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From Android to iPhone

  • 27-06-2011 1:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I've had an iphone in the past, but am currently on my second Android phone and considering getting an iPhone 4.

    Just wondering if anyone has made the transition to iOS recently from Android and how the find the differences?

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    i have no idea what iOS is but i have recently changed from android (galaxy) to the iphone4 and thank god i did. the galaxy was so bloody slow it was ridiculous, kept force closing on everything, at one stage it deleted thousands of messages on me for no apparent reason. i was ready to fire it out the window.

    now i have inner peace :P and a phone that is fast, reliable and does everything the galaxy did and more.

    sorry if you're looking for a more technical response :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    The androids are generally faster cheaper, look nicer and most importantly are not tied down by Apple! Plus they do far more than the iphones in my experience! Very reliable also!

    I'd stick with the Android just find one that suits your needs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭sinkingfish


    I'm currently eying up the HTC Sensation & the iPhone 4. Part of me is being sensible and leaning toward the faster, bigger, better HTC, and the other half is being lured by Apple.

    I am however being soured by the 24month contract meteor iPhone contract. I have an MBP & an iPad2. So it might make sense to consolidate my ecosystems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭RDMH


    I'm currently eying up the HTC Sensation & the iPhone 4. Part of me is being sensible and leaning toward the faster, bigger, better HTC, and the other half is being lured by Apple.

    I am however being soured by the 24month contract meteor iPhone contract. I have an MBP & an iPad2. So it might make sense to consolidate my ecosystems.

    I wouldn't worry about the contract period if you find a phone that you are happy with. It's a tight call between android and apple, really depends what you want to do. You can also jailbreak the iPhone for more flexibility. If going for android I would wait until HTC release a dual core, don't see the point in going for the sensation over a Desire/Desire HD.

    I went from Desire to iPhone 4 as like you I have MBP and iPad, loving iPhone at the moment, that may change but the imminent release of iOS5 should add some shiney new toys to the iPhone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭Tea 1000


    RDMH wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry about the contract period if you find a phone that you are happy with. It's a tight call between android and apple, really depends what you want to do. You can also jailbreak the iPhone for more flexibility. If going for android I would wait until HTC release a dual core, don't see the point in going for the sensation over a Desire/Desire HD.

    I went from Desire to iPhone 4 as like you I have MBP and iPad, loving iPhone at the moment, that may change but the imminent release of iOS5 should add some shiney new toys to the iPhone.
    The Sensation is a dual core.
    OP, you've had an Apple before, you should know as much as anyone else! Nothing's changed since you left Apple-hood.
    I would be waiting for the iPhone 5 if I were going to get locked into a 24month contract though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I'd say get the HTC Sensation or if you're adamant on Apple wait and see if the iPhone 5 has anything interesting to offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭RDMH


    Tea 1000 wrote: »
    The Sensation is a dual core.
    OP, you've had an Apple before, you should know as much as anyone else! Nothing's changed since you left Apple-hood.
    I would be waiting for the iPhone 5 if I were going to get locked into a 24month contract though.

    I stand corrected :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭Jwacqui


    I recently changed from a HTC to iPhone 4 and would never have another phone again! LOVE it!!

    My HTC was slow, kept starting to force close, wouldn't let me delete more than one message at a time without force closing, I only had it since christmas just hated it! Too many menu and options for absolutely nothing! Got my iPhone 2 weeks ago and can't imagine going back! Had to set my old phone up for my dad to use as his broke and it felt like going back in time!! My iPhone is sleeker, faster, easier to use, more stylish! It is literally never out of my hand. Everything is at the tip of my fingers with it!

    I am a total convert now! Same when I bought my macbook, LOVE Apple!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    kingtut wrote: »
    Plus they do far more than the iphones in my experience! Very reliable also!

    enlighten us please :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    enlighten us please :rolleyes:

    ya,androids do waaaaaaaay more,man! :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    *cough* Custom ROMs *cough*


    I'm getting out of enemy territory... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    for joe soap custom roms mean nothing,general apps is where its at,and android aint there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    enlighten us please :rolleyes:
    barryd09 wrote: »
    ya,androids do waaaaaaaay more,man! :rolleyes:

    They do if you know what to do with them (bet you haven't even used one) :rolleyes:

    Like the other poster said custom roms :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    barryd09 wrote: »
    for joe soap custom roms mean nothing,general apps is where its at,and android aint there.
    Eh, explain?

