Taker's Opponent For WM28

the groutch

looking at all the potential wrestler's, there's seems to be nobody worthy of being part of them 20-0

the only thing I saw as a possibility is if he ends up in a triple threat with Cena & The Rock.
it would get them about 1.5m buys, The Rock wouldnt mind losing once he gets the publicity to plug his movies, and Cena is so over that defeat to Taker wouldnt effect him.
It could be Taker pinning The Rock so Cena can say he didnt lose, or pinning Taker with the ref knocked out, to say he should have won

rossie1977

i would have said lesnar was the perfect candidate, but he seems to be in a bad way atm health wise

as it stands i suspect we will see taker vs hhh part 2 (or 3 )

Wolfe Tone

I really want Taker vs Sting. Thats my dream match these days. Two proper legends.

Gerard.C

I'd love if it was alberto del rio. Just so he could drive out and interupt undertaker in the build up to Wrestlemania, imagine the undertaker goin on about taking souls and killing people and out comes himself then beepin the horn and he have no intention of gettin in the ring. I'd love it. Imagine how unimpressed Undertaker would be with Ricardo Rodriguez, itd be ****in brilliant

Bounty Hunter

dependant on health, contracts etc idimagine the main rumours again would be that WWE want either Sting or Lesnar vs Taker for 20-0.

imagine the card:

Rock vs Cena
Austin vs CM Punk
Taker vs Sting/Lesnar

$$$$$

I would doubt they would touch Cena/Rock so back ups would probably be the remaining heels who could get a rub just from being in with the deadman even if he goes over them for 20-0.The likes of Del Rio, Sheamus, The Miz, Wade Barett etc currently fill this role.

then the final WWE backup plan if they cant get their man/dont trust their man would be HHH going for 3rd time lucky at mania vs the Phenom.

CMpunked

It has to be punk.

Imagine:
"Punk we want you to reconsider signing with us.."
"No, i dont want to"
"We want you to beat taker at mania next year"
"Where do i sign?"

Of course thats not what happened/will happen.
But If punk doesnt have austin at mania, then a taker match could be pretty good.

Wolfe Tone

BH I'm out of the loop but is Austin not totally done with wrestling?

CMpunked

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

BH I'm out of the loop but is Austin not totally done with wrestling?

He is, but in the run up to TE he said that being in the ring with the rookies gave him the want to do a possible match.
He also said in another interview that if he had to, he would happily go full time for a year or so.

Bounty Hunter

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

BH I'm out of the loop but is Austin not totally done with wrestling?

what CMPunked said plus if you missed this it might make you

now back to Taker...

Dancor

Sting would be great match for Taker. The build up alone to it would be awesome, imagine the mind games going back and forth.

Have Taker enter the Rumble, doing well for a while then the lights go off and come back on with Sting in the ring behind Taker ready to smack his head off with the baseball bat. Crack him one over the head, knock him over the top rope eliminating him, lights go off and Sting is gone. The build up over three months would be great.

Why_So_Serious?

well the match wit sting wont happen, since he signs a yearly contract wit TNA and he didn't sign this years one till after mania and being a big taker fan i'm glad it wont happen.....sting has too be carried in most of his matches these days taker would never be able too do that at this stage of his career.....

as for lesnar please dont let that happen either, he doesn't deserve the right too say he wrestled Taker in his last match

i'm going too say it will be either HHH/Del Rio/Barrett/Punk if he signs a new contract and they cant cant get another match out of austin

JohnMarston

I reckon this will be Takers last WM so they gotta make it a good one

Rjd2

I'd like to see David Otunga end the streak.

GTR63

Rjd2 wrote: »

I'd like to see David Otunga end the streak.

Nah Maven makes more sense.If he isn't able for a long match Sting would be a good option,just a 7/8 minute match.The build up could potentially be the real meat of the story.

Rjd2

GTR63 wrote: »

Nah Maven makes more sense.If he isn't able for a long match Sting would be a good option,just a 7/8 minute match.The build up could potentially be the real meat of the story.

Yes but with those two you won't get the chance to have Miss Otunga come out and interrupt Taker's entrance with er singing.


I could also be persuaded into having the Bella twins end the streak with a switch aroo after Michelle messes up her interference.

Ridley

As a genuine threat, it should be Cena but he's occupied. I guess Punk if his facing Austin couldn't be arranged. Failing that... Jericho?

