midfield until Galvin came on and turned both games last year. Eoin Brosnan in the half back line was obviously put in to counter this by playing off midfield as a third man. The experiment seems to be working as picking up a man seems to have curbed his natural laziness to defend as a half forward and he is still as effective as ever going forward.

Kerry have shown against Cork they can lose midfield and still win the game. They did it with almost half the primary possession in the All Ireland Final in 2008.

I expect a high scoring and entertaining game anyway.

ShamoBuc

Stinicker wrote: »

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

There is so much to disect and counter argue with in the above post - I think I'll simple say......:rolleyes:

The_Kew_Tour

Stinicker wrote: »

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

Now I have read a lot of bitter posts in my time, but well done you win by a marathon....

buckwheat

Stinicker wrote: »

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

And the award for the most bitter rant of the year goes to
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Stinicker. Congrats:)

The_Kew_Tour

buckwheat wrote: »

And the award for the most bitter rant of the year goes to
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Stinicker. Congrats:)

If there is a prize at end of year it's a sure things...

corny

Cork will win in every sector of the field bar their full back line and the score board. Kerry are the team to watch this year.

gaffer91

One thing I have an issue with is people think Bryan Sheehan is some sort of master free taker.He is a good free taker, who has scored some magnificent (and important) frees over the years, but he misses more than people seem to pick up on.I'd even go as far to say that Gooch has become a better free taker than him over the last few years.

Kerry's midfield is not motoring well at all this year and if Sheehan is playing there again I expect him to be found out. Kerry's full back line is also very soft.

Having said that, Kerry's forwards are unquestionably among the best in the country and could really go to town on the cork backs.

Taking all that into account, it could well be, like Mr.Incognito says, a high scoring shoot-out.

And I'm going to sit on the fence and say draw.

Stinicker

gaffer91 wrote: »

One thing I have an issue with is people think Bryan Sheehan is some sort of master free taker.He is a good free taker, who has scored some magnificent (and important) frees over the years, but he misses more than people seem to pick up on.I'd even go as far to say that Gooch has become a better free taker than him over the last few years.

Kerry's midfield is not motoring well at all this year and if Sheehan is playing there again I expect him to be found out. Kerry's full back line is also very soft.

Having said that, Kerry's forwards are unquestionably among the best in the country and could really go to town on the cork backs.

Taking all that into account, it could well be, like Mr.Incognito says, a high scoring shoot-out.

And I'm going to sit on the fence and say draw.

I agree with everything you both Kerry and Cork's back have their weaknesses and it will be a high scoring game with many goals from both sides, however I believe Kerry will end up lording midfield and the high ball will wreck havoc of the Cork backs.

Bryan Sheehan is a great free-taker and for that there is no doubt, however I think he is a hot and cold type of character and some days he ravages teams scoring free after free and kicking points and goals too, other days he is lethargic and even misses frees however he is motoring well so far this year scoring two goals against Tipperary and an early indication of how the game will go will be how Sheehan performs.

Maurice Fitzgerald, the greatest footballer of his generation and possibly of all time mentored Sheehan and taught him alot of what he knows so he knows his stuff and I expect him to be clinical against the Rebel Army come Sunday.

Kerry have the best forwards in the country and we will outscore Cork as attack is the best form of defence; on paper Cork are a better team but it is not enough and Kerry's experience and wisdom will ring through; old dog for the hard road, puppy for the gutter and all that!

shockframe

Stinicker wrote: »

Cork will be exposed next Sunday as possibly the most over-rated team to win an All-Ireland since Armagh in 2002. All this hype about Cork you'd swear they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. You must remember Kerry ground out a victory last year against Cork and ran them all over the field in the league this year in a match in which a dodgy referee ultimately decided the outcome in Corks favour.

Players to watch out for will be Barry John Keane whose introduction against Cork last year proved vital for the Kingdom; he is a natural and although most likely won't start when he is brought on he will damage Cork badly. Shane Enright, Daniel Bohane and Kieran O'Leary are all newer & under-utilised players and I expect Kerry with home advantage to finish by 4 or 5 ahead, we will concede goals and unless Tomas Mac at'Saoir is put in instead of Kealy this could be our achilles heel.

However Kerry will outscore Cork up front and Corks indisipline will cost them as Bryan Sheehan will punish every single indiscretion, Paul Galvin may not even start simply to avoid another assault from Messrs Cadogan & O'Leary, and more importantly this match is not what we have our eyes trained on, Kerry will want to be there the last week in September and we will need all our players in tip-top shape and not unfairly banned as we have seen time and again by the GAA in their attempts to stop a truely great team.

