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Off License Closing time

  • 19-06-2011 9:01pm
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    This is a ****ing ridiculous thing which is bad for the economy and pocket. Why should off licenses have to close and stop selling alcohol if pubs and night clubs are still allowed to sell alcohol til certain hours?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    This is a ****ing ridiculous thing which is bad for the economy and pocket. Why should off licenses have to close and stop selling alcohol if pubs and night clubs are still allowed to sell alcohol til certain hours?

    Because it was the easy way out for a govt. to throw a sop to the Joe Duffy brigade and help the publicans prop up their wildly expensive house of cards for another few years.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Posted at 22:01. lol.
    Hard luck buddy. I'll pour one on the kerb for ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    The publican party were in power and they could introduce whatever they liked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Yes it's pure bollocks. They treat us like ****ing children and we put up with it.

    I have an emergencey supplier in a local pub who will sell me cans until pub closing time.

    Comes in very handy if I forget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    It drives me mad, its essentially a law which punishes people on shift, and those that don't plan ahead


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes it's pure bollocks. They treat us like ****ing children and we put up with it.

    I have an emergencey supplier in a local pub who will sell me cans until pub closing time.

    Comes in very handy if I forget.

    This isn't a pub in Dublin is it?
    Posted at 22:01. lol.
    Hard luck buddy. I'll pour one on the kerb for ya.

    Gent.

    sure I'm not going out anyway, but I thought, imagine if I were to, what difference does it make were I 20 or 70 when it comes to drinking, if underage drinkers generally buy their drink by 8 and drink til 12, the logic behind getting people to stop selling to underage past a certain time is stupid, sell to people with ID or not, people who have money to buy drink and have ID can still get drink from offo's ore from nightclubs, the rule is redundant, if people want to spend time with friends at home for a session, then everything has to be got by a certain time, does anyone know how this could be stopped, I mean, were enough people to sign a petition or something along those lines, could anything be done, Ireland is the drinking capital of the world! By having limitations on ourselves we're potentially losing money from tourists and the likes (I'm clutching at straws I know) but in doing things like extending closing times surely it'd be beneficial. I dunno'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    This isn't a pub in Dublin is it?

    I'm afraid not. Cork City.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    Stupid closing time used to always catch me out. People used to decide to have drinks at around half 10, 11. Now i plan ahead, generally always have a bottle or 2 of something lying around.



    Im not an alcoholic btw....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    This isn't a pub in Dublin is it?



    Gent.

    sure I'm not going out anyway, but I thought, imagine if I were to, what difference does it make were I 20 or 70 when it comes to drinking, if underage drinkers generally buy their drink by 8 and drink til 12, the logic behind getting people to stop selling to underage past a certain time is stupid, sell to people with ID or not, people who have money to buy drink and have ID can still get drink from offo's ore from nightclubs, the rule is redundant, if people want to spend time with friends at home for a session, then everything has to be got by a certain time, does anyone know how this could be stopped, I mean, were enough people to sign a petition or something along those lines, could anything be done, Ireland is the drinking capital of the world! By having limitations on ourselves we're potentially losing money from tourists and the likes (I'm clutching at straws I know) but in doing things like extending closing times surely it'd be beneficial. I dunno'

    tl;dr

    1 more post and you're on 666.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Posted at 22:01. lol.
    Hard luck buddy. I'll pour one on the kerb for ya.

    Seriously, dr., are you on coke or what? Nobody in the real world is that sharp. I doff my (figurative) hat to you!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    the logic behind getting people to stop selling to underage past a certain time is stupid, sell to people with ID or not, people who have money to buy drink and have ID can still get drink from offo's ore from nightclubs, the rule is redundant,

    I think the very reason why that retarded rule was brought in was to nudge people into the pub.

    Watch out for the pints-being-pulled ads at 10pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,593 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Seriously, dr., are you on coke or what? Nobody in the real world is that sharp. I doff my (figurative) hat to you!

    Bastard. You and your nicely ironed clothes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    I say, why don't you just skip down to the cellar of your house & get yourself a littl' bottl' o' plonky?

    There, there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    A lot of people on AH seem to have a bit of a problem when it comes to differentiating a minor inconvenience with tyrannical persecution ?
    tommyhaas wrote: »
    its essentially a law which punishes people....that don't plan ahead

    And this is a bad thing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    A lot of people on AH seem to have a bit of a problem when it comes to differentiating a minor inconvenience with tyrannical persecution ?



    And this is a bad thing ?

    I'm a responsible adult. I'd like to be able to buy some alcohol when it suits me. I'd really rather not be told when I can and can't buy it.