    I haven't seen a single app available on iOS that wasn't either already released on Android or due to be released on Android. In fact, certain apps are released on Android before being released on iOS. To take an example from close to home, the Adverts.ie app was released on Android first and then released on iOS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    barryd09 wrote: »
    for joe soap custom roms mean nothing,general apps is where its at,and android aint there.
    Eh, explain?

    I haven't seen a single app available on iOS that wasn't either already released on Android or due to be released on Android. In fact, certain apps are released on Android before being released on iOS. To take an example from close to home, the Adverts.ie app was released on Android first and then released on iOS.

    Androids apps are rubbish,i know 4 people with android phones who hate the android market and its rubbish apps,infact its one of their only complaints.
    They are all ad ridden & android is rarely first for any app.
    So much so that I know 2 other people whove jumped ship from HTC's and Samsungs because of the poor selection.
    And again,Custom ROM's mean NOTHING to your average user.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    I had the 3GS then 4 then an android and now back to the iPhone 4. Granted I had a ****ty android in comparison, the apps on iOS are just better. 90% of apps on the Market are pure rubbish. Then ya have the whole force closing crap aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    barryd09 wrote: »
    Androids apps are rubbish,i know 4 people with android phones who hate the android market and its rubbish apps,infact its one of their only complaints.
    There are a lot of rubbish apps on the Market but there are also a lot of rubbish apps on the App store as well.
    They are all ad ridden & android is rarely first for any app.
    Ad ridden? Not all of them contain ads and even if they do, all you have to do is install adfree and not a single advertisement will be in sight.
    And again,Custom ROM's mean NOTHING to your average user.
    Who cares about your average user? I don't buy a smartphone to talk and text. I want to use it to its fullest capability and to customise it to the way I want it to be. If that involves replacing my contacts app or flashing an entirely new ROM then so be it. Flashing a phone with a custom ROM isn't exactly difficult to do on most phones. In fact, in some cases it's as simple as downloading an app and restarting your phone.
    guil wrote: »
    I had the 3GS then 4 then an android and now back to the iPhone 4. Granted I had a ****ty android in comparison, the apps on iOS are just better. 90% of apps on the Market are pure rubbish. Then ya have the whole force closing crap aswell
    The whole "force closing crap" comes from you having a "****ty Android". Comparing a €100 or so Android phone to a €600-700 iPhone 4 is completely nonsensical. If you want to compare Android to iOS you have to make a like to like comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    And again,Custom ROM's mean NOTHING to your average user.
    Who cares about your average user? I don't buy a smartphone to talk and text. I want to use it to its fullest capability and to customise it to the way I want it to be. If that involves replacing my contacts app or flashing an entirely new ROM then so be it. Flashing a phone with a custom ROM isn't exactly difficult to do on most phones. In fact, in some cases it's as simple as downloading an app and restarting your phone.
    [/Quote]

    Ahaha,who cares about your average user???
    I would say 75% of ALL smartphone users are your 'average' users.
    And these 'average' users would rather the simple things done correctly over the ability load a new custom phone book! Bahahaha!
    (i cant believe you actually used that as a plus point :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    guil wrote: »
    I had the 3GS then 4 then an android and now back to the iPhone 4. Granted I had a ****ty android in comparison, the apps on iOS are just better. 90% of apps on the Market are pure rubbish. Then ya have the whole force closing crap aswell
    The whole "force closing crap" comes from you having a "****ty Android". Comparing a €100 or so Android phone to a €600-700 iPhone 4 is completely nonsensical. If you want to compare Android to iOS you have to make a like to like comparison.[/Quote]
    What about the user above with the desire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    barryd09 wrote: »
    Ahaha,who cares about your average user???
    I would say 75% of ALL smartphone users are your 'average' users.
    So what? We're talking about which is the better platform overall. Android is the better platform overall as it caters to both the "average" user and the power user at the same time.
    And these 'average' users would rather the simple things done correctly over the ability load a new custom phone book! Bahahaha!
    The simple things work perfectly well on Android. If you bought a €40 Android phone and then tried to compare it to a €700 iPhone then of course the simple things wouldn't work as well as they do on the iPhone. If you buy a top range Android phone that's actually in the same market segment of the iPhone then you can compare them. When you do you will see that Android performs just as well as the iPhone with the added bonus of extra functionality such as Flash.