Kerry will do everything in their power to defeat Cork as losing to them is never taken lightly but this year will not do it to the detriment of the greater cause as last years Pyrrhic victory against them proved which left us underpowered and demoralised when we faced Down, this year it is clear that there is only two countys with any real hope of winning the All-Ireland and they are Cork and Kerry. Tyrone, Down and Dublin have already proven they are without substance, with Dublin going nowhere and both Down and Tyrone being hit & run teams that might emerge good one year but ultimately goes back into their burrow lacking any true consistency and are really what are known as a flash in the pan.

Infact this year gives Kerry a great chance of winning it and Cork are the only team to challenge us, they cannot beat Kerry in Croke Park and Kerry has consistently destroyed them there time and again! What Kerry will be aiming for will be to come away from Sundays game with a good measure of their main opponent and beating them will be all the better, however the main aim will be self preservation, avoiding both suspensions and injury.

My prediction is Kerry and Cork will meet Sunday but for the final time this year and Kerry will win the All-Ireland most likely beating Cork in the final once again. Kerrys record speaks for itself and Cork by comparison have been in the top four consecutively every year since 2005.

Cork have appeared in three All-Ireland finals in the same time period, matter of fact Cork have been knocked out of the Championship each year since 2005 by only team; Kerry with 2010 being the year that they can thank Down for beating Kerry as Cork did not beat Kerry in 2010 and had they met their old nemesis in the knockout stages rather than Down I am quite sure Sam Maguire would reside west of the County bounds.

I am of the opinion that the best way for a team to prove themselves is to beat Kerry in an All-Ireland as we are the standard bearers of the game keeping the sacred torch of pure football burning. Tyrone did this and I salute them, however overall they were still not a better team than Kerry as History will judge as they were lacking the determination and consistency that has fuelled generations of Kerrymen to be the best there is because second best is not good enough. Tyrone were nowhere to be found in 2000,2001,2002,2004,2006,2007 & 2009 when teams like Cork and Kerry were beating paths to Croke Park and All-Ireland Final appearances.

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team, because to me they are second best to Kerry and when they do this they as a team will have matured and come of age and defeated the mental edge numerous superior Kerry teams consecutively have held over them in Croke Park; Remember to be the best you must beat the best at their own game and be consistent and consecutively be able to beat everything before you, then and only then will you know you have arrived at the summit of football.

What ever happened to the cute kerry hoor does anyone know?

and not a single yerra in sight!

Bogsnorkler

shockframe wrote: »

What ever happened to the cute kerry hoor does anyone know?

and not a single yerra in sight!

He's right though, this Cork team isn't fit to lace the Kerry teams boots.

Sher Jesus aren't we lucky to be allowed on the same pitch as some of these amazing footballers! I'll be happy if we keep within ten points by half time

:pac:

Nonoperational

Whatever about Sheehan, Cork don't miss many frees from the 40 in. Very clinical. Aidan Walsh is after coming a long way in the middle of the field since we last met. We'll talk Monday Stinicker.

Uncle Mclovin

With regards to the free kick thing Cooper is a much more accurate free taker than Sheehan. Sheehans kind of a man for the Hollywood free kicks. Dying moments of a county final and he lands one over from 70 yards. Roy of the Rover stuff. He has greatly improved his overall game though..... Anyway Cooper tends to take the majority of Kerrys frees.


I fancy Kerry to beat Cork the next day. Home advantage counts for a lot. I think the whole Kerry have an ageing defence thing is becoming a bit tiresome. I'd say Corks average age of defenders isn't much below that of Kerrys.


On the other hand it's been twelve months since Kerry won a proper championship match. So on that point maybe I'm letting my Kerry blinkers get in the way in not seeing anything but a Kerry victory.

crebel81

shockframe wrote: »

What ever happened to the cute kerry hoor does anyone know?

and not a single yerra in sight!

Funny thing is this is cute...he is trying to cover up the fact that Kerry have huge weaknesses in midfield and defence, and in turn he is trying to scare us rebels

History is history, and thats about it...

gaffer91

Stinicker wrote: »

however I believe Kerry will end up lording midfield and the high ball will wreck havoc of the Cork backs.

I'm not sure about us(kerry) lording midfield.I'd say its more likely to be the other way around unfortunately, with us having to rely on scrappy breaking ball on the most part for primary possession.

Good high ball delivered to Donaghy when he's on form does damage to any team in the country and I agree that Cork should be no different.

