Ming Flanagan

LionelNashe

Just watching the Private members business on
http://asx.heanet.ie/oireachtas/dail_broadband.asx

His name appeared on the screen as Luke 'Ming' Flanagan.
Why the inverted apostrophes, I wonder? Isn't Ming his real name now?

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Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Rae isn't officially part of the Healy-Rae's surname either.

DublinWriter

I think he changed his name by deed-poll to 'Ming the Merciless Flannigan' back in the day. That should be his official name by law.

So what? To my ear it still doesn't sound as ridiculous as Pat 'The Cope' Gallagher.

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bijapos

DublinWriter wrote: »

I think he changed his name by deed-poll to 'Ming the Merciless Flannigan' back in the day. That should be his official name by law.

I don't think he ever did change his name officially, he is usually known as "Ming" is Roscommon, never Ming the Merciless.

A good few years ago Ming was supposed to go to jail on grounds of not paying a fine for possessing cannabis (or something similar). He wanted to go to jail himself to highlight the idiocity of the law. His mother didn't want him going so she got his father to go down to the courts to pay the fine. since then his father is often referred to as Ming the Merciful. This might be where the confusion arises.

Callan57

bijapos wrote: »

I don't think he ever did change his name officially, he is usually known as "Ming" is Roscommon, never Ming the Merciless.

A good few years ago Ming was supposed to go to jail on grounds of not paying a fine for possessing cannabis (or something similar). He wanted to go to jail himself to highlight the idiocity of the law. His mother didn't want him going so she got his father to go down to the courts to pay the fine. since then his father is often referred to as Ming the Merciful. This might be where the confusion arises.

Now that he's on a 'nice little earner' I hope he paid this Dad back

end a eknny

i know us irish like a godd laugh but why elect a joke

whoopdedoo

end a eknny wrote: »

i know us irish like a godd laugh but why elect a joke

he says with a straight face haha /\

as far as I know Luke changed his name by deed poll to gain some much needed publicity when trying to run against Frankeen Fahy in the elections years back, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it to be the truth

beagle001

Ming is no joke,he was an excellent councillor is far better read than many if the elected Td's and will actually commit to his responsibility as an elected representative unlike most if the others.
Any bill that the govt try to slip through in the dead if the night will now be scrutinised by people like Ming.
It's a pity we do not have more people like Ming in the Dail.

reilig

end a eknny wrote: »

i know us irish like a godd laugh but why elect a joke

Yea, I can't understand why the public voted FG into power either. At least those that voted for ming know that he's honest and that he'll fight tooth and nail to keep his election promises.

On a side note, does anyone know if Deputy's Dennis Naughton and Frank Feighan resigned today as they promised to do in their election promises if 24 hour emergency services were removed from Roscommon Hospital? It was an awful act for their leader to pull - to make the announcement that Roscommon will lose the service at the launch of Naughton's new "high rent" office in Athlone yesterday. Must have been a total embarrisment for Naughton who had invited all his croneys from Roscommon to it and then to hear that they were losing services in their local hospital. Talk about taking lambs to the slaughter!!!

Tabnabs

DublinWriter wrote: »

So what? To my ear it still doesn't sound as ridiculous as Pat 'The Cope' Gallagher.

Or Seán Dublin Bay Rockall Loftus :rolleyes:

yessam

beagle001 wrote: »

Ming is no joke,he was an excellent councillor is far better read than many if the elected Td's and will actually commit to his responsibility as an elected representative unlike most if the others.
Any bill that the govt try to slip through in the dead if the night will now be scrutinised by people like Ming.
It's a pity we do not have more people like Ming in the Dail.

Enda Kenny must really have it in for Dennis Naughton since he supported the failed upheavel of Kenny.

If Naughton supports any downgrade of Roscommon Hospital, he should resign as quick as possible and hide his head in shame.

Can Naughton and Feighan resign quickly and get a by-election in place, so we can elect someone who can get something done or prevent something from being done

COYW

beagle001 wrote: »

Ming is no joke,he was an excellent councillor is far better read than many if the elected Td's and will actually commit to his responsibility as an elected representative unlike most if the others.