    Quite often when you're heading out to a party it's after 10pm. Unless you've thought ahead you can't just pop into a shop and buy something for the event. This is seriously inconvenient for a very occasional drinker such as myself. I wouldn't reguarly buy beer or wine.

    I honestly believe that placing such restrictions on folk actually makes the binge drinking worse. By having alcohol freely available whenever people want it would I believe soon start to loose some of it's shine. In comparison to mainland Europe our attitude towards alcohol is quite immature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Stupid closing time used to always catch me out. People used to decide to have drinks at around half 10, 11. Now i plan ahead, generally always have a bottle or 2 of something lying around.



    Im not an alcoholic btw....

    'Course you're not, if you were there wouldn't be any drink left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    Is that "dial a can" crowd still operating in Dublin they saved me a few times! My local Taxi driver is now my 24hr off licence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Quite often when you're heading out to a party it's after 10am.

    Wow you must be some party hard mofo. Much Respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    This thread has popped up alot on here.

    But my view still stays the same. I am an adult. If I want to buy alcohol at 11pm its my choice. Up until they changed the hours it was 11.30pm sun - thurs and 12am close on fri - sat. I didnt hear anyone complaining that "oh they should stay open till 2am!" - no because people were fine with this. And their closing hours matched that of a local pub. It was a good law and no-one moaned.

    Why do you think people moan now?
    Because its a stupid childish law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    It drives me mad, its essentially a law which punishes people on shift, and those that don't plan ahead
    Stupid closing time used to always catch me out. People used to decide to have drinks at around half 10, 11. Now i plan ahead, generally always have a bottle or 2 of something lying around.

    Problem solved boys and girls, plan ahead :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭DanTheMan91


    Never really bothered me, the pub I drink in does "take-aways", so I have no problem with the off licence closing at 10.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Has the fact that pubs close on good friday and christmas day been mentioned yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    In comparison to mainlan Europe our attitude towards alcohol is quite immature.

    I agree, but I don't see what offie closing times has to do with the countries drink problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Has the fact that pubs close on good friday and christmas day been mentioned yet?

    Not yet, but you did :pac:
    Closing on christmas. Fair enough.
    Closing on Good Friday = not changing with the times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Has the fact that pubs close on good friday and christmas day been mentioned yet?

    :eek::eek:WHAT???....When is this happening????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Chris Hansen


    This is a ****ing ridiculous thing which is bad for the economy and pocket. Why should off licenses have to close and stop selling alcohol if pubs and night clubs are still allowed to sell alcohol til certain hours?

    Because the cost to society of drunken idiot hooligans is high enough as it is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Because the cost to society of drunken idiot hooligans is high enough as it is

    Picard, I need you...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I agree, but I don't see what offie closing times has to do with the countries drink problem

    I agree...
    Yes it's pure bollocks. They treat us like ****ing children and we put up with it.

    I have an emergencey supplier in a local pub who will sell me cans until pub closing time.

    Comes in very handy if I forget.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    It's not like the pubs would even gain more business from it? If you're planning to stay in are you really gona change your mind last minute and head out.

    Topic always crops up, I think most people agree it is a ridiculous law, same thing I said before........being forced to 'plan ahead' just makes us more alcohol obsessed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Nanny state tbh. If I wish to down a bottle of drain cleaner, who will stop me? These "laws" are only applicable if the fringe cases can be covered. I am convinced the people making these laws implement them as a form of social coercion. Obey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Also, why can't you buy before 10:30am? Most alcos aren't up before noon anyway, it just annoys people who do their shopping before work. And it's 12:30 on a Sunday, presumably to stop people turning up at Mass hammered. (What would a priest do if there was no wine in the sacristy?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Also, why can't you buy before 10:30am? Most alcos aren't up before noon anyway, it just annoys people who do their shopping before work. And it's 12:30 on a Sunday, presumably to stop people turning up at Mass hammered. (What would a priest do if there was no wine in the sacristy?)
    Have you ever drank alter wine? Piss would be an adequate substitute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    The alcohol laws in Ireland are ridiculous. The one that annoys me most is not being able to have a beer while in the cinema. Glad I can get a beer here whenever I want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    jester77 wrote: »
    The alcohol laws in Ireland are ridiculous. The one that annoys me most is not being able to have a beer while in the cinema. Glad I can get a beer here whenever I want.

    Yeah it's nice the way you can get cold beers in the petrol station and all sorts of places at all sorts of hours in Germany*.







    *If that's where you're on about.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    jester77 wrote: »
    The alcohol laws in Ireland are ridiculous. The one that annoys me most is not being able to have a beer while in the cinema. Glad I can get a beer here whenever I want.