Stinicker wrote: »

Bryan Sheehan is a great free-taker and for that there is no doubt, however I think he is a hot and cold type of character and some days he ravages teams scoring free after free and kicking points and goals too, other days he is lethargic and even misses frees however he is motoring well so far this year scoring two goals against Tipperary and an early indication of how the game will go will be how Sheehan performs.

Maurice Fitzgerald, the greatest footballer of his generation and possibly of all time mentored Sheehan and taught him alot of what he knows so he knows his stuff and I expect him to be clinical against the Rebel Army come Sunday.

I do agree that he is motoring well so far but in fairness, how sure can we be when the teams he was playing were minnows like Tipp and Limerick?I really don't fancy his chances at making a big impact in midfield, I never really thought of him as a midfielder.

One thing I have to say about Sheehan though is that he does always seem to play well against Cork.He was fantastic when he came on in the drawn 2009 semi final and was equally brilliant in the first game last year.

Uncle Mclovin wrote: »

With regards to the free kick thing Cooper is a much more accurate free taker than Sheehan. Sheehans kind of a man for the Hollywood free kicks. Dying moments of a county final and he lands one over from 70 yards. Roy of the Rover stuff. He has greatly improved his overall game though..... Anyway Cooper tends to take the majority of Kerrys frees.

Who can forget that free??Awesome stuff.

He has improved his overall game immensely over the last few years but I still wouldn't fancy him in midfield.

slingerz

In fairness Aidan Walsh against Bryan Sheehan in midfield is no contest. Alan O'Connor against Scanlon is similar.

Cork will play Canty on Donaghy, Shields on Gooch, Miskella on Declan O'Sullivan, Noel o'Leary on Galvin, Kissane on Donnacha Walsh and Cadogan on Darren O'Sullivan.

A full back line of Shields, Canty and Cadogan would be the best in the business in fairness.

Id expect Ciaran Sheehan to have a big game and Im going looking up the prices for him to be MOTM right now

TopOfTheRight

Galvin wont be playing, it'll be Donncha Walsh and i'd be surprised if Counihan didnt put Denis O'Sullivan on either him or Darran

Rebel Fan

Ah my favourite time of year! Good summer evenings, everyone's in better form and the blood and bandage playing the aristocrats in Killarney. Boards.ie will be in meltdown over the next few days as fans from both counties slog it out over who'll win, god I love the GAA!!! This match couldn't be better set up, The Munster Champions v The All Ireland Champions, 43000 expected at the game, we're gloating caus we won Sam last year and the other side slagging us "ye won it without baitin us!!!".

So here goes my analysis, Cork are the form team at the moment, National League winners and a strong squad. Conor Counihan has made great strides with the team since taking over, we have the best forward line at the minute since 89 and 90. Midfield we're also very strong with 4 players that would walk onto any inter county team. Defensively we're solid enough, but an extra yard of pace with 1 or 2 wouldn't go amiss, all in all we're in great shape headin to Killarney.

And what of The Kingdom? Some people say they're in decline but that'll never be the case in Kerry. A county that breeds football into kids from the age of 3 or 4 will always be there or thereabouts, 6 All Ireland Finals in the last 7 years speaks for itself, and don't forget thay have the Indian sign over us for the last few years. They will love nothing better than putting us back in our box on Sunday.

However, and I say this with no bias, I am leaning towards us to win on Sunday. We left the last 2 games in Killarney behind us, some will argue contentious ref decisions, players winning easy frees (sin sceal eile!) but the reality is we only have ourselves to blame, very bad wides in both games and missed goal chances cost us dear. When you look at Kerry in defence and midfield you would have to be confident as a Corkman that we have the players to come out on top in those areas. However, the Kerry forwards are lethal when in possession and have the winning of the game, we will have to be marking very tight and hope to break even here. The deciding factor for me though will be the midfield battle, if Kerry are on top we have 2 other midfielders to come on and hopefully change it, if we're on top expect Donaghy to move out. This will weaken the Kerry forward line as Gooch, Sull and co love nothing better than feeding off Star and getting scores.

Rumour has it that Canty will start on Star, leaving Cadogan on the bench. While I like Cadogan I think it's a good thing he's not starting, too much off the ball stuff with him over the last few years. The absence of Tomas and Galvin will be a big loss to Kerry, remember Galvin coming off the bench last time and turning the game singlehandedly, it might happen again on Sunday!!!

My only regret is that I won't be in the sell-out crowd on Sunday, am gutted I can't make it :mad:. Still though, I'll go for us to win by 4 or 5 points and hopefully the pints of Arthur will taste even sweeter at 4.00 on Sunday!!!!