Politically I am completely opposed to Luke but I must say that I have seen him in action and he is very sincere in what he does. He actually represents the concerns of the people in his local area.

I really dislike the sniggering when he speaks in the Dail and it came from his members of the house on the left when I was present, I must say. It is extremely disrespectful to him as a TD and a person.

beagle001

The sniggering I have not seen that but it would not surprise me in the slightest.
It's the sort of carry on typical of the Dail,unfortunately there is no hope for this country as the Dail is full of elected assholes and the odd decent td is sadly well in the minority.

BlueBaron

bijapos wrote: »

I don't think he ever did change his name officially, he is usually known as "Ming" is Roscommon, never Ming the Merciless.

A good few years ago Ming was supposed to go to jail on grounds of not paying a fine for possessing cannabis (or something similar). He wanted to go to jail himself to highlight the idiocity of the law. His mother didn't want him going so she got his father to go down to the courts to pay the fine. since then his father is often referred to as Ming the Merciful. This might be where the confusion arises.

That story is false, he actually did spend a short time in prison, 9 days out of a 15 day sentence if i remember correctly..Also he has been known as Ming The Merciless from time to time.

matthew8

BlueBaron wrote: »

That story is false, he actually did spend a short time in prison, 9 days out of a 15 day sentence if i remember correctly..Also he has been known as Ming The Merciless from time to time.

Actually his dad did bail him out but then he got into trouble again and went to prison.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Say what you like about sniggering in the Dail, but the House of Commons is worse. Its like watching a pantomime with all the childish shouting and booing that goes on.

coolbeans

end a eknny wrote: »

i know us irish like a godd laugh but why elect a joke

Why is he a joke pray tell? Any time I've seen him orate he's been an erudite, sincere, principled and honest politician with his heart in the right place. We could do with more of this in the Dail in my opinion. Maybe you should think before you type.

Oasis_Dublin

Callan57 wrote: »

Now that he's on a 'nice little earner' I hope he paid this Dad back

A classic Irish reply here!

Oasis_Dublin

reilig wrote: »

Yea, I can't understand why the public voted FG into power either. At least those that voted for ming know that he's honest and that he'll fight tooth and nail to keep his election promises.

At least they know he's honest? How do they know he is honest? He still takes a ridiculous wage like his fellow TDs in the FG party. Nice populist dig at poor Fine Gael though.

blahfckingblah

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

At least they know he's honest? How do they know he is honest? He still takes a ridiculous wage like his fellow TDs in the FG party. Nice populist dig at poor Fine Gael though.

of course you cant have a dig at fg without being populist. its not like they have broken a series of election promises or anything. if this government had more mings we might not be in so much trouble

Oasis_Dublin

blahfckingblah wrote: »

of course you cant have a dig at fg without being populist. its not like they have broken a series of election promises or anything. if this government had more mings we might not be in so much trouble

Absolute load of crap.

Any mindless idiot can say, "Ming sed we shud legalze weed - why dont da blooshurts do dat?" Because Fine Gael have far bigger, more important fish to fry. Their big election promise was to get rid of the most corrupt political party (consistently) in the history of the state, which they did, and to challenge the terms of the bailout, which they are in the process of doing. If FF had not sold our sovereignty away, we would have more freedom in this regard. They also planned to get rid of Celtic Tiger jobs in the civil service, another process which has also begun.

Sticky_Fingers

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

At least they know he's honest? How do they know he is honest? He still takes a ridiculous wage like his fellow TDs in the FG party. Nice populist dig at poor Fine Gael though.

Untrue, he promised to only accept half his Dail wage as a election pledge and as far as I know he has kept his word. He did the same thing when elected mayor and ruffled a few feathers in the county council as a result.

CoalBucket

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Rae isn't officially part of the Healy-Rae's surname either.

Isn't it ?

Learn something new everyday

blahfckingblah

well theres no hiding your political allegiance, luke flanagan is an articulate well spoken politician who knows what he is talking about.

your legalize weed comment is rediculous im not even going to go there.

FG are implementing fianna fails policies, they have backtracked on many of their own.

they spent their first 100 days trying to be seen by the media whilst doing nothing of substance.

and dont get me started on noonans spend spend spend.