Or maybe Orton could get another crack.

rossie1977

Why_So_Serious? wrote: »

as for lesnar please dont let that happen either, he doesn't deserve the right too say he wrestled Taker in his last match

wont be takers last match either way, lesnar is biggest draw on ppv this past 2 years so if vince can get him to compete it won't be a matter of who deserves what, it will come down to money

with both lesnar and rock wrestling at mania for the first time in nearly a decade (and bigger names now than when they left) that could beat their mania buyrate record

Wolfe Tone

Why_So_Serious? wrote: »

well the match wit sting wont happen, since he signs a yearly contract wit TNA and he didn't sign this years one till after mania and being a big taker fan i'm glad it wont happen.....sting has too be carried in most of his matches these days taker would never be able too do that at this stage of his career.....

as for lesnar please dont let that happen either, he doesn't deserve the right too say he wrestled Taker in his last match

i'm going too say it will be either HHH/Del Rio/Barrett/Punk if he signs a new contract and they cant cant get another match out of austin

Sting is still a very good wrestler imo. Him and taker could have a very good match. I struggle to think of two bigger stars over the past 3 decades who have never actually wrestled each other, or even been in the ring together. Austin/Hogan maybe.

Insect Overlord

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I struggle to think of two bigger stars over the past 3 decades who have never actually wrestled each other, or even been in the ring together. Austin/Hogan maybe.

Big Daddy and the Big Show? :pac:

Wolfe Tone

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Big Daddy and the Big Show? :pac:

lol Show did fight Haystacks though!

Hercule

The Shockmaster

JP Liz V1

Sheamus

Wolfe Tone

If not Sting then Shelton Benjamins momma

sky88

i know this sounds like a stupid match but first thing that popped into my head when reading this was a fatal 4 way match with hhh kane and hbk his most famous wrestlemania opponents all trying to end the streak would be great way to end it but not going to happen i know

Smoshi

I defo think itll be HHH and Tasker again. or at least i tink dats the reserve plan. if not HHH, then Sting.(if hes not in tna)

-Kenny-

Perry Saturn makes a shocking return at WM 28 and belts Taker over the head with his mop and Taker flies outta the ring, Taker loses via count out.

Why_So_Serious?

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Sting is still a very good wrestler imo. Him and taker could have a very good match. I struggle to think of two bigger stars over the past 3 decades who have never actually wrestled each other, or even been in the ring together. Austin/Hogan maybe.

sting is no where near a good wrestler!!!! is and was way over hyped

Wolfe Tone

Why_So_Serious? wrote: »

sting is no where near a good wrestler!!!! is and was way over hyped

Ah get out of that! He is not as good as he used to be (World Class!) but he could certainly have a brilliant match with taker.

the flananator

Its generally assumed HHH will be The Undertaker's opponent.

And Punk/Austin won't happen. Even if Austin could be persuaded to wrestle another match, such a massive bout would not be wasted on a mid-carder like Punk.

Why_So_Serious?

rossie1977 wrote: »

wont be takers last match either way, lesnar is biggest draw on ppv this past 2 years so if vince can get him to compete it won't be a matter of who deserves what, it will come down to money

with both lesnar and rock wrestling at mania for the first time in nearly a decade (and bigger names now than when they left) that could beat their mania buyrate record

IMO Taker's last full-time WWE match was against Triple H at Mania, I think he's gonna be a part timer from here on just wrestling at Wrestle Mania,

and why did Lesnar draw big??? mainly because people wanted too see him lose, could hardly be because of his MMA ability since he has none

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Ah get out of that! He is not as good as he used to be (World Class!) but he could certainly have a brilliant match with taker.

get out of what?? telling the truth??? He is no where near world class.....he's another Hogan/Flair wont go when the time is right, Sting was meant too retire what 2 or 3 years ago when he faced AJ Styles and lost??? yeah he should have stayed away then.

Him and Taker wouldn't have a good match, Taker's knees are in way too bad a shape and Sting is just a terrible wrestler......I am glad he's under contract too TNA till May or something like that:D

Charisteas

Why_So_Serious? wrote: »

sting is no where near a good wrestler!!!! is and was way over hyped

Undertaker's Wrestlemania opponent doesn't need to be a good wrestler though, it just needs to be a big name. Sting fits the bill perfectly. Even Undertaker Vs Hulk Hogan would still draw massive numbers in 2012, and Hogan can barely walk.

Charisteas

the flananator wrote: »

And Punk/Austin won't happen. Even if Austin could be persuaded to wrestle another match, such a massive bout would not be wasted on a mid-carder like Punk.