Corcaigh Abu

premierstone

One thing that strikes me from reading this thread and from others in the last 12 months is how absolutely horribly over-rated Aidan Walsh is, its laughable tbh, he has massive potential and has shown glimpse of being very good, but the way some people talk about him you would think he was the second coming, he has only played little over a handfull of championship games, all this hype is a bit premature.

Rebel Fan

premierstone wrote: »

One thing that strikes me from reading this thread and from others in the last 12 months is how absolutely horribly over-rated Aidan Walsh is, its laughable tbh, he has massive potential and has shown glimpse of being very good, but the way some people talk about him you would think he was the second coming, he has only played little over a handfull of championship games, all this hype is a bit premature.

Over-rated????? All Ireland winner, All Star, Young player of the year in his first full championship season. He had 1 bad game last year in Killarney, won plenty of possession but his distribution was atrocious. However, since then he's been phenomenol for us, had fantastic games against Dublin and Down in front of 82000 people, and still only 19. He also wants to make himself available for the senior hurlers in the next couple of years. You can't over rate a player that did that in his first full season, I agree it's too early to say he's one of the greats but at 19 he has the potential to become one. A fantatsic talent, a powerhouse in midfield, any county would have him in both codes. If he played for Kerry in football or tipp in hurling you'd be drooling at him, think you need a reality check here!

premierstone

Rebel Fan wrote: »

Over-rated????? All Ireland winner, All Star, Young player of the year in his first full championship season. He had 1 bad game last year in Killarney, won plenty of possession but his distribution was atrocious. However, since then he's been phenomenol for us, had fantastic games against Dublin and Down in front of 82000 people, and still only 19. He also wants to make himself available for the senior hurlers in the next couple of years. You can't over rate a player that did that in his first full season, I agree it's too early to say he's one of the greats but at 19 he has the potential to become one. A fantatsic talent, a powerhouse in midfield, any county would have him in both codes. If he played for Kerry in football or tipp in hurling you'd be drooling at him, think you need a reality check here!

Clam down and read my post again there Rebel, I never doubted hes potential or hes talent I was talking about people already claiming him to be one of the best players in the country which is laughable, although not quite as laughable as your impliance that he would get anywhere near the current Tipp senior hurling team, I have seen him hurl and he would be lucky to make the Tipp u-21 team, probably would just about make it but would be nowhere near the Tipp seniors but thanks for re-asserting my point about all the hyperbole surrounding the guy.

Rebel Fan

premierstone wrote: »

Clam down and read my post again there Rebel, I never doubted hes potential or hes talent I was talking about people already claiming him to be one of the best players in the country which is laughable, although not quite as laughable as your impliance that he would get anywhere near the current Tipp senior hurling team, I have seen him hurl and he would be lucky to make the Tipp u-21 team, probably would just about make it but would be nowhere near the Tipp seniors but thanks for re-asserting my point about all the hyperbole surrounding the guy.

I read your post twice just to make sure I wasn't seeing things and believe me I'm perfectly calm here, thanks for asking! I think it's very fair to say he's one of the top midfielders in the country, name a few others that are better than him right now??? He was won more medals at Under 21 and senior in his short career than players that have retired. A wee point for you, last year he was involved with no less than 18 different teams (club, divisional, county underage and senior, colleges in both hurling and football) not bad for an over-rated player. As for the your view on the tipp hurlers, well all I'll say is the only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner!

shezmagic

Local reports in Cork claiming Cadogan will miss out and Jamie O'Sullivan will be handed the number two geansai. I presume he will pick up Kieran O'Leary if Kerry go with the Dr. Crokes man in the corner in Galvin's likely absence?

The rest of the Cork team should be fairly predictable. It will be interesting to see if Jack O'Connor springs any surprises although we may have to wait until 1.55pm on Sunday to observe any positional changes.

premierstone

Rebel Fan wrote: »

I read your post twice just to make sure I wasn't seeing things and believe me I'm perfectly calm here, thanks for asking! I think it's very fair to say he's one of the top midfielders in the country, name a few others that are better than him right now??? He was won more medals at Under 21 and senior in his short career than players that have retired. A wee point for you, last year he was involved with no less than 18 different teams (club, divisional, county underage and senior, colleges in both hurling and football) not bad for an over-rated player. As for the your view on the tipp hurlers, well all I'll say is the only thing worse than a bad loser is a bad winner!

