Belgrano vs. River Plate

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This should be a great watch. I heard that its impossible to get tickets for this match and the queue for the tickets in River plate has resulted in heat exhaustion and people being rushed to hospital (the line was that big)

Read up here

A bad dream come true is what River Plate’s fans are feeling as the team coached by Juan José López will play the first leg of the “Promoción” play-offs against B Nacional division team Belgrano in Córdoba province.

River Plate arrived to the current situation after four years of misery both financial and football wise, plus having just finished fourth from bottom in the relegation table.

Rematch will be played on Sunday at River’s El Monumental stadium, when the future of these sides will be decided. In case of a tie on the overall aggregated score, River Plate will remain at Premiere Division, as the powerhouse has what’s been called “sportive advantage” for being a first division side.

River Plate, the globally recognised name with the iconic strip, is the most successful side in Argentine football history with 33 titles, but tonight will be facing its most dramatic and shameful moment of its 110 year of history.

Since the era of professionalism began in 1931, just three clubs have never dropped to the Primera B Nacional division: Independiente, Boca Juniors and River Plate.

Now there is a very real prospect of that list being cut to two.

Due to the complex method of calculating relegation in Argentina - based on a 3-year, points per game ratio – River have known for a while that this season was going to be tough for them, but with a side capable of challenging near the top of the table at the beginning of the Clausura, they lacked fight or passion when faced with the reality of the relegation play-off, and their form disappeared.

It was a double blow for River, whose points total in the 2010-11 campaign had been sufficient to qualify them for the Copa Sudamericana next season, this place was revoked by the Argentine Football Association (AFA) due to their involvement in the relegation playoffs.

Contrary to River Plate’s psychological depression, Belgrano enjoy a positive mindset as they arrived to the playoffs after performing a terrific comeback. When current head-coach Ricardo Zielinski took over, they were 13 points off of the promoción but rocketed to third due to his tightening of a leaky defence. Similarly credited should be playmaker Franco Vásquez and striker César Pereyra, who both attribute their success to their new manager.

Probable Lineups

Belgrano: Juan Carlos Olave; Gastón Turus, Luciano Lollo, Claudio Pérez, Cristin Tavio; César Mansanelli, Guillermo Farré, Ribair Rodríguez, Juan Maldonado; Franco Vázquez, César Pereyra. Coach: Ricardo Zielinski.

River: Juan Pablo Carrizo; Jonatan Maidana, Alexis Ferrero, Adalberto Román, Juan Manuel Díaz; Paulo Ferrari, Matías Almeyda, Carlos Arano; Erik Lamela; Mariano Pavone, Leandro Caruso (or Mauro Díaz). Coach: Juan José López.

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/70849/river-plate-face-belgrano-in-playoffs-first-leg

I dont think its on tv over here but there should be plenty of streams
Ko 1 am Thursday morning

dreamers75

Stupid system tbh could have won the league and been relegated in the same season.

Oat23

It's on C+ Futbol 19E is you have that headshot.

They showed people being carried from the crowd on the news earlier. Mad lines to get tickets. Should be fun to watch tonight.

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Oatesy23 wrote: »

It's on C+ Futbol 19E is you have that headshot.

They showed people being carried from the crowd on the news earlier. Mad lines to get tickets. Should be fun to watch tonight.

Thanks man but as if I have that with that ****e thing I have

Bound to be a feed thou

Pinturicchio

dreamers75 wrote: »

Stupid system tbh could have won the league and been relegated in the same season.

It's designed to stop the big teams from being relegated because of one bad season.

bamboozling

It's mad over here, the whole of Argentina is talking about it, I can guarantee that tonight every man and child will be watching this match tonight. I would love it if Belgrano won.

dreamers75

Pinturicchio wrote: »

It's designed to stop the big teams from being relegated because of one bad season.

Yup


Still a stupid system tho.

the untitled user

dreamers75 wrote: »

Stupid system tbh could have won the league and been relegated in the same season.

Wasn't the system brought in specifically to prevent River Plate being relegated?

bamboozling

the untitled user wrote: »

Wasn't the system brought in specifically to prevent River Plate being relegated?

Yep in 1981. It would be quite ironic that this ruler would be the rule to see them relegated to night.

Paully D

There's a few streams here lads:

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=120895&part=sports

If you have any money in a Bet365 account you'll get a perfect stream on their site.

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And it has started, come on River

eagle eye

Terrible night to have this with Copa Libertadores final on.

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Good match so far, pretty open game

Oat23

Penalty Belgrano for a questionable handball. I'd like to see the replay in slow motion please mr tv people!

1-0 Belgrano!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

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Woah peno to Belgano and its 1-0 and what a peno too

eagle eye

Its such a crazy system to have in any league. Its mad altogether that a draw does River Plate. It just makes no sense.

NoelJ

Is it one or two legs or what?

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NoelJ wrote: »

Is it one or two legs or what?