    A plus point is that if you don't like a stock feature on the phone you can simply change it. Take for example the dialer app. If I wanted to change it all I would have to do is open the Market, search for "dialer" and pick and install a new dialer. That's all there is to it. If I was on iOS I wouldn't even have the option of changing any of the stock apps.

    You seem to be under the impression that ANY customisation on Android has to involve custom ROMs. That's not true. Custom ROMs generally speaking are for lower-level modifications such as overclocking, root access and driver and kernel modifications.
    guil wrote: »
    What about the user above with the desire
    Who? The only user on this thread who I know to have a HTC Desire is myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    post number 2 had a galaxy. Post 5 had a desire and post 9 I think had another htc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    guil wrote: »
    post number 2 had a galaxy. Post 5 had a desire and post 9 I think had another htc
    Well the Galaxy's stock software is rubbish. No doubt about it. It's not Android's fault as much as it is Samsung's poor drivers.

    RDMH didn't buy an iPhone 4 because he disliked his Desire (Or at least it doesn't come across as that) but he bought it as he already owned a MBP and an iPad and wanted to consolidate his systems.

    But this is all besides the point. There is only one phone that runs iOS and it's the Apple iPhone. There are hundreds of phones that run Android. Hence if you want to compare the two platforms fairly you have to compare the best phone from each platform. The Samsung Galaxy S isn't the best Android phone and the HTC Desire no longer holds the title of being the top range Android phone. As long as Apple continues to market it as being the flagship of iOS then we must continue to compare it against the "flagship" of Android.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Wasn't the desire only released a month or 2 before the iPhone 4 so why would you compare the iPhone to the latest top end android


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭eorpach


    i have no idea what iOS is but i have recently changed from android (galaxy) to the iphone4 and thank god i did. the galaxy was so bloody slow it was ridiculous, kept force closing on everything, at one stage it deleted thousands of messages on me for no apparent reason. i was ready to fire it out the window.

    now i have inner peace :P and a phone that is fast, reliable and does everything the galaxy did and more.

    sorry if you're looking for a more technical response :P

    Me too - and couldn't agree with you more! Galaxy S was the most undependable and sluggish phone I've owned in over a decade - iPhone4 is the the best. Slightly annoying that you cannot customise the SMS ringtone on an iPhone4 and that the camera isn't as good as on the Galaxy S. Apart from that though, the iPhone4 is everything that the buggy Android platform isn't!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Atilathehun


    Well the Galaxy's stock software is rubbish. No doubt about it. It's not Android's fault as much as it is Samsung's poor drivers.

    RDMH didn't buy an iPhone 4 because he disliked his Desire (Or at least it doesn't come across as that) but he bought it as he already owned a MBP and an iPad and wanted to consolidate his systems.

    But this is all besides the point. There is only one phone that runs iOS and it's the Apple iPhone. There are hundreds of phones that run Android. Hence if you want to compare the two platforms fairly you have to compare the best phone from each platform. The Samsung Galaxy S isn't the best Android phone and the HTC Desire no longer holds the title of being the top range Android phone. As long as Apple continues to market it as being the flagship of iOS then we must continue to compare it against the "flagship" of Android.

    Right, I'm thick when it comes to phones. I have a HTC desire. Works fine for all I do. Email and phone calls and a bit of text. BUT, battery is crap. Only a lightish user, and struggle to get a day out of it.

    My contract is up, and I was thinking of getting iPhone, in the hope battery would be better.

    Advise me please. Recharging once a day is ok for me. Being careful from 4pm onwards in order to conserve battery is not ok for me.

    I have Desire set on GSM only network. Screen brightness turned down. No stuff runs in background. No automatic synching going on. Switch data on only as and when needed. Switch off immediately till needed again.


    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    eorpach wrote: »
    Me too - and couldn't agree with you more! Galaxy S was the most undependable and sluggish phone I've owned in over a decade - iPhone4 is the the best. Slightly annoying that you cannot customise the SMS ringtone on an iPhone4 and that the camera isn't as good as on the Galaxy S. Apart from that though, the iPhone4 is everything that the buggy Android platform isn't!
    Ya can change the SMS tone
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72976289&postcount=4
    Right, I'm thick when it comes to phones. I have a HTC desire. Works fine for all I do. Email and phone calls and a bit of text. BUT, battery is crap. Only a lightish user, and struggle to get a day out of it.