Paddy McKeever, John Galvin and Brendan Murphy are certainly better than him at the moment and thats just 3 off the top of my head, yes himself and possibly Shane O Rourke have the potential to join that list and possible even surpass them but not currently.

What has he's medal collection to do with anything, they are team awards and are due to the fact he is from a very successfull dual county.

Yes I am aware he played with 18 teams, I read the same article in the examiner thanks!.

As to your bad winners comment tell me so which of the current Tipp team would he replace??

ciarriaithuaidh

Firstly, Aidan Walsh is not over-rated..he is already a very good player and has the potential to develop into a fantastic player in years to come. I do believe that the cork midfield as a whole may be somewhat over-rated though, Alan O'Connor is a dogged workhorse,but is no great athlete and his kicking is pretty awful IMO. Then again,Kerry don't look like they have much with which to exploit anyone in that department.

Mr Incognito.."Kerry fullback line is soft"..care to justify that argument? Marc O'Sé is the best man marker in the game, Tom O'Sullivan (despite a bad year in 2010) is still a top class corner back and Shane Enright has already shone in an U-21 winning team aswell as in the Sigerson in recent years and was outstanding during the league this year...If there was any weakness in our defence, its in the halfback line,especially with Tom Sé missing.

Rebel Fan

premierstone wrote: »

Paddy McKeever, John Galvin and Brendan Murphy are certainly better than him at the moment and thats just 3 off the top of my head, yes himself and possibly Shane O Rourke have the potential to join that list and possible even surpass them but not currently.

What has he's medal collection to do with anything, they are team awards and are due to the fact he is from a very successfull dual county.

Yes I am aware he played with 18 teams, I read the same article in the examiner thanks!.

As to your bad winners comment tell me so which of the current Tipp team would he replace??

I think you need to calm down a bit mate, he's every bit as good as John Galvin but as for Paddy Mc Keever and Brendan Murphy, are you serious??? I accept your medal collection point being a team game thing but All Star, Young Player of The Year in his first season at senior, hmmm, methinks they are individual awards for outstanding achievement, but what would I know???
I will say again he had 1 bad game last year in Killarney, however after that Counihan turned him into a more defensive midfielder, winning high ball, dirty ball, laying it off to the half back line that attacked in waves while he stayed in midfield and commanded the area. Your original point was that he was so over-rated, what more does a player have to do at 19 to earn the respect of supporters from other counties? I must say you're the first person I've ever heard criticising him. I live in County Down and I can assure you the people up here were raving about him after the final last year, they lamented the fact that Dan Gordon (a neighbour and good friend of mine) wasn't put out to midfield to curb his influence. The media always talk about Cork having 4 midfielders but do you ever see Walsh coming off? It's always Murphy for O Connor or Kavanagh for Murphy. Aidan Walsh was a big reason why we won Sam last year and please God, he'll be around for a long time to come to win many more.
As for him getting on the tipp hurling team, well I suppose he wouldn't have a sniff, in your eyes they are the greatest thing since The Golden Vale. Is this Declan Ryan or Liam Sheedy I'm talking to??????????

Rebel Fan

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Firstly, Aidan Walsh is not over-rated..he is already a very good player and has the potential to develop into a fantastic player in years to come. I do believe that the cork midfield as a whole may be somewhat over-rated though, Alan O'Connor is a dogged workhorse,but is no great athlete and his kicking is pretty awful IMO. Then again,Kerry don't look like they have much with which to exploit anyone in that department.

Mr Incognito.."Kerry fullback line is soft"..care to justify that argument? Marc O'Sé is the best man marker in the game, Tom O'Sullivan (despite a bad year in 2010) is still a top class corner back and Shane Enright has already shone in an U-21 winning team aswell as in the Sigerson in recent years and was outstanding during the league this year...If there was any weakness in our defence, its in the halfback line,especially with Tom Sé missing.

Great to see a Kerryman praising Aidan Walsh, fair play to ya you know talent when you see it. I think the point about the Kerry full back line may be more to do with the improvement in the Cork full forward line. For years we had players that couldn't score, Kerry defenders are very good at grounding down forwards and practically forcing them into submission, however, with the way Goulding, Sheehan and O Connor have been playing it will be an interesting match up and one that could win the game for us, just a thought!

gaffer91

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Mr Incognito.."Kerry fullback line is soft"..care to justify that argument? Marc O'Sé is the best man marker in the game, Tom O'Sullivan (despite a bad year in 2010) is still a top class corner back and Shane Enright has already shone in an U-21 winning team aswell as in the Sigerson in recent years and was outstanding during the league this year...If there was any weakness in our defence, its in the halfback line,especially with Tom Sé missing.