2 legs

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ah man that was a sexy nutmeg

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wow River are in huge trouble, they dont have the fire power to be scoring goals for fun


And River plate fans have invaded the pitch

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jebus lads it has kicked off

Oat23

:eek:

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Oatesy23 wrote: »

:eek:

match might be abandoned

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ah man I wish I knew what the ref was saying

Oat23

Headshot wrote: »

ah man I wish I knew what the ref was saying

Me too

Looks like it will continue. F*ck me, 2 lunatics in balaclavas coming right up to the River player shouting at him. Lucky his intention wasn't to attack him.

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Oatesy23 wrote: »

Me too

Looks like it will continue. F*ck me, 2 lunatics in balaclavas coming right up to the River player shouting at him. Lucky his intention wasn't to attack him.

Ya man who pushed the River player had me laughing. The cut of him

Washington Irving

Headshot wrote: »

ah man I wish I knew what the ref was saying

Basically, he's saying he wants to continue but only if police secure everyone's safety

Paul Tergat

Its pathetic. Call the game off, find a way to keep them up obv

Oat23

River pushing forward now looking for a goal. C'mon Belgrano

Jelle1880

The diving is fantastic

River couldn't score if their life depended on it (which it very might well).

IvySlayer

Jelle1880 wrote: »

The diving is fantastic

River couldn't score if their life depended on it (which it very might well).

Water surprise.

Oat23

Injury time..go to the corner :pac:

Punched yer man in the stomach :rolleyes:

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You have to go back to the 26th of March to find the last time River have scored 2 or more goals in a match

They are awful in front of goals

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Can someone tell me wtf was with the chicken?

Washington Irving

Full time, 2-0 Belgrano

Headshot wrote: »

Can someone tell me wtf was with the chicken?

Chicken? What chicken?

IvySlayer

Headshot wrote: »

Can someone tell me wtf was with the chicken?

Rival clubs call them Las Galliinas (the chickens)

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IvySlayer wrote: »

Rival clubs call them Las Galliinas (the chickens)

oh right

so the hanging chicken, I get it now

Nuri Sahin

How did Lamela play?

bamboozling

What a fúcking bit of lunacy that was. 69 minutes of a second half, about 10 maniacs from River enter the field trying to tell their players to get their arses in gear and probably trying to get the match called off.

It was funny when the commissioner said to the ref; 'The police will come and we will finish this match.'

bamboozling

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

How did Lamela play?

Not bad but Belgrano closed him down every time he got the ball. The dogs on the street knew that Lamela was River's only hope today..

kraggy

I've been to a match at the River Plate stadium.

Intense atmosphere. Even in a realatively unimportant game.

Still not sure how their league system works though. Can anyone explain it in simple English?

pickarooney

Let's hope RP pull something out of the bag in the return match, if only so we can get a headline like:

Belgrano sunk by rising River.

iregk

What I found bizarre about it is that the hoodies ran on, attacked the players, no security, no guards no army, no nothing! Walk back off the pitch after having their "say" and climbing up that 20-30' fence and back into the crowd. How in the hell was that allowed to happen?

GavRedKing

Just seen some highlights this morning, them south Americans can be so passionate about football and the fans that ended up on the pitch we're scary to see just how easy it was to do so.

Return leg should be interesting to say the very least.

Paully D

I've got to say, I really admire the fans passion.

The English game has died on its arse a long time ago, atmospheres for the most part are gone. Thankfully some countries still have it.

iregk

Paully D wrote: »

I've got to say, I really admire the fans passion.

Yeah. I really miss the days when you could run onto the pitch and when giving a player a kicking was considered fair game. :rolleyes:

I am pie

River's goose is cooked here, they haven't a hope of scroing 2 goals against a team that might be set up to stop them scoring. It's too late in the day for that eejit Lopez to change the team and go on the attack in the 2nd leg. He hasn't a notion. Lamela can't do it alone.

Saw them on argie tv when i was out there in April, after loosing to Godoy they have sank without a trace. I wouldn't be overly surprised if suddenly the rules changes to keep them up. Remember there is an election over there in October. Would be a typically populist move by the govt out there to step in, keep them up and win a shedload of votes !

Paully D

iregk wrote: »

Yeah. I really miss the days when you could run onto the pitch and when giving a player a kicking was considered fair game. :rolleyes:

The players are mercenaries and the majority don't respect or care about the clubs they play for or fans. At least they know they won't get away with not putting the effort in over there.

iregk

Paully D wrote: »

The players are mercenaries and the majority don't respect or care about the clubs they play for or fans. At least they know they won't get away with not putting the effort in over there.

Baffling. So you have no problem with fans running onto a pitch and attacking players. I thought we'd grown up as a society. I guess some haven't.

Jelle1880

Will the return game be shown anywhere in the big pubs in Dublin (Woolshed, Murrays,...) ?

holidaysong

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Will the return game be shown anywhere in the big pubs in Dublin (Woolshed, Murrays,...) ?

I checked the Woolshed website and it doesn't say they'll be showing it. Would love to go to the pub to watch this.

sob1467

When is the return leg on I really want to watch it.