    My contract is up, and I was thinking of getting iPhone, in the hope battery would be better.

    Advise me please. Recharging once a day is ok for me. Being careful from 4pm onwards in order to conserve battery is not ok for me.

    I have Desire set on GSM only network. Screen brightness turned down. No stuff runs in background. No automatic synching going on. Switch data on only as and when needed. Switch off immediately till needed again.


    Thanks
    I started work at half 2 this morning and haven't charged the phone since. It's at 43% now and I've wifi, 3G, email push etc all turned on and have being browsing here and fb etc and data is on all day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    guil wrote: »
    Wasn't the desire only released a month or 2 before the iPhone 4 so why would you compare the iPhone to the latest top end android
    One simple reason. The iPhone 4 is the flagship of Apple. It's their top end phone and it is essentially the benchmark for iOS. You compare current flagship to current flagship. Not former flagship to current flagship.
    eorpach wrote: »
    Me too - and couldn't agree with you more! Galaxy S was the most undependable and sluggish phone I've owned in over a decade - iPhone4 is the the best. Slightly annoying that you cannot customise the SMS ringtone on an iPhone4 and that the camera isn't as good as on the Galaxy S. Apart from that though, the iPhone4 is everything that the buggy Android platform isn't!
    Android is not buggy. The Samsung Galaxy S is buggy due to Samsung's dire software development. Phones running on AOSP like the Nexus One or those released by HTC are generally speaking perfect from a software standpoint.
    Right, I'm thick when it comes to phones. I have a HTC desire. Works fine for all I do. Email and phone calls and a bit of text. BUT, battery is crap. Only a lightish user, and struggle to get a day out of it.

    My contract is up, and I was thinking of getting iPhone, in the hope battery would be better.

    Advise me please. Recharging once a day is ok for me. Being careful from 4pm onwards in order to conserve battery is not ok for me.

    I have Desire set on GSM only network. Screen brightness turned down. No stuff runs in background. No automatic synching going on. Switch data on only as and when needed. Switch off immediately till needed again.


    Thanks
    The iPhone 4's battery is no better. All smartphones with large screens will last a day at best if they're used heavily throughout the day.

    That said, my Desire can last two days or so with very light use on a full charge on reasonable brightness settings and with WiFi switched on. To manage this I use SetCPU to underclock the phone to 245 MHZ when it's not being used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Ha such a fandroid. Like you said compare like for like. The iPhone 4 is a year old ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Atilathehun


    The iPhone 4's battery is no better. All smartphones with large screens will last a day at best if they're used heavily throughout the day.

    That said, my Desire can last two days or so with very light use on a full charge on reasonable brightness settings and with WiFi switched on. To manage this I use SetCPU to underclock the phone to 245 MHZ when it's not being used.

    How do I do that? Phone is on orignal HTC software, and does not seem to allow me get to a place to reset CPU!!
    Why can't these clowns do it right in the first place, for simple country folk like me:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭vinnycoyne


    guil wrote: »
    Ha such a fandroid.

    Please refrain from name-calling. Attack the post, not the poster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    It always gets so aggressive when these things get discussed.

    I switched last year from an iPhone 3G to a HTC Desire. There were a few things that I could do on the Desire that I couldn't do with my iPhone.

    I don't need iTunes to add music.
    I can watch mkv video without converting it to MP4(95% of my video library).
    I can pick any song on my phone as a ringtone.
    I can use apps like Tasker.
    Widgets.
    FM Radio (On the Desire but not all android phones).
    I now use a custom ROM for even more features but all of the above were available out of the box.

    The only major app that I'm aware that's missing from the android market is viber but that's on it's way and skype and whatsapp do the same anyway.

    If you don't need any of those features then just pick whichever phone you like the look, feel and price of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭tigershould


    there are currently 3 wars going on in the world (and i'm not talking about afganistan or libya :)

    1) hardware wars (htc vs samsung vs iphone)

    2) os wars (andriod vs ios)