We were taken for 3 goals by Limerick.Marc O Se hasn't been playing anywhere near his best for a while, and isn't really a full back. Tom, like you say, wasn't that good last year, and is getting on a bit at this stage, and Enright, while he has potential, is still a largely untested property at senior inter-county level.

premierstone

Rebel Fan wrote: »

As for him getting on the tipp hurling team, well I suppose he wouldn't have a sniff, in your eyes they are the greatest thing since The Golden Vale. Is this Declan Ryan or Liam Sheedy I'm talking to??????????

Where did I say anything about Tipp been great, guess I know you are wrong when a) you make things up and b) u refuse to answer the question.

So lets try again who would Aidan Walsh replace on the Tipp hurling team?

And as for Allstar quip they are a load of rubbish tbh and have no significance, or did you agree that Cork have no forward worth inclusion?

sugna

Stinicker wrote: »

I agree with everything you both Kerry and Cork's back have their weaknesses and it will be a high scoring game with many goals from both sides, however I believe Kerry will end up lording midfield and the high ball will wreck havoc of the Cork backs.

Bryan Sheehan is a great free-taker and for that there is no doubt, however I think he is a hot and cold type of character and some days he ravages teams scoring free after free and kicking points and goals too, other days he is lethargic and even misses frees however he is motoring well so far this year scoring two goals against Tipperary and an early indication of how the game will go will be how Sheehan performs.

Maurice Fitzgerald, the greatest footballer of his generation and possibly of all time mentored Sheehan and taught him alot of what he knows so he knows his stuff and I expect him to be clinical against the Rebel Army come Sunday.

Kerry have the best forwards in the country and we will outscore Cork as attack is the best form of defence; on paper Cork are a better team but it is not enough and Kerry's experience and wisdom will ring through; old dog for the hard road, puppy for the gutter and all that!

Somehow I don't think kerry will end up lording midfield.

Rebel Fan

premierstone wrote: »

Where did I say anything about Tipp been great, guess I know you are wrong when a) you make things up and b) u refuse to answer the question.

So lets try again who would Aidan Walsh replace on the Tipp hurling team?

And as for Allstar quip they are a load of rubbish tbh and have no significance, or did you agree that Cork have no forward worth inclusion?

Look mate I think we'll just agree to disagree on this one, I never made anything up and believe me, Aidan Walsh has the hurling talent to push for a place on ANY intercounty team,I'm not going to name any tipperary players that I feel he can oust, I'm sure there are many players on the Tipp panel that feel they deserve a place and can't get one. Let me ask you this, has Aidan Walsh done something personal against you, you obviously have no time for the guy at all, that's your right I guess. I wouldn't say the All-Stars are a load of rubbish, I believe the way some players are selected is wrong, the GAA try to include as many players from different counties, causing others to miss out. I was disappointed that Goulding didn't get one last year, I mean the man of the match in The All Ireland Final and our top scorer by a country mile. Then again every county will have arguements for and against the selection of All Stars, it's probably easier in hurling because every year there are realistically 2 or 3 teams to pick from. Football is different, alot more counties with a realistic chance of provincial honours or a good run in the qualifiers. Whilst the All ireland is probably down to 3 or 4 teams the GAA have a wider pool to pick from and obviously alot of people will not be happy about it. But I stand over the fact that I believe Aidan Walsh deserved his all star and young player of the year award, I would also add that he had a great shout for MOTM in the final, Goulding probably edged it because he got 9 points but Walsh lorded midfield for most of the game.

ShamoBuc

sugna wrote: »

Somehow I don't think kerry will end up lording midfield.

About as much chance of that happening as a 0-0 draw!

Rebel Fan

ShamoBuc wrote: »

About as much chance of that happening as a 0-0 draw!

Well Aidan Walsh is over-rated so I guess Kerry have a shout in at least 1 of the midfield positions!:rolleyes:

sugna

Rebel Fan wrote: »

Well Aidan Walsh is over-rated so I guess Kerry have a shout in at least 1 of the midfield positions!:rolleyes:

Aidan Walsh is a great player & he'll only get better.