I kinda agree with that, but I think once Punk signs his new contract, he will (or at least should be) main eventing on a regular basis. Punk is different class compared to Miz, Truth and Barrett, who have been Cena's most recent feuds.

And if Austin/Punk were to happen at WM28, then they still have 10 months to build up Punk.

I would say book Cena Vs Punk for Summerslam, and then push Punk to the moon from then onwards by having him win the title at SS.

stiffler123

Why_So_Serious? wrote: »

and why did Lesnar draw big??? mainly because people wanted too see him lose, could hardly be because of his MMA ability since he has none

Absolute bull. It's amazing how far Lesnar has come in such a short space of time in mma. He has great wrestling, phenomenal cardio and he showed how good his chin was against Shane Carwin. If he works more on his boxing, he will be tough to beat. You don't become champion by having no ability.

jaykhunter

Let it go. If someone doesn't want to believe/accept that a NCAA Division 1 champion, who won the UFC Heavyweight championship after FOUR professional MMA bouts "has no ability", just move on.

Back on topic; WM27 was the time and place for Sting vs Taker. But it'd still be a huge draw; I believe 20-0 should be with Cena @ WM30. That said; if Taker can get healthy taking off the rest of the year; i wouldn't begrudge him going up to 25-0. It'd be an honour to face taker at that stage, as it is now.

the groutch

jaykhunter wrote: »

Let it go. If someone doesn't want to believe/accept that a NCAA Division 1 champion, who won the UFC Heavyweight championship after FOUR professional MMA bouts "has no ability", just move on.

Back on topic; WM27 was the time and place for Sting vs Taker. But it'd still be a huge draw; I believe 20-0 should be with Cena @ WM30. That said; if Taker can get healthy taking off the rest of the year; i wouldn't begrudge him going up to 25-0. It'd be an honour to face taker at that stage, as it is now.

Taker will do well to make it through this year let alone to WM30, or another 5 Manias. that's why he changed his finisher from the Chokeslam/Last Ride/Tombstone to submissions, to protect his body just to make it to 20-0.
After that he'll definitely retire, he doesnt want to end up like Hogan, barely able to walk.

parker kent

the flananator wrote: »

And Punk/Austin won't happen. Even if Austin could be persuaded to wrestle another match, such a massive bout would not be wasted on a mid-carder like Punk.

CM Punk has been a main event heel for about 18 months. He is the perfect person to wrestle Austin.

rossie1977

Charisteas wrote: »

Undertaker's Wrestlemania opponent doesn't need to be a good wrestler though, it just needs to be a big name. Sting fits the bill perfectly. Even Undertaker Vs Hulk Hogan would still draw massive numbers in 2012, and Hogan can barely walk.

i think we are so used of motys involving taker last 5 or so manias that we often forget he wrestled mark henry at 22, kane at 20, big show and albert at 19, bossman at 15

GTR63

rossie1977 wrote: »

i think we are so used of motys involving taker last 5 or so manias that we often forget he wrestled mark henry at 22, kane at 20, big show and albert at 19, bossman at 15

Not to mention the dire ones he had with the likes of Bundy & Giant Gonzalez.If Taker isn't able to go by next year they shouldn't ask him to have another match so phisical that it puts him on the shelf with another surgery.

Charisteas

GTR63 wrote: »

Not to mention the dire ones he had with the likes of Bundy & Giant Gonzalez.If Taker isn't able to go by next year they shouldn't ask him to have another match so phisical that it puts him on the shelf with another surgery.

I think there's no doubt about it, Taker will wrestle at WrestleMania next year, even if he can barely move or has just left the surgery room.

Vince is a business man, part of his business is selling merchandise, and a nice round number 20-0 sure looks better than 19-0 on the cover of a DVD, t-shirt and magazine.

GTR63

Charisteas wrote: »

I think there's no doubt about it, Taker will wrestle at WrestleMania next year, even if he can barely move or has just left the surgery room.

Vince is a business man, part of his business is selling merchandise, and a nice round number 20-0 sure looks better than 19-0 on the cover of a DVD, t-shirt and magazine.

Oh I wasn't questioning his participation I was thinking if he was to beat Sting in a short match rather than having a hard hitting 30+ minute matches he's been having at mania the last few years.

jaykhunter

Do you think The Streak will ever be not the big draw at Mania again?

Charisteas

GTR63 wrote: »

Oh I wasn't questioning his participation I was thinking if he was to beat Sting in a short match rather than having a hard hitting 30+ minute matches he's been having at mania the last few years.