    You can. Just go to the right cinema.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    For people working shift or late hours, this law is very annoying. :mad:

    We don't all work 9-5. But why would the government worry, they don't work late shifts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭bayern282


    You can ( if you want ) drink around the clock in Brussels, I like the Continentals take it or leave it attitude to alcohol, if we had longer opening hours and less of a '' get it down you '' drinking culture, I'm sure a far more mature attitude towards drinking would eventually surface,

    The veneration of being pissed in Ireland and the UK is much ado about nothing.Think our Continentals cousins realise this and we don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    bayern282 wrote: »
    You can ( if you want ) drink around the clock in Brussels, I like the Continentals take it or leave it attitude to alcohol, if we had longer opening hours and less of a '' get it down you '' drinking culture, I'm sure a far more mature attitude towards drinking would eventually surface.
    Assuming there exists a cause/effect relationship between a widespread irresponsible attitude to alcohol consumption and the legal restrictions on opening hours which way around is it most likely to be ?
    I'm a responsible adult. I'd like to be able to buy some alcohol when it suits me. I'd really rather not be told when I can and can't buy it...

    Substitute the word "Cannabis" (or whateveryerhavinyerself) for "Alcohol" above and tell me what are the hours when one can legally purchace it ?

    The restrictions on purchacing alcohol might be an inconvenience -even a downright nuisance but lets get a little perspective here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I think that the off licence opening times should be left up to the off licence operators. I'd say most would elect to close at around 11 or 12 pm anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Closing times in general are a load of nonsense. Seems a bit of a joke that you can order a drink one minute and the next minute you can't.

    Think about it, you could walk into an off-licence and buy eleven bottles of vodka but if it's past 11.30 on a weeknight you aren't entitled to buy a glass of beer in a pub.`A complete nanny state.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    right now i could go to a pub near me and get cans if i wanted to. its handy working in the trade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    It's disgraceful that you can't buy drink before 12:00 in the day ffs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    It's disgraceful that you can't buy drink before 12:00 in the day ffs.

    only on a sunday. pubs and off sales open at half ten mon - sat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    It's disgraceful that you can't buy drink before 12:00 in the day ffs.

    You can't?

    I remember going to the pub in the morning when I was doing shift work.

    Wierd walking around town sloshed and everyone being all busy and shit.

    It's felt as if nobody could see you (that's what I told the judge anyway). :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,542 ✭✭✭Captain Darling


    In a lot of European Countries you can buy beer in vending machines 24/7. If that was the case here you'd have to build a smoking area beside the feckin machine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    This is a ****ing ridiculous thing which is bad for the economy and pocket. Why should off licenses have to close and stop selling alcohol if pubs and night clubs are still allowed to sell alcohol til certain hours?

    It's a ridiculous law partially caused by vested interests and partially caused by the fact that a significant proportion of Irish people have a ridiculous attitude to alcohol.

    Ideally pubs and offies could be open until 6am and no-one would get so polluted that they puke, shout, row, fight or damage property.

    But for some inexplicable reason getting ridiculously ****-faced is seen as "cool", so we're all punished as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    It's a ridiculous law partially caused by vested interests and partially caused by the fact that a significant proportion of Irish people have a ridiculous attitude to alcohol.

    Ideally pubs and offies could be open until 6am and no-one would get so polluted that they puke, shout, row, fight or damage property.

    But for some inexplicable reason getting ridiculously ****-faced is seen as "cool", so we're all punished as a result.

    Ah but do you reckon people in Ireland would get as drunk if there were 24 hour drinking?

    I hontestly dont think we would I know when im drinking at home ill see the clock hitting 1 a.m and be like oh **** better get the drinks in and be swamping them in before the bar closes.

    Were as whenever ive been in foreign countrys never seem to get as drunk because ill drink at a slow steady pace until i feel tired and want to go home just my theory on it anyway and what ive found to be true with myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Sprouts


    If you were a politician who owned some pubs and saw people were grabbing a few beers to take home instead of paying you a fiver a pint, you would have bring in a law to ban this disgraceful carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    You can't?

    I remember going to the pub in the morning when I was doing shift work.

    Wierd walking around town sloshed and everyone being all busy and shit.

    It's felt as if nobody could see you (that's what I told the judge anyway). :pac:

    Well I actually mean the off license.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 94 ✭✭Phenomenally Phrank


    Because it was the easy way out for a govt. to throw a sop to the Joe Duffy brigade and help the publicans prop up their wildly expensive house of cards for another few years.

    Nail on the head, mate. I'd thank you but iu'm new here and they won't let me yet.


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