Orizio

The Cork Senior Football team to play Kerry in the Munster Final on Sunday, July 3rd at 2pm in Killarney will line out as follows:

1. Alan Quirke
Valley Rovers

2. Jamie O'Sullivan 3. Graham Canty 4. Michael Shields
Bishopstown Bantry Blues St. Finbarr's

5. Noel O'Leary 6. John Miskella 7. Paudie Kissane
Cill na Martra Ballincollig Clyda Rovers

8. Alan O'Connor 9. Aidan Walsh
St. Colum's Kanturk

10. Ciarán Sheehan 11. Patrick Kelly 12. Pearse O'Neill
Eire Og Ballincollig Aghada

13. Daniel Goulding 14. Donncha O'Connor 15. Paul Kerrigan
Eire Óg Ballydesmond Nemo Rangers



Captain: Graham Canty

yayamark

1. Brendan Kealy, (Kilcummin)
2.Shane Enright (Tarbert) 3 Marc Ó Sé (An Ghaeltacht) . 4 Tom O'Sullivan (Rathmore)
5. Aidan O'Mahony (Rathmore) 6. Eoin Brosnan (Dr. Crokes) 7. Killian Young (Renard)
8. Anthony Maher (Duagh) 9.Bryan Sheehan (St. Mary's)
10. Darran O'Sullivan (Glenbeigh/Glencar) 11. Declan O'Sullivan (Piarsaigh Na Dromada) 12. Donnchadh Walsh (Cromane),
13. Colm Cooper (Dr. Crokes) Captain 14 Kieran Donaghy (Austin Stacks) 15.Kieran O'Leary (Dr. Crokes)
Subs: Tomás Mac a t'Saoir (An Ghaeltacht) Daniel Bohan (Austin Stacks) Barry John Keane (Kerins O'Rahilly's) Brian Maguire (Listowel Emmett's) Michéal Quirke (Kerins O'Rahilly's) Séamus Scanlon (Currow) Padraig Reidy (Scartaglin) David Geaney (Daingean Uí Chúis)
Niall O'Mahony (Spa) Peter Crowley Laune Rangers and James O'Donoghue (Legion)

Looks much better than the previous post.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ShamoBuc

yayamark wrote: »

Looks much better than the previous post.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

.... even you are laughing at saying something as ridiculous as that;)

Newtown90

Can't wait for the match :D:D

Going to a be a cracking atmosphere..

There's talk going around here in North Kerry do Kerry really want to win, and I think the bomber had some comment about this too?

The day a Kerry team go out to play Cork the reigning All Ireland Champions in Fitzgerald stadium and don't want to win is the day we might aswell not bother paying the €35 for the stand ticket!

Fair does to the Cork lads, I know Aidan Walsh and Ciaran Sheehan through college.. They're big talented footballers and hurlers i must say and will be stars for years to come and they deserve every bit of praise they get...

But looking at that Cork team there is one line I can see that we can target, the full back line... Without Cadogan playing there is no-one to annoy our forwards, Noel O Leary always seems to be quiet when Galvin isn't around and I feel if we feed our inside forward line correctly we have a good chance of doing damage.. If Cooper gets his groove on and Donaghy wins a few balls to feed him then it should be a cracker!

It recent games i have noticed O'Leary going back to the half forward, midfield area winning that dirty ball... And its great to see as you'll win nothing with sexy football, you have to earn your keep and his work rate was excellent in the Limerick game.. I think a few opinions of him have defiantly changed this year.. Mine for one..

Midfield will be a massive challenge alright but Kerry can win dirty ball, Paul will be a loss for that, but I have no doubt our half forward line and half back line will have it drilled into there head about seeing a break straight after a high ball and taking the chance of going for it!...

Pearse O'Neil blows hot and cold at times as does Kerrigan, I'd be more afraid of Pa Kelly, Sheehan and our friend O'Connor from across the border doing damage... And the worrying thought of the 3 goals shipped against Limerick, I have no doubt Cork will get the goal chances so it'll be fun...

I hope it'll be dry... And a cracking atmosphere around the town and at the pitch!..

My heart says Kerry but my head says back the draw at 13/2!

homerjay2005

no galvin the man has been cursed with injuries last 12 months..

huge loss. even bringing him off the bench is huge, if only for 10 mins.

Rebel Fan

Glenviewjf wrote: »

Can't wait for the match :D:D

Going to a be a cracking atmosphere..

There's talk going around here in North Kerry do Kerry really want to win, and I think the bomber had some comment about this too?

The day a Kerry team go out to play Cork the reigning All Ireland Champions in Fitzgerald stadium and don't want to win is the day we might aswell not bother paying the €35 for the stand ticket!

Fair does to the Cork lads, I know Aidan Walsh and Ciaran Sheehan through college.. They're big talented footballers and hurlers i must say and will be stars for years to come and they deserve every bit of praise they get...