Yeah that's true, any match he has at WrestleMania from now on is going to be a spot-fest, with a high spot followed by 2-3 minutes on his back recovering. (Leave out the Michelle McCool jokes!).

Which is another reason why Sting would be the perfect opponent as he could easily work a match of this calibre and not have to adjust his style and slow himself down.

SlickRic

jaykhunter wrote: »

Do you think The Streak will ever be not the big draw at Mania again?

have we proof to say it is the draw?

WWE make it the centrepiece, but it's not why i would buy WM.

i wouldn't have bought last year for HHH possibly ending the streak, or even the match itself, it was down to The Rock.

The Streak only meant something to me when HBK was going up against it. i can honestly say i've had no interest in it in any of these years where WWE has tried to make it the centrepiece and a huge deal.

but maybe it's just me, and it is a draw.

and maybe it's because the thing is a waste of time, because let's be honest he ain't dropping the Streak, which means the whole thing, IMO, has been a waste of time, and you're only getting half the mileage out of it.

if it has been a draw, great, Vince has made money on it, but why not make even more money in the future and have someone beat the Streak and send them into the stratosphere? Orton should've been that person years ago, but thankfully it didn't stunt him.

right now, it should be Punk. all day long, it should be Punk.

and until that happens i have no interest in the Streak....unless the other alternative happens, and Cena goes against it one day. that would maybe peak my interest, purely from a 'watching Internet explode' perspective.

Wolfe Tone

The streak is a draw for me, but maybe I'm a rarity in that I like to pretend its real and try to avoid all the backstage things. I enjoy it more that way.


/cue ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT vid.

krudler

Cena, just to watch the internet collapse on itself

mixed up

It doesn't matter to me who taker fights at wm i would never buy it it's a joke.I meant to believe taker can't be beat when he has been beat so many times before just not at wm?I cant believe people care about a man that can hardly walk.

jaykhunter

SlickRic wrote: »

have we proof to say it is the draw?

Last year is definitely an exception (the majority bought it mainly to see The Rock) but in general over the last few years; with the world titles (plural :mad:) being severely devalued, the streak is by far the most important thing at mania.

Granted it only started being a big draw 07-08.

parker kent

SlickRic wrote: »

if it has been a draw, great, Vince has made money on it, but why not make even more money in the future and have someone beat the Streak and send them into the stratosphere? Orton should've been that person years ago, but thankfully it didn't stunt him.

The streak wasn't really pushed at that stage, it would have been a big boost for Orton obviously, but it was the next few years where the streak became a major angle.

right now, it should be Punk. all day long, it should be Punk.

If he ever loses, it should be Punk. Absolutely.

the flananator

parker kent wrote: »

CM Punk has been a main event heel for about 18 months. He is the perfect person to wrestle Austin.

No he isn't. He's had his ass handed to him consistently and decisively by the likes or Orton etc, how could he possibly be taken seriously as a threat to the biggest superstar of all time?

parker kent

the flananator wrote: »

No he isn't. He's had his ass handed to him consistently and decisively by the likes or Orton etc, how could he possibly be taken seriously as a threat to the biggest superstar of all time?

Heels always lose to faces. All you need to do is a few months building him up.

They did that anyway with Punk in the build up to his match with Cena at MITB.

Who exactly has been clearly ahead of his as a main event heel? He has feuded with Orton, Cena and Mysterio in the last 18 months (i.e the 3 biggest faces in the WWE). He is a 3 time WHC. Only The Miz would rival him for any hypothetical match with Austin.

the flananator

parker kent wrote: »

Heels always lose to faces. All you need to do is a few months building him up.

They did that anyway with Punk in the build up to his match with Cena at MITB.

Who exactly has been clearly ahead of his as a main event heel? He has feuded with Orton, Cena and Mysterio in the last 18 months (i.e the 3 biggest faces in the WWE). He is a 3 time WHC. Only The Miz would rival him for any hypothetical match with Austin.

Heels don't always lose. They may cheat to win, but they still need to win to be kept looking strong. Punk hasn't even been doing that in his big matches. WWE have never treated or presented him as one of their top guys, all his World title reigns were transitory. He's never been 'The Man'.

The Miz would be a better choice alright, but I also doubt he'd get the nod, nor should he. HHH would be a great, 'Mania worthy opponent. A match with Cena would be huge, if Cena wasn't already engaged. Orton would be worthy, and would make sense in a terms of passing the torch. But I think if Austin does decide to come back for one match at 'Mania, then the only real choice is The Undertaker. It would a truly poetic swansong for both men.