    3) app wars (market vs appstore)

    i think we know who wins each area :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭tigershould


    i didnt include windows / nokia

    they're toofar behind at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    guil wrote: »
    Ha such a fandroid. Like you said compare like for like. The iPhone 4 is a year old ffs
    I don't care how old it is. Apple are still selling it for €600ish euro and they are marketing it is as their flagship. The HTC Desire which was the flagship of HTC at the time of the iPhone 4's release now retails for much lower and is now two generations or so old. If Apple want to market the iPhone 4 as their flagship then they have to accept comparison with the current flagship phones of HTC, Samsung et al.
    How do I do that? Phone is on orignal HTC software, and does not seem to allow me get to a place to reset CPU!!
    Why can't these clowns do it right in the first place, for simple country folk like me:mad:
    Download SetCPU from the Market, create a profile for Standby and pull the slider down to 245MHZ Max.
    there are currently 3 wars going on in the world (and i'm not talking about afganistan or libya :)

    1) hardware wars (htc vs samsung vs iphone)

    2) os wars (andriod vs ios)

    3) app wars (market vs appstore)

    i think we know who wins each area :P
    HTC, Android, Market ;)
    i didnt include windows / nokia

    they're toofar behind at the moment
    At the moment yes but I wouldn't discount Windows Phone 7. It looks to be quite a solid contender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Market sucks in Android....compared to Appstore it's like settling for Aldi instead of Harrods..
    I have an iphone which I use out and about and absolutely love it..sure there are some things I'd change like drag and drop, a larger screen but that's about it..
    I piss on widgets...they're nothing but a gimmick and battery hog.
    I've a Motorola Xoom tablet which is a pretty nice piece of kit..except for the crappy tablet software running on it..compared to iOS the touch response is dog slow and poorly optimised. Google still hasn't split the market into phone/tablet apps etc and I've yet to find a decent e-reader I'd compare to ibooks..
    I do like the drag and drop..except for HD mkvs as the Tegra 2 gpu is poor optimised for it and requires a mkv file to be encoded correctly:rolleyes: so much for drag and drop there..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Sc@recrow wrote: »
    Market sucks in Android....compared to Appstore it's like settling for Aldi instead of Harrods..
    Why does it suck? It doesn't make sense to just say "It sucks" and then to make a ridiculous comparison of Aldi to Harrods.
    I piss on widgets...they're nothing but a gimmick and battery hog.
    A gimmick? Can you check your email, texts, weather, calendar and search Google direct from your homescreen on your iPhone? In case you were unaware, a widget only uses processing power when it's been set to perform a task (I.e. refresh weather e.t.c.) or when it's actually in view. Widgets have a negligible impact on battery life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Why does it suck? It doesn't make sense to just say "It sucks" and then to make a ridiculous comparison of Aldi to Harrods.


    A gimmick? Can you check your email, texts, weather, calendar and search Google direct from your homescreen on your iPhone? In case you were unaware, a widget only uses processing power when it's been set to perform a task (I.e. refresh weather e.t.c.) or when it's actually in view. Widgets have a negligible impact on battery life.
    yes its called intelliscreen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    guil wrote: »
    yes its called intelliscreen
    You need to Jailbreak your phone and pay $10 to use Intelliscreen. With Android it comes straight out of the box and it's completely free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    Android is the new Linux.
    Ideal for people to spend all their time tinkering with the phone but not actually using it.
    I had a HTC hero but tired of the tinkering so switched to iphone to get the better apps and consolidate with my ipad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    dloob wrote: »
    Android is the new Linux.
    Ideal for people to spend all their time tinkering with the phone but not actually using it.
    I had a HTC hero but tired of the tinkering so switched to iphone to get the better apps and consolidate with my ipad.
    How so?

    I haven't flashed my Desire for at least six months (Not because I didn't want to, I had to prepare for my Leaving Cert) and i've been using it all throughout without a hitch. Android isn't the "new" Linux. It is Linux on a phone modified to make it user friendly whilst still retaining its charm for hardcore Linux fans. The best of both worlds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭dloob


    How so?

    I haven't flashed my Desire for at least six months (Not because I didn't want to, I had to prepare for my Leaving Cert) and i've been using it all throughout without a hitch. Android isn't the "new" Linux. It is Linux on a phone modified to make it user friendly whilst still retaining its charm for hardcore Linux fans. The best of both worlds.

    It's the new linux in that it's the old linux with all the hardcore charm and the same user unfriendliness as the desktop version.

    Look at the advice to the person with the poor battery life, download an app to control the CPU clock frequency, an app that needs root as well.
    That's not not user friendly. It's fine for someone who understands CPUs and how they throttle up and down but not the mainstream user.
    Push the setCPU settings too far and the phone will become unstable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    dloob wrote: »
    Android is the new Linux.
    Ideal for people to spend all their time tinkering with the phone but not actually using it.