But looking at that Cork team there is one line I can see that we can target, the full back line... Without Cadogan playing there is no-one to annoy our forwards, Noel O Leary always seems to be quiet when Galvin isn't around and I feel if we feed our inside forward line correctly we have a good chance of doing damage.. If Cooper gets his groove on and Donaghy wins a few balls to feed him then it should be a cracker!

It recent games i have noticed O'Leary going back to the half forward, midfield area winning that dirty ball... And its great to see as you'll win nothing with sexy football, you have to earn your keep and his work rate was excellent in the Limerick game.. I think a few opinions of him have defiantly changed this year.. Mine for one..

Midfield will be a massive challenge alright but Kerry can win dirty ball, Paul will be a loss for that, but I have no doubt our half forward line and half back line will have it drilled into there head about seeing a break straight after a high ball and taking the chance of going for it!...

Pearse O'Neil blows hot and cold at times as does Kerrigan, I'd be more afraid of Pa Kelly, Sheehan and our friend O'Connor from across the border doing damage... And the worrying thought of the 3 goals shipped against Limerick, I have no doubt Cork will get the goal chances so it'll be fun...

I hope it'll be dry... And a cracking atmosphere around the town and at the pitch!..

My heart says Kerry but my head says back the draw at 13/2!

Great analysis there mate, absolutely gutted I can't make it, hopefully it'll be a game to remember for all the right reasons. Personally I'm delighted Cadogan isn't playing, a very good defender no doubt but against Kerry he always seems to lose control. A good sub to bring on though if things aren't working out. I think people are blowing the 3 goals against Limerick out of proportion, in fairness after 15 minutes the game was more or less over and it was a challenge match atmosphere after that. Kerry's defence know how to keep it tight when it matters, that's the worry for us rebels. I'm very optimistic though that we now have a forward line that can compete with the best, in years gone by we only had Masters and Corkery but now all 6 playing up front are capable of doing damage. Add to that Goulding and O Connor will convert most frees they get so it really sets it up nicely. This game is the talk of the country at the minute, I live in Down and they can't wait for it, predictions are split down the middle up here as well.

Corcaigh Abu

Uncle Mclovin

Rebel Fan wrote: »

Great analysis there mate, absolutely gutted I can't make it, hopefully it'll be a game to remember for all the right reasons. Personally I'm delighted Cadogan isn't playing, a very good defender no doubt but against Kerry he always seems to lose control. A good sub to bring on though if things aren't working out. I think people are blowing the 3 goals against Limerick out of proportion, in fairness after 15 minutes the game was more or less over and it was a challenge match atmosphere after that. Kerry's defence know how to keep it tight when it matters, that's the worry for us rebels. I'm very optimistic though that we now have a forward line that can compete with the best, in years gone by we only had Masters and Corkery but now all 6 playing up front are capable of doing damage. Add to that Goulding and O Connor will convert most frees they get so it really sets it up nicely. This game is the talk of the country at the minute, I live in Down and they can't wait for it, predictions are split down the middle up here as well.

Corcaigh Abu

That's interesting to hear. I always assumed no one gave a crap about the Kerry Cork matches outside of the respective counties.

I know I'd have little interest in an Ulster final for obvious reasons.

Newtown90

Uncle Mclovin wrote: »

That's interesting to hear. I always assumed no one gave a crap about the Kerry Cork matches outside of the respective counties.

I know I'd have little interest in an Ulster final for obvious reasons.

Have friends up the North and a few in Dublin that are eagerly awaiting this match!

My friend has cousins coming down from Donegal for it:P

As you say everyone is probably sick of Kerry and Cork but when it comes to it, the game is usually one of the games of the year and any true GAA fan wouldnt miss it, whether it be on the the radio, tv or at the match!...

homerjay2005

another draw? probably will happen...

ShamoBuc

homerjay2005 wrote: »

another draw? probably will happen...

I do not want another draw - sick shít of them against Kerry! Time we beat them in Killarney, we've played well down there in recent years but either lost out narrowly or came away with a draw and a feeling of having left it behind. Not this year hopefully!

rossie1977

Stinicker wrote: »

When Cork beats Kerry in an All-Ireland final infront of 84,000 people and doesn't bottle it then and only then will I recognise this Cork team as a truely great legendary team

even if that happened i would imagine lots of kerry followers would move the discussion elsewhere like with tyrone, they beat ye in front of 84,000 every time they played ye between 2003 and 2008 but then you had people like spillane and many many kerry fans coming out undermining their achievements by proclaiming "kerry as team of the decade"