Oasis_Dublin

blahfckingblah wrote: »

well theres no hiding your political allegiance, luke flanagan is an articulate well spoken politician who knows what he is talking about.

your legalize weed comment is rediculous im not even going to go there.

FG are implementing fianna fails policies, they have backtracked on many of their own.

they spent their first 100 days trying to be seen by the media whilst doing nothing of substance.

and dont get me started on noonans spend spend spend.

My political allegiance is not to FF, that's all I can say. You would be surprised who got my second, third and fourth preference votes last February.

Powerful rebuttal on my weed comment there. You could be a politician; you write a lot but you don't really say anything.

Articulate and well-spoken? Like 150 odd others (short of 165 because not all TDs are articulate and well spoken), so a really pointless thing to say. As per.

You're right, they should establish entirely new policies, free from the shackles of the EU/IMF bank bailout. Oh no, wait, that's completely impossible. I've a funny feeling I've already discussed this. "If FF had not sold our sovereignty away, we would have more freedom in this regard."

Doing nothing of substance? They promised to attempt to renegotiate the FF/EU/IMF deal. This is extremely important for this country and they have done that.

"Don't get me started on Noonan's spend, spend, spend?" Again, another empty statement. If you have nothing important to say, then don't bother replying. Much obliged.

blahfckingblah

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

My political allegiance is not to FF, that's all I can say. You would be surprised who got my second, third and fourth preference votes last February.

Powerful rebuttal on my weed comment there. You could be a politician; you write a lot but you don't really say anything.

Articulate and well-spoken? Like 150 odd others (short of 165 because not all TDs are articulate and well spoken), so a really pointless thing to say. As per.

You're right, they should establish entirely new policies, free from the shackles of the EU/IMF bank bailout. Oh no, wait, that's completely impossible. I've a funny feeling I've already discussed this. "If FF had not sold our sovereignty away, we would have more freedom in this regard."

Doing nothing of substance? They promised to attempt to renegotiate the FF/EU/IMF deal. This is extremely important for this country and they have done that.

"Don't get me started on Noonan's spend, spend, spend?" Again, another empty statement. If you have nothing important to say, then don't bother replying. Much obliged.

fine il go there, i dont take drugs i dont advocate it either but if he does its his personal choice, its no longer listed as one of his policies on his website even.

promised to renegotiate, ok how did that go?

you'v already discussed this? you made an "empty statement" why dont you tell me what his holiness emda kenny would have done differently in this regard

Oasis_Dublin

blahfckingblah wrote: »

fine il go there, i dont take drugs i dont advocate it either but if he does its his personal choice, its no longer listed as one of his policies on his website even.

promised to renegotiate, ok how did that go?

you'v already discussed this? you made an "empty statement" why dont you tell me what his holiness emda kenny would have done differently in this regard

Politicians can advocate drug use? I'm slightly confused.

They didn't promise succeed, thus they didn't lie to anyone. FF got them into this mess. I'm not sure that I can make it any more easy for you. Tell me which parts you are having difficulty with?

end a eknny

beagle001 wrote: »

Ming is no joke,he was an excellent councillor is far better read than many if the elected Td's and will actually commit to his responsibility as an elected representative unlike most if the others.
Any bill that the govt try to slip through in the dead if the night will now be scrutinised by people like Ming.
It's a pity we do not have more people like Ming in the Dail.

ming was an still is in the lucky position that he could make any pre election promises and keep them because he was never going to be in a position to keep them . top that with some of the ludicrous over the top bull he came out with during election and his pathecially cliched speeches, hes a joke alright. then he gets in a bit of trouble for admiting to smoking weed and backs down on the only actual policy he has by claiming to give it up so that the gardai arent obliged to raid his house and take his stash

karma_

end a eknny wrote: »

ming was an still is in the lucky position that he could make any pre election promises and keep them because he was never going to be in a position to keep them . top that with some of the ludicrous over the top bull he came out with during election and his pathecially cliched speeches, hes a joke alright. then he gets in a bit of trouble for admiting to smoking weed and backs down on the only actual policy he has by claiming to give it up so that the gardai arent obliged to raid his house and take his stash

This post just doesn't make any kind of sense, nor is it based in any kind of reality.