    I had a HTC hero but tired of the tinkering so switched to iphone to get the better apps and consolidate with my ipad.

    I have to disagree with that. The android is just easier to use. No need to jailbreak it and no need to install a load of rubbish software onto your computer, no software updates that make your phone run slower. I have no idea of how to flash new rom on to it. I don't even know what the fúck that means! I know about 6 or 7 people with desires and they're all in the same boat.

    OP, you should be the one on advising people on the pros and cons of each phone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭James G


    dloob wrote: »
    Look at the advice to the person with the poor battery life, download an app to control the CPU clock frequency, an app that needs root as well.
    That's not not user friendly. It's fine for someone who understands CPUs and how they throttle up and down but not the mainstream user.
    Push the setCPU settings too far and the phone will become unstable.

    If you were using some locked down phone, you'd be stuck with a crap battery life and no option to optimise anything to improve it. Actually being able to make these tweaks is what's great about Android, and it is definitely not necessary. This isn't "user unfriendlyness", this is "your phone, you can do what you want with it in so many ways".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    dloob wrote: »
    It's the new linux in that it's the old linux with all the hardcore charm and the same user unfriendliness as the desktop version.
    User unfriendliness? When was the last time you used linux? Ubuntu for example is very user friendly. But that's beyond the point. What's so complicated about Android? If someone didn't already know they would have no idea that Android is a Linux based operating system. iOS itself is based on BSD and is a Unix-like OS. The roots of Android and iOS are one and the same. They are both Unix-like operating systems.
    Look at the advice to the person with the poor battery life, download an app to control the CPU clock frequency, an app that needs root as well.
    That's not not user friendly. It's fine for someone who understands CPUs and how they throttle up and down but not the mainstream user.
    What's so difficult about downloading an app, creating a new profile and dragging a slider to the left?

    But even so that's beyond the point. Most new Android phones (Released by HTC anyway) underclock themselves automatically when in standby. SetCPU is only necessary if you have an older Android phone or if you want to set up multiple profiles. At least in Android you have the ability to control your clock speed. In iOS controlling the clock speed is nigh on impossible.
    Push the setCPU settings too far and the phone will become unstable.
    Impossible. You can't overclock your phone without a custom kernel. Those who actually know how to flash custom kernels know better than to suddenly overvolt/overclock a mobile CPU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Why does it suck? It doesn't make sense to just say "It sucks" and then to make a ridiculous comparison of Aldi to Harrods.


    A gimmick? Can you check your email, texts, weather, calendar and search Google direct from your homescreen on your iPhone? In case you were unaware, a widget only uses processing power when it's been set to perform a task (I.e. refresh weather e.t.c.) or when it's actually in view. Widgets have a negligible impact on battery life.


    if coded correctly...and most of them aren't.
    And yes I can see my email/sms/weather etc from my lockscreen....it's called lockscreen..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    iPhone has different charger from rest of the world = rubbish.

    iPhone can't be used as a simple usb stick for storing files = rubbish (gtfo itunes, gtfo jailbreaking).

    Even my Mum's cheapo htc wildfire can do this stuff.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eh, explain?

    I haven't seen a single app available on iOS that wasn't either already released on Android or due to be released on Android. In fact, certain apps are released on Android before being released on iOS. To take an example from close to home, the Adverts.ie app was released on Android first and then released on iOS.

    Sky mobile tv is not available for android and there is no plans to make it available as far as I know, that's a pretty major app to be unavailable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭Boxfresh


    srsly78 wrote: »
    iPhone can't be used as a simple usb stick for storing files = rubbish (gtfo itunes, gtfo jailbreaking).

    Even my Mum's cheapo htc wildfire can do this stuff.

    Dropbox?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    Sky mobile tv is not available for android and there is no plans to make it available as far as I know, that's a pretty major app to be unavailable.

    I'm with UPC so don't know much about sky but they have said they are working on it and aim to have something around September-time.

    That article seems to imply that they'll have a blackberry app before they hit android.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Sky mobile tv is not available for android and there is no plans to make it available as far as I know, that's a pretty major app to be unavailable.
    There is talk of that particular app being available sometime near September. But even so, Sky Mobile TV is aimed only at the UK/Ireland market which isn't all too huge on the global scale.
    Boxfresh wrote: »
    Dropbox?
    Good luck using Dropbox to transfer a 1GB file.


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